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keznjj Jul 20th 2009 8:51 pm

Televisions
 
I know that it has been put on here at some time but I cant find it, hence the reason for another daft post:blink:

We have two relatively new flat screen tellys that have the dual voltage option.
Now the question is...
Should I bring the tellys with me or best to sell them and buy new. I have heard that the frequency malarky thing might not be compatible.

Any suggestions or advice always welcome:thumbsup:

SambaDeAmigo Jul 20th 2009 11:49 pm

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Are they NTSC? Should work if they are.

Brownstar Jul 21st 2009 2:27 am

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New TV's are pretty cheap over here so I'd sell them unless they are of the very expensive type

MikeUK Jul 21st 2009 2:38 am

Re: Televisions
 

Originally Posted by keznjj (Post 7770023)
I know that it has been put on here at some time but I cant find it, hence the reason for another daft post:blink:

We have two relatively new flat screen tellys that have the dual voltage option.
Now the question is...
Should I bring the tellys with me or best to sell them and buy new. I have heard that the frequency malarky thing might not be compatible.

Any suggestions or advice always welcome:thumbsup:

My guess is if they're dual volatage and bought in the Aus/NZ region then its highly likely they are multi region units and may well be suitable the world over

I'd bring them

post up the model number and make, and I'm sure somebody could google the specification sheet up and tell you

el_richo Jul 21st 2009 2:50 am

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Sell them where you are and buy new in Canada. At least that way you'll be able to get some money for them if it turns out they're no good to use in Canada.

Plus if anything goes wrong with them you'll be out of warranty i think as you'll not be in the purchasing country? Not sure about that one though.

Alan2005 Jul 21st 2009 2:58 am

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Originally Posted by keznjj (Post 7770023)
I know that it has been put on here at some time but I cant find it, hence the reason for another daft post:blink:

We have two relatively new flat screen tellys that have the dual voltage option.
Now the question is...
Should I bring the tellys with me or best to sell them and buy new. I have heard that the frequency malarky thing might not be compatible.

Any suggestions or advice always welcome:thumbsup:

If they are good tv's that work with NTSC and you are bringing over a container of stuff anyway then bring them with you. If you have a wooden veneer pye television from the 70's then you should bung it in the skip.

jericho Jul 21st 2009 3:22 am

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Originally Posted by Brownstar (Post 7770963)
New TV's are pretty cheap over here so I'd sell them unless they are of the very expensive type

If they work here, why sell it (at a loss) and spend another $1000 to buy a new one???:confused:

Brownstar Jul 21st 2009 4:04 am

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Originally Posted by jericho (Post 7771090)
If they work here, why sell it (at a loss) and spend another $1000 to buy a new one???:confused:

Because you don't need to spend a $1000 to buy one over here unless you want a wizz bang one. I bought a 37" 780p Toshiba for $649. You can get them cheaper than that too.

Like I said, if the TV's cost a lot then it might be worth the risk however if they are cheapo ones then why bother with the hassle of them maybe not working and not having any warranty.

AdrianR Jul 21st 2009 5:02 am

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I'm with Brownstar on this one.

Unless you are 110% sure the TV is NTSC compatible AND it's not a cheapo set that will give up the ghost before the warranty expires, then sell it and buy new in Canada (thus stimulating the Canuck economy!).

MikeUK Jul 21st 2009 5:49 am

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Originally Posted by AdrianR (Post 7771345)
I'm with Brownstar on this one.

Unless you are 110% sure the TV is NTSC compatible AND it's not a cheapo set that will give up the ghost before the warranty expires, then sell it and buy new in Canada (thus stimulating the Canuck economy!).

As somebody that brough a UK TV over 5 years ago and it was NTSC/PAL compatible then !

most modern TV's bought outside of the US are multi standard and can be set via the menu


As its dual voltage I'd bring it, its very likely that its UL approved and will work and be legal
and I would be very surprised if Modern a dual voltage TV isn't PAL/NTSC/DVB/ASTC/ISDB as well (canada hasn't got to the DVB/ASTC/ISDB debate yet)

Clay Buster Jul 21st 2009 7:08 am

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I brought a Sony Bravia 40" HDTV from the UAE to Canada and it worked fine. I didn't even need to select the voltage. As long as you have the original manual with all the specs, it should be clear whether it works with NTSC and 110v/60Hz. Tuning isn't an issue when you're likely to be using a direct feed from cable or satellite.
The big issue is the marginal cost of transporting the TV. If you're bringing a container, the likelihood is that you'll find space regardless. If you're bringing 4 or 5 cubic metres, it might be costly to ship the TV as well.
Having said that, if the TVs are more than a year or two old, I'd ditch them anyway!

