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Young163 May 28th 2014 10:39 am

Taking dog with us
 
Anyone taken their dog with them from Heathrow to St Johns with Air Canada. I was going to use airpets or similar but just wondered if easier to do on our own.

DandNHill May 28th 2014 10:47 pm

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I didn't think Air Canada allowed you to do it yourself. I might be confusing the airlines, it's 3 years since we did it. But if it is allowed, it was very easy. Just very weird to see your dog, in her crate, strapped to a pallet and on the front of a forklift heading to the warehouse... :unsure:

Jimbo2012 May 29th 2014 2:35 am

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Originally Posted by Young163 (Post 11279725)
Anyone taken their dog with them from Heathrow to St Johns with Air Canada. I was going to use airpets or similar but just wondered if easier to do on our own.

When we moved over here we used Airpets UK and they took care of everything i.e. vaccinations, documentation etc..
They even picked our dog up from our home 2 days before we flew (Heathrow - Toronto).
It wasn't cheap but it was one less big stress at a very stressful time and the dog arrived in Canada healthy and happy (and didn't even soil his crate!)

Tootlepootle May 29th 2014 6:04 am

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Originally Posted by Young163 (Post 11279725)
Anyone taken their dog with them from Heathrow to St Johns with Air Canada. I was going to use airpets or similar but just wondered if easier to do on our own.

We did it ourselves with Air Canada from Heathrow to Vancouver. It was relatively straight forward. Air Canada website does have a section on travelling with animals. They don't take them as excess baggage from mid June to mid September.

MrFloyd May 29th 2014 10:18 am

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Sorry, I keep seeing this thinking it says "Talking dog with us" and wondering why there aren't more replies...

Young163 May 29th 2014 10:26 am

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Originally Posted by Tootlepootle (Post 11280886)
We did it ourselves with Air Canada from Heathrow to Vancouver. It was relatively straight forward. Air Canada website does have a section on travelling with animals. They don't take them as excess baggage from mid June to mid September.

That's good to know, will have to give AC call tomorrow as we were hoping to take him in July

Young163 May 29th 2014 10:28 am

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Originally Posted by MrFloyd (Post 11281233)
Sorry, I keep seeing this thinking it says "Talking dog with us" and wondering why there aren't more replies...

If only Charlie could talk. :D Then he could let me know what he thinks of the idea of being in crate for over 5 hours!

Former Lancastrian May 29th 2014 10:40 am

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Will the dog be applying for an LMO thereby becoming a Temporary Foreign Woofer?

Oink May 29th 2014 11:05 am

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Originally Posted by Young163 (Post 11279725)
Anyone taken their dog with them from Heathrow to St Johns with Air Canada. I was going to use airpets or similar but just wondered if easier to do on our own.

I think most people give theirs away and get another one here. Much kinder to the animal than flying it out and making it endure the bitter winters and humid summers, when its not used to them.

MillieF May 29th 2014 11:57 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11281285)
I think most people give theirs away and get another one here. Much kinder to the animal than flying it out and making it endure the bitter winters and humid summers, when its not used to them.

The same could of course be said about kids....and they are generally less likely to bite the neighbours! The dogs that is!

Me...I'd bring the dog (I brought a dog and three cats) ...they don't know humidity or cold, just love and affection...they adapt far better than the rest of us. Best of luck:)

Mikeypm May 29th 2014 3:19 pm

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We sorted out everything ourselves so vet trip, crates and booking our cat and dog on the flight. We used airtransat and both pets have settled well and are none the worse for having been on a nine hour flight over here.

Siouxie May 29th 2014 5:00 pm

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Air Transat will allow you to take the dog as excess baggage for around £200.

:)

Young163 May 29th 2014 6:08 pm

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11281285)
I think most people give theirs away and get another one here. Much kinder to the animal than flying it out and making it endure the bitter winters and humid summers, when its not used to them.

Just couldn't leave him behind. You have however given me an excellent idea!
Joining my husband in St Johns after 3 years, might suggest that instead of me finally joining him out there permanently that he trades me in for newer model, I'm not too keen on the bitter winters or humid summers either.:)

Howefamily May 30th 2014 4:27 am

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We brought our cat and did it ourselves, followed the directions on the Air Canada website and the vet was helpful so all our paperwork was in order.
We got our crate from ebay, it was a varicrate and we measured the cat, who wasn't that helpful in all honesty, at the time.
We booked him on the flight with us, it was GBP100 at the time (3 years ago). He came to the airport and a nice AC employee took him from us at the check in desk.
It was all straight forward and he was fine at the other end.

