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wasss Mar 13th 2017 5:44 pm

Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 
I am moving to Canada just over a month's time and curious to know what things are cheaper in the UK and Canada?

I've read clothes and over the counter drugs like ibuprofen are cheaper in the UK, anything else?

dbd33 Mar 13th 2017 5:51 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by wasss (Post 12203710)
I am moving to Canada just over a month's time and curious to know what things are cheaper in the UK and Canada?

I've read clothes and over the counter drugs like ibuprofen are cheaper in the UK, anything else?

Cheese. Beer. Wine.

wheatsheaf Mar 13th 2017 5:53 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 
books....novels, literature, magazines, text books.

Kentonmag Mar 13th 2017 6:14 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 
I just got back yesterday from a 3 week holiday in the UK and would say you are going to find very little cheaper in Canada than it is in the UK. Alcohol, food (especially deli foods), restaurant food, including tips and taxes, are much more expensive. Clothes are probably on a par and maybe electrical appliances are similar or cheaper in Canada. The big downside for you at the moment is the current exchange rate with the UK pound to Canadian dollar. A historical average around 2 to 1 exchange would give the UK pound a 20% better conversion rate to analyze the same question.

Danny B Mar 13th 2017 6:26 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 
Fags and booze. Almost everything else is cheaper, or the same here in Canada when you convert back to pounds.

Howefamily Mar 13th 2017 6:30 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 
Expensiver here (unless on sale and sometimes even when they are on sale):
milk
lamb
alcohol
furniture
english cucumbers


Cheaper here:
Houses
Gas
Childcare

cheeky_monkey Mar 13th 2017 6:44 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 
Decent clothes are definitely cheaper in the UK..petrol is cheaper here..N.American cars are cheaper eg Fords..European cars are more expensive like Audi or BMW..electronics are a little bit cheaper..food is about the same ...mobile phones are more expensive as are plans..tv/internet is more expensive but not by much..All is for my location it varies from Province to Province.

All in all i find for cost its about the same overall..but wages are higher so for me that is the gain.

Howefamily Mar 13th 2017 6:52 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 
How could I forget :huh:
More expensive:
cellphone plans
internet
Sat/cable TV
cheese

dbd33 Mar 13th 2017 6:54 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Howefamily (Post 12203772)
How could I forget :huh:
More expensive:
cellphone plans
internet
Sat/cable TV
cheese

Car insurance is very much more expensive here and I question the claim that houses are cheaper. Houses in Vancouver or Toronto are more expensive than houses in most of the UK (not London, of course).

R I C H Mar 13th 2017 6:59 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey (Post 12203766)
European cars are more expensive like Audi or BMW..

At $1.64 to the pound, BMW prices here in Canada are actually slightly cheaper in many instances than UK equivalent models. Of course a better exchange rate may swing prices the other way, but a couple of thousand difference +/- is hardly a deal breaker if you've a $40k budget to spend on a new car.

Howefamily Mar 13th 2017 7:05 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by R I C H (Post 12203778)
At $1.64 to the pound, BMW prices here in Canada are actually slightly cheaper in many instances than UK equivalent models. Of course a better exchange rate may swing prices the other way, but a couple of thousand difference +/- is hardly a deal breaker if you've a $40k budget to spend on a new car.

And can afford to service and fix them as needed.

Howefamily Mar 13th 2017 7:07 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12203775)
Car insurance is very much more expensive here and I question the claim that houses are cheaper. Houses in Vancouver or Toronto are more expensive than houses in most of the UK (not London, of course).

They are in NS. We are 40 mins outside of Halifax on 1/4 of an acre lot in a 5 bedroom house of over 2500 sq foot. It was $250k. Substantially cheape, larger and nicer than my GBP310k house near Reigate, Surrey.


Yeah and I wouldnt want to pay Toronto or Vancouver prices...at all

Howefamily Mar 13th 2017 7:14 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 
Our car insurance is bundled with our house insurance and its roughly the same as it was in the UK. I would have to confirm the monthly amount but we had max no claims in the UK and this isnt much different.

SchnookoLoly Mar 13th 2017 7:15 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 
For Alcohol, I made a spreadsheet awhile back to compare prices: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Gives you an idea of what's cheaper in Canada than in the UK. I've put in the current exchange rate of 1.65. Note it doesn't take into account sales and 2-for-1 deals or whatever. It's also using Ontario prices from the LCBO, so YMMV in other provinces.

dbd33 Mar 13th 2017 7:15 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Howefamily (Post 12203787)
They are in NS. We are 40 mins outside of Halifax on 1/4 of an acre lot in a 5 bedroom house of over 2500 sq foot. It was $250k. Substantially cheape, larger and nicer than my GBP310k house near Reigate, Surrey.