keznjj Jul 21st 2009 6:56 pm

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Hey Guys;)

Thanks heaps for the feedback.
I really appreciate your advice and help:thumbup:

Clay Buster Jul 21st 2009 11:04 pm

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I put a couple of links in my original post which were removed by the mods. Frankly, I don't see why! Anyway, the shops in question are easy to find and are nationwide (just add sales tax as appropriate for those used to UK, tax-inclusive, pricing). Future Shop and Best Buy (add ca after the dot).

christmasoompa Jul 21st 2009 11:06 pm

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Originally Posted by Clay Buster (Post 7773665)
I put a couple of links in my original post which were removed by the mods. Frankly, I don't see why!

Because you are a new member and your post contained links, it was automatically sent to the mod queue to be checked.

Apologies, but we have to be cautious regarding spammers, and because you are new it was decided to remove the links but leave the remaining content of your post - just in case you were advertising your own company or that of a friend! Particularly as the OP didn't even ask for shopping recommendations so it wasn't necessarily relevant. We get a lot of spam here, so just have to be careful as I'm sure you'll understand.

Feel free to PM your recommendations to the OP though, rather than put them on the open forum.

:)

Clay Buster Jul 21st 2009 11:14 pm

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Thanks for the clarification, chrismasoompa. I can assure you I have no commercial interest in Future Shop or Best Buy! I am typing on a desktop bought at the latter, and my laptop came from the former along with lots of other bits and bobs. I'm glad you've (so far!) left my last post unamended as any newcomer will find it useful to know the costs involved in replacing their consumer electronics when moving to Canuckia. It's important too to remember that sales tax is added afterwards and varies from 5% to 18% depending on the province.

iaink Jul 22nd 2009 1:31 am

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Im not sure those two stores offer the best value around...they like to pretend to compete, but as they have the same parent company its not much of a competition.

My advice if you are buying it to head to the local first nations reserve and see if they have a store (ours does)....saving the sales tax makes a big difference on a big ticket item even if the sticker price is not as competitive:sneaky:

Brownstar Jul 22nd 2009 2:35 am

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Originally Posted by iaink (Post 7774020)
Im not sure those two stores offer the best value around...they like to pretend to compete, but as they have the same parent company its not much of a competition.

My advice if you are buying it to head to the local first nations reserve and see if they have a store (ours does)....saving the sales tax makes a big difference on a big ticket item even if the sticker price is not as competitive:sneaky:

Extensive research I did when purchasing my TV and other electrical items point to a slightly different out come. Generally Best Buy is cheapest here abouts, when comparing models..........this included stores like Leon's, Soundsaround, Visions, Sears, etc. Occassionally Best Buy and Future Shop are equal on price or within 10% but the advantage with Best Buy is Best Buy rewards.

Larger companies generally have better buying power and can sell things slightly cheaper then other stores without the buying power.....thats why Walmart is cheap.

MMM_TO Jul 22nd 2009 2:52 am

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Tellys don't work here in Canada but Televisions do :rofl:

I'd also sell in the UK and buy new here. Like OP are saying why risk it? When I bought my new Samsung HDTV I price checked it against what it would have cost in the UK and it was about 300 dollars cheaper here.

See what you could get for it on Ebay and compare it against prices on BestBuy or Futureshop etc.

Alan2005 Jul 22nd 2009 3:05 am

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Originally Posted by Brownstar (Post 7774167)
Extensive research I did when purchasing my TV and other electrical items point to a slightly different out come. Generally Best Buy is cheapest here abouts, when comparing models..........this included stores like Leon's, Soundsaround, Visions, Sears, etc. Occassionally Best Buy and Future Shop are equal on price or within 10% but the advantage with Best Buy is Best Buy rewards.

Larger companies generally have better buying power and can sell things slightly cheaper then other stores without the buying power.....thats why Walmart is cheap.

I got my TV from future shop as it was doing a deal on the tv i wanted at the time. The experience wasn't pleasant. The guy kept trying to sell me an AC power filter for $300 in case of a power surge - I was polite and let him ramble on about this for a while until I told him that a 10c fuse would actually do the same thing. He then wanted to sell me an extended warranty for 25% of the cost of the original TV and when I laughed he immediately halved the cost. In the end he was offering the warranty for a fifth of the original price - still didn't buy it tho. Anyway - I guess I agree with Brownstar, if you know what you are going to buy first then those two stores can be good value - just don't ask them for any sensible advice as they will only try and rip you off.

