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Is there anyone that is not an IT specialist??

Old Mar 15th 2005, 8:49 am
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I can't help noticing the amount of people that are going or gone to Canada that are in IT. many seem to be complaining form day one that they can't get work, having left a highly paid job in UK. With kids leaving school with excellent IT skills to me it isn't any wonder that jobs are in short supply.

I would be interested to know what other people intend to do. Do you intend to carry on in the profession you are currently in in UK ? Do you want a completely different career. Do you want to work for yourself?
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Originally Posted by gooding
I can't help noticing the amount of people that are going or gone to Canada that are in IT. many seem to be complaining form day one that they can't get work, having left a highly paid job in UK. With kids leaving school with excellent IT skills to me it isn't any wonder that jobs are in short supply.

I would be interested to know what other people intend to do. Do you intend to carry on in the profession you are currently in in UK ? Do you want a completely different career. Do you want to work for yourself?
Could it be beause you are on an "Internet Forum" ????


BTW I am not in IT, I am a manufacturing engineer still out there hunting through monster.ca. Lady mhhp is an architect and will be seting up her own business restoring old run down victorian houses.
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I can't help noticing the amount of people that are going or gone to Canada that are in IT. many seem to be complaining form day one that they can't get work, having left a highly paid job in UK. With kids leaving school with excellent IT skills to me it isn't any wonder that jobs are in short supply.

I would be interested to know what other people intend to do. Do you intend to carry on in the profession you are currently in in UK ? Do you want a completely different career. Do you want to work for yourself?
Hi Gooding

Just wondering what the term IT means to people on the forum. Is it anyone that uses a computer related to work and then you ask what field do you use a computer for.

Mine's Graphics/Marketing so only partly related to PC/Macs as I can work on drawing board (cause I'm an olden), and there illustration/photography which is away from the PC/Mac....the list goes on but inveriably it comes down to a PC/Mac for output to the medium required.

Not sure about Canada when we get there (if), as it may come down to what I can get or who I meet or what I want to do. I fancy the idea of continuing to work for ouselves but money will be needed at some point.
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Hi Gooding

Just wondering what the term IT means to people on the forum. Is it anyone that uses a computer related to work and then you ask what field do you use a computer for.

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In applying for any job it's an advantage to have computer skills (Word, Excel, etc.) and make sure that they're on your resume. IT expertise tends to be product or programming language specific which restricts the opportunities. In addition I think there's a surplus of people in this category because of the new entrants attracted during the bubble and the surplus resulting from the bust.
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I agree, there are so many different aspects of being in 'IT'. It's like saying you're 'In showbiz' but in reality you could be a stage hand or an actor. It's a shame that everything get's bunged into one catagory. In reality you could be a CAD opperator or a webpage programmer, a buisness analyst or an operator.
I'm a C/C++ programmer and just looking around the web there appear to be jobs around, but I'll save that statment to when I get out there!
IT over here is on the up again, so maybe it'll follow in Canada in the near future.
I'm very lucky in that the company I'm currently working for want me to carry on working for them (from home) when I get out to Canada, but if I couldnt find a job in IT, I'd quite happilly do a career change if need be.
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Originally Posted by gooding
I can't help noticing the amount of people that are going or gone to Canada that are in IT. many seem to be complaining form day one that they can't get work, having left a highly paid job in UK. With kids leaving school with excellent IT skills to me it isn't any wonder that jobs are in short supply.

I would be interested to know what other people intend to do. Do you intend to carry on in the profession you are currently in in UK ? Do you want a completely different career. Do you want to work for yourself?

Hello,

I'm in Social Services and I'm hoping to obtain a job working with services for children.
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I was just trying to find out if what other occupations out there applying under skilled worker.

As Canada seem to be crying out for "skilled workers" I felt that what people see as skilled seems to vary.
I have heard they have an abundance of Accountants, Computer experts, even doctors ( contrary to what I read)
With all the building going on and increasing there is a shortage of tradespeople. Builders, carpenters, plumbers, electricians. Aircraft technicians, Even HGV drivers.
I have seldom heard of many applying. As many of these skills are learnt from experience and often by people who left school with no qualifications, I wondered how they would fair getting through the immigration process.
Although apprenticeships score points through the system. i know of several people who have nothing on paper. Just years of experience, but unless they get a job offer from within Canada, they will not score the points without something on paper.
Tourism and retail are also growth areas, but i do not hear of many people in these occupations applying, or civil servants

From what I have read it appears that most people will have to have more than one string to their bow to succeed in Canada.