Much as I like NS, 40 mins out of Halifax is more akin to 40 minutes out of Aberdeen than it is akin to anywhere in Surrey. I'm surprised you're on a quarter acre; where do you keep your horse?

Howefamily Mar 13th 2017 7:23 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12203797)
Much as I like NS, 40 mins out of Halifax is more akin to 40 minutes out of Aberdeen than it is akin to anywhere in Surrey. I'm surprised you're on a quarter acre; where do you keep your horse?

I have no idea as I have never been to Aberdeen. I do like Halifax a lot though so its all good :cool:


My horse is boarded at a barn in nearby Enfield.

dbd33 Mar 13th 2017 7:27 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Howefamily (Post 12203803)
My horse is boarded at a barn in nearby Enfield.

Ah, ours are boarded too, we have paddocks but no indoor. I imagine everything equine is cheaper in Canada than the UK though it's all cheaper still in the US.

Howefamily Mar 13th 2017 7:30 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12203806)
Ah, ours are boarded too, we have paddocks but no indoor. I imagine everything equine is cheaper in Canada than the UK though it's all cheaper still in the US.

Oh yes definitely. Perhaps I should have added that to the list.
We have no indoor either so not much riding in the winter but I dont care that much.
Home (back in 2007) was GBP400 a month board (fully inclusive), GBP90 every 5 weeks for shoes and then shows and all those fees, insurance etc.
Here (now) is $350 a month for board (fully inclusive), hes barefoot so $40 for trimming, insurance is $700 a year and then shows are roughly the same typed of costs but with a $ sign instead of a pound sign (which I dont have on this keyboard)

Vulcanoid Mar 13th 2017 7:34 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 
Mileage will vary depending where you're going, and crucially where you're starting - eg for real estate my experience is that central Bristol and downtown Vancouver are on the same order of magnitude - most places in UK are cheaper, except London, most places in Canada are cheaper, except Toronto).

Food is much more expensive in Canada - eg bell peppers, 3 pack. ~95p in Britain, $4 in Canada. Own brand jam, 30p in Britain, $3 in Canada.

Clothes, I'm not sure are entire comparable. On the one hand, I just don't buy many, so I'm a lousy sample, but I found my UK wardrobe was almost entirely Canadian-inappropriate. My summer-wear had me sweating, and my winter-wear was totally inadequate. Soo... others have said UK clothes are cheaper, they might just be designed for milder climes. In Britain we'd normally consider vests underwear, I'm now completely blase about wearing them walking around town, because in Kelowna summers anything else is just too darned hot. But I could pick them up for a couple of bucks each, so no big deal. Most of my recent clothing additions come from Canada, cheap, on clearance (I have little concept of being up to date on fashion).

Gas/petrol: Expect the numbers to be nearly identical (less in AB). Whether this means 50% cheaper or 30% cheaper in Canada depends on exchange rate. But distances are much further, and 30mpg is too often vaguely aspirational rather than minimum acceptable.

Electronics will often hold their numbers perfectly between US, Canada, and UK, meaning Canadians complain how they get ripped off by exchange rate, but compared to Britain they're cheap.

All prices in north america, bear in mind when you look at a label, that's pre-tax. This is a point of... extensive transatlantic discussion. (My Canadian partner's assessment: "We're not American, but we do partially come from that tradition. I want to know how much government is taking from me, and that's made obvious by the price difference between what the store wants, and the total I hand over". Plus it makes national advertising easier).

beckiwoo Mar 13th 2017 7:34 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 
Avacados are cheaper here (Vancouver) then in the UK and sushi!

dbd33 Mar 13th 2017 7:40 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Howefamily (Post 12203807)
Oh yes definitely. Perhaps I should have added that to the list.
We have no indoor either so not much riding in the winter but I dont care that much.
Home (back in 2007) was GBP400 a month board (fully inclusive), GBP90 every 5 weeks for shoes and then shows and all those fees, insurance etc.
Here (now) is $350 a month for board (fully inclusive), hes barefoot so $40 for trimming, insurance is $700 a year and then shows are roughly the same typed of costs but with a $ sign instead of a pound sign (which I dont have on this keyboard)

We do ride in the winter, a couple of times a week in lessons, once or twice for practice. Costs here are about the same as in NS. It is possible to spend more, of course; we don't ride in an heated arena with chandeliers and a surface imported from Germany, other people do.

Howefamily Mar 13th 2017 7:45 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12203814)
We do ride in the winter, a couple of times a week in lessons, once or twice for practice. Costs here are about the same as in NS. It is possible to spend more, of course; we don't ride in an heated arena with chandeliers and a surface imported from Germany, other people do.