Steve_P Jul 22nd 2009 3:14 am

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Originally Posted by Brownstar (Post 7774167)
Extensive research I did when purchasing my TV and other electrical items point to a slightly different out come. Generally Best Buy is cheapest here abouts, when comparing models..........this included stores like Leon's, Soundsaround, Visions, Sears, etc. Occassionally Best Buy and Future Shop are equal on price or within 10% but the advantage with Best Buy is Best Buy rewards.

Larger companies generally have better buying power and can sell things slightly cheaper then other stores without the buying power.....thats why Walmart is cheap.

Costco is also worthy of consideration if they have the model you want.

They will take it back within 90 days if you decide you don't like it. They offer free tech support and they'll extend the manufacturers warranty to two years.

http://www.costco.ca/service/feature...orcelang=en-CA

If you purchase in store as far as I know they don't deliver, however if you order online shipping and handling are included in the price.

They don't price match.

MMM_TO Jul 22nd 2009 3:16 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 7774239)
I got my TV from future shop as it was doing a deal on the tv i wanted at the time. The experience wasn't pleasant. The guy kept trying to sell me an AC power filter for $300 in case of a power surge - I was polite and let him ramble on about this for a while until I told him that a 10c fuse would actually do the same thing. He then wanted to sell me an extended warranty for 25% of the cost of the original TV and when I laughed he immediately halved the cost. In the end he was offering the warranty for a fifth of the original price - still didn't buy it tho. Anyway - I guess I agree with Brownstar, if you know what you are going to buy first then those two stores can be good value - just don't ask them for any sensible advice as they will only try and rip you off.

No different to Curry's or Comet IMO.

But yeah, stick to your guns and they'll soon get the message no means no.

MMM_TO Jul 22nd 2009 3:18 am

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Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 7774252)
Costco is also worthy of consideration if they have the model you want.

They will take it back within 90 days if you decide you don't like it. They offer free tech support and they'll extend the manufacturers warranty to two years.

http://www.costco.ca/service/feature...orcelang=en-CA

If you purchase in store as far as I know they don't deliver, however if you order online shipping and handling are included in the price.

They don't price match.

Is Costco AMEX and debit/cash only?!?!?

I was a member at Sam's Club before Walmart pulled the rug from under it's feet - they only accepted Mastercard and debit/cash.

Just wondering cos usually buying with Visa I'd get extended warranty (on my CC anyway).

Steve_P Jul 22nd 2009 3:23 am

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Originally Posted by MMM_TO (Post 7774270)
Is Costco AMEX and debit/cash only?!?!?

In store yes.

Online they accept Amex, Visa and Mastercard.

Brownstar Jul 22nd 2009 3:44 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 7774239)
I got my TV from future shop as it was doing a deal on the tv i wanted at the time. The experience wasn't pleasant. The guy kept trying to sell me an AC power filter for $300 in case of a power surge - I was polite and let him ramble on about this for a while until I told him that a 10c fuse would actually do the same thing. He then wanted to sell me an extended warranty for 25% of the cost of the original TV and when I laughed he immediately halved the cost. In the end he was offering the warranty for a fifth of the original price - still didn't buy it tho. Anyway - I guess I agree with Brownstar, if you know what you are going to buy first then those two stores can be good value - just don't ask them for any sensible advice as they will only try and rip you off.

I've always found that Best Buy don't do the big sell, but Future Shop do

MMM_TO Jul 22nd 2009 3:44 am

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Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 7774281)
In store yes.

Online they accept Amex, Visa and Mastercard.

That's good to know. Ta

Clay Buster Jul 22nd 2009 8:22 am

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Agreed with all the above, re: shop around.

On a related(ish) subject and one that's actually vitally important when moving to Canada, a TV purchase can be used to start off getting a credit rating. My first TV in Canada was a CRT 4:3 since I reckoned "why bother with widescreen when they don't broadcast in it?" This was 2004, and of course I realised I'd made a mistake the first time I rented a DVD... The next TV, a few months later, was a 46" rear-projection LCD HDTV (Samsung, I highly recommend the brand) which at the time was about $2,000 and was the cutting edge. I got it at Visions on a "buy now, pay in 12 months" deal, which was actually financed through Wells Fargo. I paid up in full after 6 months - better than forgetting and getting stung with 30% interest!