Good luck with your dog.

DandNHill May 30th 2014 11:40 am

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Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 11281479)
Air Transat will allow you to take the dog as excess baggage for around £200.

:)

I think it depends on the weight of the dog. We brought over our Golden Retriever and she was too heavy for excess baggage. That was the same for both AC and Air Transat

Bucks_Family May 30th 2014 3:11 pm

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Originally Posted by DandNHill (Post 11282821)
I think it depends on the weight of the dog. We brought over our Golden Retriever and she was too heavy for excess baggage. That was the same for both AC and Air Transat

We flew our 25kg airedale over, in his giant vari-kennel, as excess baggage with Air Transat last summer (August), from Manchester to Calgary. I checked several times in advance with AT over the phone, they were adamant that the weight of the dog+crate didn't matter, it is the paperwork that matters.
There is more on this kind of thing in this thread.

Having said that, not sure if it's relevant for the OP flying on AC from LHR to St Johns.

Mikeypm May 30th 2014 4:11 pm

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Originally Posted by Bucks_Family (Post 11282963)
We flew our 25kg airedale over, in his giant vari-kennel, as excess baggage with Air Transat last summer (August), from Manchester to Calgary. I checked several times in advance with AT over the phone, they were adamant that the weight of the dog+crate didn't matter, it is the paperwork that matters.
There is more on this kind of thing in this thread.

Having said that, not sure if it's relevant for the OP flying on AC from LHR to St Johns.

I would second that, we did not need to confirm the weight for our dog and cat. We purchased the vari kennels from zoo plus for £70 per kennel. AT where really good and let us stay with our cat and dog until quite close to departure and on the flight the stewardess let us know they were ok and had been secured on the flight. Some people have said you need an export certificate from DEFRA, but I called the equivalent agency in Canada and was advised we just needed a letter stamped from our vet confirming the pets had a rabies injection, the type of rabies injection and how long the injection provided cover for.

angeljaye Jun 2nd 2014 2:13 pm

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Hi, we flew with our dog Air Canada last October from Heathrow to Montreal. It was was a little stressful as I travelled alone with 2 kids, tons of cases & the dog but reasonably straight forward & certainly much cheaper than Airpets etc. Air Canada were brilliant but you must bare in mind once he's checked in he won't be let out again until you leave the airport terminal at the other end. Taking into account arrival 2 hours before flight and then passport control + immigration + cases + process/paperwork for collecting him, ours was in the crate just under 10 hours :-(
I was concerned but Air Canada Heathrow happily let us check in the cases first & we then sat outside the terminal & walked him up & down for as long as we possibly could then checked him in & went straight to the flight. No shopping time but worth the extra hour for him out of the crate.
Once on the plane I told cabin crew my dog was in the hold & she immediately reminded the captain and put my mind at ease that the temperature was being controlled for him.
Feel free to pm if you have anymore question or just want some hints & tips on the whole process :-)
Good luck

jennypt Jul 9th 2014 4:18 am

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Hi

I have just booked myself and our dog onto an air transat flight from manchester to vancouver for the 16th August. her giant vari kennel arrived today and just looks enormous!

I have done lots of research and called up defra and air transat several times and according to DEFRA she only requires her pet passport as proof of rabies vaccination and a fit to fly certificate from the vet. is this right? did anyone else that went the DIY route need any other paperwork?

Thanks

Siouxie Jul 9th 2014 4:23 am

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Originally Posted by jennypt (Post 11331158)
Hi

I have just booked myself and our dog onto an air transat flight from manchester to vancouver for the 16th August. her giant vari kennel arrived today and just looks enormous!

I have done lots of research and called up defra and air transat several times and according to DEFRA she only requires her pet passport as proof of rabies vaccination and a fit to fly certificate from the vet. is this right? did anyone else that went the DIY route need any other paperwork?

Thanks

You don't need a pet passport unless you are planning on returning to the UK.

Transporting Pets-Canada : British Expat Wiki

Importing or Travelling with Domestic Dogs - Animals - Canadian Food Inspection Agency

Requirements
Dogs may enter Canada if they are accompanied by rabies certification, which means they must have:

a rabies vaccination certificate OR a veterinary certificate.