I think I would have to clip my horse out as his coat is intense in the winter. Instead I just swop the riding for skating or, sometimes skiing.


LOL at the chandelier indoor with imported German floor, thats so spot on a description.

cheeky_monkey Mar 13th 2017 7:56 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Vulcanoid (Post 12203808)

Food is much more expensive in Canada - eg bell peppers, 3 pack. ~95p in Britain, $4 in Canada. Own brand jam, 30p in Britain, $3 in Canada.

Clothes, I'm not sure are entire comparable. On the one hand, I just don't buy many, so I'm a lousy sample, but I found my UK wardrobe was almost entirely Canadian-inappropriate. My summer-wear had me sweating, and my winter-wear was totally inadequate. Soo... others have said UK clothes are cheaper, they might just be designed for milder climes. In Britain we'd normally consider vests underwear, I'm now completely blase about wearing them walking around town, because in Kelowna summers anything else is just too darned hot. But I could pick them up for a couple of bucks each, so no big deal. Most of my recent clothing additions come from Canada, cheap, on clearance (I have little concept of being up to date on fashion).

see i don't find my weekly groceries bill any different to the UK given the exchange rate.

As for clothes i don't wear anything different in Canada than i did in the UK apart from gloves in the winter...granted summers temps in Edmonton are no different to the UK in fact they are more tolerable than London where i used to live as summers are far less humid and comfortable here...again it depends on where in Canada you live.

Aviator Mar 13th 2017 8:19 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 
The important things are cheaper in Canada, Gasoline, Harley Davidson and aeroplanes.

christmasoompa Mar 13th 2017 8:42 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Howefamily (Post 12203807)
Oh yes definitely. Perhaps I should have added that to the list.
We have no indoor either so not much riding in the winter but I dont care that much.
Home (back in 2007) was GBP400 a month board (fully inclusive), GBP90 every 5 weeks for shoes and then shows and all those fees, insurance etc.
Here (now) is $350 a month for board (fully inclusive), hes barefoot so $40 for trimming, insurance is $700 a year and then shows are roughly the same typed of costs but with a $ sign instead of a pound sign (which I dont have on this keyboard)

That must be Surrey prices though - they made me wince! I pay £32.50 to our farrier, not as often as every 5 weeks thankfully. Only shod on the front though but it would still be half what you paid even for full shoes.

Our livery is £215 per month including bedding and hay, in a yard with an indoor school, outdoor school, small x country course and outside jumping arena.

We used to pay £60 a month for grass livery, sadly the good old hardy Welsh mountain pony was outgrown and now we have a prima donna of a pony that needs stabling so it's not quite the bargain it once was. Sigh.

cheeky_monkey Mar 13th 2017 8:57 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 12203833)
The important things are cheaper in Canada, Gasoline, Harley Davidson and aeroplanes.

How much is a Triumph or BSA in Canada?

Howefamily Mar 13th 2017 10:02 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 12203847)
That must be Surrey prices though - they made me wince! I pay £32.50 to our farrier, not as often as every 5 weeks thankfully. Only shod on the front though but it would still be half what you paid even for full shoes.

Our livery is £215 per month including bedding and hay, in a yard with an indoor school, outdoor school, small x country course and outside jumping arena.

We used to pay £60 a month for grass livery, sadly the good old hardy Welsh mountain pony was outgrown and now we have a prima donna of a pony that needs stabling so it's not quite the bargain it once was. Sigh.

They made me wince too. To be fair they were PG shoes as she needed remedial shoeing. The yard has indoor, outdoor, mirrors, heated wash stall etc etc. It was very nice

Hurlabrick Mar 13th 2017 10:15 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 12203833)
The important things are cheaper in Canada, Gasoline, Harley Davidson and aeroplanes.

Commendable set of priorities IMHO!!!

Edo Mar 13th 2017 10:40 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 
Bring some cheap short haul airlines with you if you can.

christmasoompa Mar 13th 2017 10:41 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Howefamily (Post 12203891)
They made me wince too. To be fair they were PG shoes as she needed remedial shoeing. The yard has indoor, outdoor, mirrors, heated wash stall etc etc. It was very nice

It should have been for double the price we pay - frankly for that I'd want champagne on tap and a chauffeur to take me there and back every day. :lol:

suzeandmatt Mar 13th 2017 10:47 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 
My husband and I have been in Calgary for almost 3 months now and I find the following more expensive than the north east of England:

Groceries (a lot more!- I only buy fresh ingredients and have basically become a vegetarian because I refuse to spend so much on chicken- I didn't eat red meat anyway so I don't know about that)
Mobile phone plans (again- insanely more expensive even for SIM only like we got)
Home internet (though HUGELY faster than at home!)
Alcohol
Car insurance
Over the counter medication (I miss 17p paracetamol)
Cosmetics- even shampoo etc.