When I first arrived, I couldn't get a store card at IKEA due to no credit rating, and HSBC were hopeless. I only opened an account with them in the UK before going on the grounds that they were the only UK bank with a branch network in Canada. Of course they didn't actually transfer my credit rating! They opened a Canadian account for me from the UK, but that was only due to the tenacity of my UK account manager. HSBC offered me a credit card with a $2,000 limit, so long as I deposited $3,000 as security.... I pointed out that charging me interest to use 2/3s of my own money was not credit. In the end, I joined the CAA online and 5 minutes later phoned up MBNA to get the CAA credit card. MBNA apparently use (or at least did then) humans to make decisions, so I got a card with a $5,000 limit. The other thing I did, indeed the first, was to lease a car. A lease is easier to get as you technically don't own the car during the lease term. Between the car lease, the MBNA card and the Wells Fargo TV credit, I had a decent credit rating within a year or so of getting to Canada and could get a 90% mortgage.

Almost Canadian Jul 22nd 2009 8:29 am

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Originally Posted by Clay Buster (Post 7775144)
...was a 46" rear-projection LCD HDTV ...

Isn't that a contradiction:p

Brownstar Jul 22nd 2009 8:41 am

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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 7775162)
Isn't that a contradiction:p

I was going to point that out too but decided against it as I didn't want to be classed as a trouble maker

Clay Buster Jul 22nd 2009 8:46 am

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Copied from About.com for you non-believers....

Currently, there are three major basic types of projection technology commonly used in rear-projection televisions in today: CRT, LCD, and DLP. There are also variations of these three types that are not widely used at this time (including D-ILA and LCOS). However, for the purposes of this article, I have chosen to present an overview of the three major video projection technologies.

el_richo Jul 22nd 2009 9:14 am

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Originally Posted by Brownstar (Post 7775188)
I was going to point that out too but decided against it as I didn't want to be classed as a trouble maker

Trouble maker

Brownstar Jul 22nd 2009 9:20 am

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Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 7775284)
Trouble maker

Thanks...........I did really, its a badge to be proud of

jimf Jul 22nd 2009 9:55 am

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Originally Posted by Brownstar (Post 7774344)
I've always found that Best Buy don't do the big sell, but Future Shop do

I was told that the Future Shop "experts" have to make most of their money on commission but at Best Buy they are on fixed salaries pretty much.

Does "The Brick" do TVs? I was told they are propbably the worst store for commission hungry sales staff but they do good deals.

Brownstar Jul 22nd 2009 9:58 am

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 7775374)
I was told that the Future Shop "experts" have to make most of their money on commission but at Best Buy they are on fixed salaries pretty much.

Does "The Brick" do TVs? I was told they are propbably the worst store for commission hungry sales staff but they do good deals.

Yes, Yes & Yes..............I tend to do my research before going to the store, knowing exactly what I want and asking for it saves them trying to sell to me.

Clay Buster Jul 22nd 2009 5:38 pm

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But at The Brick, you don't buy a TV. You buy overpriced furniture and they give you a TV. If you're lucky, it'll be worth almost as much as you were overcharged on the sofa. Oops, I mean chesterfield.

stoobee1 Jul 27th 2009 11:10 pm

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Originally Posted by Clay Buster (Post 7771777)
I brought a Sony Bravia 40" HDTV from the UAE to Canada and it worked fine. I didn't even need to select the voltage. As long as you have the original manual with all the specs, it should be clear whether it works with NTSC and 110v/60Hz. Tuning isn't an issue when you're likely to be using a direct feed from cable or satellite.
The big issue is the marginal cost of transporting the TV. If you're bringing a container, the likelihood is that you'll find space regardless. If you're bringing 4 or 5 cubic metres, it might be costly to ship the TV as well.
Having said that, if the TVs are more than a year or two old, I'd ditch them anyway!

Probably, the only thing you wont get from your NZ TV is the ability to use the built-in tuner since it will not be NTSC/ATSC compatible. The TV will essentially just be a monitor which you can hook up to an external tuner box from Rogers or Bell. So unfortunately you won't be able to use an antenna with the TV to watch free HD. Maybe that's not a problem for you.

If you want a quick way to test your TV's ability to accept an NTSC signal try connecting something like a digital camera to it and switch between PAL and NTSC outputs to see if the image is still visible and in colour.

Interestingly try finding a TV in Canada that'll accept a PAL signal. My new Samsung will lock the 50Hz signal but no colour. I had a Sony Bravia briefly and a PAL signal on that was garbled. So at least that'll be one advantage of having an overseas TV :) Another case of the world not existing outside North America!

MikeUK Jul 28th 2009 2:24 am

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Originally Posted by stoobee1 (Post 7790854)
Interestingly try finding a TV in Canada that'll accept a PAL signal. My new Samsung will lock the 50Hz signal but no colour. I had a Sony Bravia briefly and a PAL signal on that was garbled. So at least that'll be one advantage of having an overseas TV :) Another case of the world not existing outside North America!

You can find them here

They tend to be Asian multi-voltage models and cost two to three times as much as a regular TV


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