Canada is not rabies free. Rabies vaccinations are recommended for dogs three months or more coming to Canada.
Rabies Vaccination Certificate

The European Union pet passport is an acceptable alternative to the rabies vaccination certificate as long as all the required elements outlined below are included.

The rabies vaccination certificate must:

be written in English or French;
be issued and signed by a licensed veterinarian;
identify the animal (breed, sex, colour, and weight);
state that the animal is vaccinated against rabies;
indicate the date of vaccination;
indicate the trade name and the serial number of the licensed vaccine; and
specify the duration of immunity (otherwise, it will be considered valid for one year from the date of vaccination).

Veterinary Certificate

The veterinary certificate must:

be written in English or French;
be issued and signed by a licensed veterinarian;
identify the animal (breed, sex, colour, and weight);
state that the animal has been in the exporting country since birth or for at least six months immediately preceding shipment to Canada; and
be accompanied by documentation from a competent government authority, stating that rabies has not occurred in the country of origin for at least six months immediately preceding the animal's shipment to Canada.

A competent government authority refers to a veterinary agency or other government agency that manages a country's animal health and welfare situation, as well as handles the responsibility of veterinary certification for the purposes of international trade. The document can be either:

a letter issued on the competent government authority's letterhead, dated, stamped, and signed by an official of the competent government authority in the country of origin; or
a signed letter by the licensed veterinarian who issued the certificate, which must be endorsed by the competent government authority.
:)

Mikeypm Jul 9th 2014 5:15 am

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We went the DIY route and flew transat Manchester to Vancouver, we purchased vari kennels for our cat and dog via an online site called zoo plus so saved cash there. Our UK vet was DEFRA registered so she gave us a letter for each pet stating the brand and details of each pets rabies vaccine, that they are rabies free, how long th vaccine lasts and both pets are in good health and she signed and dated the letter. We showed the letter and brought the pet passports as back up. Everything was fine and it took longer to get out work permits then it took to clear the animals.

Teaandtoday5 Jul 9th 2014 11:10 pm

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This is pretty depressing to read when I think about what we paid to bring a guinea pig and a tortoise with us.

Claren Jul 10th 2014 2:58 pm

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We brought our black lab from Gatwick to Calgary with Airtransat. We had a pet passport and fit to fly letter and rabies cert. from the vet. AT never asked for any, they were only concerned that the dog could stand up and turn around in his crate. We were allowed to keep him out of his crate until the last possible minute. The only downside was that when we landed we had to wait until we had cleared customs and sorted work permit/goods to follow etc before we could take him outside ( and out of his crate) not good when he had been in his crate for 10 hours.
As for the cold winters our dog was diagnosed at 18 months with juvenile arthritis and in the Uk struggled to do long walks without limping for three days after, however here in Alberta with the drier cold he is like a puppy again ( he is 8 years old now) and seems better suited to this climate.

Good luck with your dog :thumbup:

Tootlepootle Jul 10th 2014 5:14 pm

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Originally Posted by Teaandtoday5 (Post 11332245)
This is pretty depressing to read when I think about what we paid to bring a guinea pig and a tortoise with us.

\

aaah,that is too lovely!!
:angel:

Crazyhorse1 Jul 14th 2014 10:54 pm

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If he's small enough he can go in the cabin.

We were overly thorough and had vet do a pet passport, rabies and then of course fit to fly certificate within 72 hours of the flight. $100 additional hand luggage charge from Air Canada.

TheThornes Jul 16th 2014 3:58 am

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We used Airpets and was very happy with the service. Yes, more expensive that the DIY route but it was peace of mind knowing that everything was being dealt with correctly. Leaving the pets behind was never an option for us. Our dog at the time was 11 and was very much part of our family (we'd had her since before the kids). She had 3 very happy years here in Canada!

Young163 Dec 7th 2014 10:18 am

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Thanks to everyone who replied to post. Charlie has now landed in St Johns and has settled in really well. We ended up sending him by Airpets, who picked him up from house, organised vet exams etc, supplied crate and flew him to St Johns via overnight stay in YYZ. The direct flight LHR to St Johns does not have heated compartment in hold for animals, hence the stopover. Would definetly recommend Airpets, very easy company to,deal with and it was so nice to to have him looked after while I was dealing with packers, shipment etc.

Teaandtoday5 Dec 8th 2014 1:02 am

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That's great. Welcome to Canada Charlie! :thumbsup:


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