I am a Technical and Graphic Illustrator by profession( old school , pen paint and drawing board) but as most of this has gone on to computer by kids my daughters age I have no desire to do the same.

I have spent the last 7 years building a completely different retail/import export business. And yes i do use the computer daily for everything.

I believed the reason for dropping the points was to make more of the people they have a real shortgage of apply. Prior to the 67 points score many tradespeople did not stand a chance.

Figures out show they are meeting immigration targets, but I cannot see figures saying if those people are actually getting jobs in their filed. Or if infact dropping the points is attracting the right people for the jobs vacant.


Originally Posted by SANDRAPAUL
Hi Gooding

Just wondering what the term IT means to people on the forum. Is it anyone that uses a computer related to work and then you ask what field do you use a computer for.

Mine's Graphics/Marketing so only partly related to PC/Macs as I can work on drawing board (cause I'm an olden), and there illustration/photography which is away from the PC/Mac....the list goes on but inveriably it comes down to a PC/Mac for output to the medium required.

Not sure about Canada when we get there (if), as it may come down to what I can get or who I meet or what I want to do. I fancy the idea of continuing to work for ouselves but money will be needed at some point.
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I'm an UK Estate Agent and planning to continue when I get to Canada... Luckly I am not applying through the 'skilled worker' catagory..!!!!!
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Hello,

We are in the building trade (mainly carpentry), husband has been self-employed for twenty years, if we are successful in our application it is our intention to continue along the same route in Canada, hopefully renovating property, so heres hoping!
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Default Re: Is there anyone that is not an IT specialist??

Originally Posted by gooding
I can't help noticing the amount of people that are going or gone to Canada that are in IT. many seem to be complaining form day one that they can't get work, having left a highly paid job in UK. With kids leaving school with excellent IT skills to me it isn't any wonder that jobs are in short supply.

I would be interested to know what other people intend to do. Do you intend to carry on in the profession you are currently in in UK ? Do you want a completely different career. Do you want to work for yourself?

Good Point!

I have been following this message board for about a year, and I am appalled at how easily people toss around the "IT specialist" title. IT specialist professions are DEAD. They were thriving during the dot.com era, but now they are dead. I would be outraged if people use that as a title on their resume. I am sure HR people toss those resumes in the garbage when they see them

The Information Technology field has evolved, and branched out in highly specialised fields. What you have now are Network Administrators (for small or big companies), Security Officers, Coders, Project Managers, or HelpDesk. If you don't find yourself in any of these fields, and still call yourself IT specialist, you are a little disillusioned.
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Mine is using the computer in such a way that it helps other people use a computer. That is a specific field where 90% of the skilss and knowledge are realted to the field of computing the other 10% is geeky stuff like starwars etc so you can socialise in coffee breaks. (Systems Development or programming - as those peole who dont recognise fancy titles call it)

Originally Posted by SANDRAPAUL
Hi Gooding

Just wondering what the term IT means to people on the forum. Is it anyone that uses a computer related to work and then you ask what field do you use a computer for.

Mine's Graphics/Marketing so only partly related to PC/Macs as I can work on drawing board (cause I'm an olden), and there illustration/photography which is away from the PC/Mac....the list goes on but inveriably it comes down to a PC/Mac for output to the medium required.

Not sure about Canada when we get there (if), as it may come down to what I can get or who I meet or what I want to do. I fancy the idea of continuing to work for ouselves but money will be needed at some point.
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Originally Posted by prodigyking
The Information Technology field has evolved, and branched out in highly specialised fields. What you have now are Network Administrators (for small or big companies), Security Officers, Coders, Project Managers, or HelpDesk. If you don't find yourself in any of these fields, and still call yourself IT specialist, you are a little disillusioned.
Surely these specialist fields with their fancy titles are under the umbrella of IT?

Same as you have Respiratory, Anaesthetic, Emergency Practitioner specialies of nursing, but they're still nurses.

I don't think IT is RIP yet
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Hi all, well I am A Railway Signalling Faulting and Maintenance Technician, I intend to carry on in Canada as I don't know if my experence and skills would be easily transferable.

Apparently the Railway re-signalling business is soon to take off

Regards to you all, Steve
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I use powerpoint in my job, does this make me an IT specialist?


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Chartered Physiotherapist, ......and I shall probably have to continue with this in Canada unless hubby gets a "proper job" and can keep me int he manner to which I'd like to become accustomed!!

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