Cheaper for us:
Clothing
Eating out at comparable restaurants
Gas
House insurance (not by much but a little bit less)
Public transport

The same:
Rent (again comparable- and it includes our bills here but not having council tax sort of keeps it around the same)
Electronics
Take-out food seems to be the same

Howefamily Mar 13th 2017 11:18 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 12203931)
It should have been for double the price we pay - frankly for that I'd want champagne on tap and a chauffeur to take me there and back every day. :lol:

It makes me wonder what the charge is now. I must google

christmasoompa Mar 13th 2017 11:19 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Howefamily (Post 12203954)
It makes me wonder what the charge is now. I must google

Make sure you're sitting down first. :lol:

Howefamily Mar 13th 2017 11:20 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Howefamily (Post 12203954)
It makes me wonder what the charge is now. I must google

http://www.oldencraig.com/
It's this place. It's changed substantially since 2007 even. I hate to think what they charge now

R I C H Mar 13th 2017 11:25 pm

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Howefamily (Post 12203954)
It makes me wonder what the charge is now. I must google

At our equestrian business here in BC, we charged $495 p/mth (indoor stall with daily turnout, or outdoor minimum 1/2 acre irrigated grass paddock and shelter). Use of outdoor and heated indoor arenas were included, along with showers (human and horse), lounge (human only), 20 acre cross country course, Kraft horse walker and direct access to Crown Land for trail riding. All hay and hard feed were included, clients supplied any supplements.

Shoeing costs starts at around $100 depending on farrier, trimming around 1/2 that price.

dbd33 Mar 13th 2017 11:57 pm

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Originally Posted by R I C H (Post 12203963)
At our equestrian business here in BC, we charged $495 p/mth (indoor stall with daily turnout, or outdoor minimum 1/2 acre irrigated grass paddock and shelter). Use of outdoor and heated indoor arenas were included, along with showers (human and horse), lounge (human only), 20 acre cross country course, Kraft horse walker and direct access to Crown Land for trail riding. All hay and hard feed were included, clients supplied any supplements.

Shoeing costs starts at around $100 depending on farrier, trimming around 1/2 that price.

Here, indoor board goes from $400 to a couple of grand. Many barns will tie a lesson requirement to the board price. Facilities do matter but, at some point, it's the barn's connections that drive the price - is it an 'A' circuit barn? Is there a Big Name Trainer? Prices vary by season as, in the winter, the serious riders and coaches have gone to the Florida circuit. Other people take their horses home for the summer and only board in the winter for the use of the indoor.

We're very much at the $400 end of the market. Hoof trims are $40 though the last farrier visit was $200 for one horse due to an abscess and the need for temporary plastic undershoes. Worming is $10, vaccinations a couple of hundred, the OOTB has a vitamin supplement at $50/month and some sort of performance food at a similar price. And then there's the saddle pad addiction...

dbd33 Mar 14th 2017 12:11 am

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Originally Posted by Howefamily (Post 12203959)
I hate to think what they charge now

GBP200/week for the basic service it says. I didn't read on to see if there were other implied charges such as lessons or valet parking fees. $200/week is enough here to finance having an unbroke horse boarded and trained for western riding.

DandNHill Mar 14th 2017 12:15 am

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12203775)
Car insurance is very much more expensive here and I question the claim that houses are cheaper. Houses in Vancouver or Toronto are more expensive than houses in most of the UK (not London, of course).

Car insurance? Don't get me started!!!! 😳😱😤

dbd33 Mar 14th 2017 12:37 am

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Originally Posted by DandNHill (Post 12204010)
Car insurance? Don't get me started!!!! 😳😱😤

Mine's been falling steadily, it's under $500/month now. It's still my largest automotive cost though. The commuter car goes 30,000 miles a year. That's $100/week in petrol, $100/week in servicing and whatnot + the insurance.

quiltman Mar 14th 2017 1:41 am

Re: Things that are cheaper in the UK vs Canada?
 

Originally Posted by SchnookoLoly (Post 12203796)
For Alcohol, I made a spreadsheet awhile back to compare prices: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Gives you an idea of what's cheaper in Canada than in the UK. I've put in the current exchange rate of 1.65. Note it doesn't take into account sales and 2-for-1 deals or whatever. It's also using Ontario prices from the LCBO, so YMMV in other provinces.

Looks like single Malts are a lot cheaper in UK. I might do a similar spreadsheet for here! Bombay Sapphire is around £10 at current exchange rates, mind you a bottle of local rum is £3 for 1.5 litres and it's perfectly acceptable with a bit of cola!:lol:


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