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the boudiers May 6th 2004 12:07 am

Stupid question .....I know....But??
 
Now before every one starts harping on about it............this isnt for me!!!:)

It is a VERY VERY long story but my brother wants to move to Canada and he wants to know what you need to do it!!You know visas ,money that sort of thing.
Why he cant do this himself in dont know but he is single no kids and is 48.

What chance has he got and how long will it take etc etc.
Thanks for all your input in advance.
Ruth :D :D

mickj May 6th 2004 12:27 am

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Have posted it before, here it is again, there are so many question he needs to ask himself, and a fact finding mission should not be out of the question :

There are a lot of issues to address before taking the plunge, of
moving here to CANADA. I moved over here from London, and i have
made a little checklist of my experience for people who want some
info.

I hope you will find the bottom article useful:

Want to relocate to Canada (From UK)

Disclaimer: I can only give information herein from my own personal
experiences, I relocated from London UK to Ontario in Canada where I
married and now live with my wife. I make every effort to be
accurate in the information I give out but do urge you to confirm
everything with other sources and if you find any inaccuracies
please let me know.



This is the first thing you need to think about, its very easy to
look at another country as a utopia, somewhere that is better than
where you may be now, this "grass is always greener" mentality is
something to be wary of. If you want to emigrate because it seems a
cool place to live investigate this assumption thoroughly, learn
about the country you wish to relocate to, in this case I
specifically write about relocation to Canada and Canada is a very
large land mass so ask yourself where in Canada you are going, this
may already have been decided for you through a work placement but
investigate such things as:

Employment

Crime Rates

Homelessness

Health and Dental

Schools and Colleges

Child Care

leisure facilities

House Prices or Rent

Cost of Living

Laws

The Weather/Climate

All the above need to be considered carefully and its advisable to
use the many resources on the internet but the best seem to be the
local or even national news websites. I could list some but they are
easy to find using popular search search engines and web addresses
can change.


Ask yourself "Why?"

If you have been offered a job abroad that you cannot turn down or
most of your family has already moved then you probably have reason
enough but please continue reading the following paragraphs.

If I was to ask you "What's your reason for emigrating?", You may
answer this quickly and dismissively with things like "the crime
rates lower" or "standards of living are higher" but I urge you to
take some time and serious thought as to your reasons, maybe you
have made the decision on the back of a messy break-up, you think
things are not going well for you so you want to run, this is quite
common, it is genetic that when you feel threatened you do one of 2
things, you stay and fight or you run for the hills, its known
as "Fight or Flight" by those who study human behaviour and it may
be what you are basing this decision on.

Practical Exercise

Find something to write with and a pad, work through the items
below, I recommend you write as it makes you consider more the
responses more carefully than if you type it. Limit the responses
below to 5 items each

1. Write down reasons why you think you want to emigrate, remember a
limit of 5.

2. Write down the things you will be happy to leave behind and why.

3. Write down the things you will miss and why.

4. Write down the things you are looking forward too.

If with part 1 you found it difficult to limit it to 5 then this is
quite a good indicator that you want to do it and have considered it
more than just waking up and deciding its a good gig but look at
your reasons and do some research into your responses. If you
said "The crime rate is lower", "Better education for my
children", "Better employment for my skills", check these out and
confirm that you are not wearing rose colored glasses.

If question 1 you found it difficult to answer with 5 reasons but in
response to number 2 you had way more than 5 reasons you may need to
consider that you are running away from issues in your life and
looking for a utopia where everything will be like a "happy ever
after" story. If this is the case look again at your answers and see
if there are other ways of dealing with these issues. If things look
very bad then discuss with your GP options that may help you deal
with these issues. Don't be afraid to do this, I personally have
been diagnosed as a depressed personality and was on anti-
depressants which helped me through dark times and there is also
things like counseling. If you have difficulty answering this with 5
items or have only a few more than 5 its a sign that you are not
wanting to emigrate to escape bad feelings. I am not going to
comment about if you are wanted regarding criminal activities as
reasons to emigrate or reasons of persecution in your home country.

If to question 3 you can think of a large amount of reasons which
may hold strong bonds like really missing all your mates or you are
very close to your family then maybe you need to consider a less
permanent trip, a 3 to 6th month stay abroad with a return ticket,
on a British passport you can stay 6 months in Canada. If you said
you will miss material items or your local coffee shop then you
probably wont find it to difficult adjusting abroad.

If you cannot think of many answers to question 4 then you may want
to see how many responses you put to question 2, if 2 is high and 4
is low then it could be a case of running from something
or "flight". If you write allot then check out that you have your
facts right about where you want to go and that all the things you
are looking forward to will be there for you.

This exercise is just to help determine if your reasons are good,
Here are some good reasons:

You have had a job offer that advances your career

Most of your close family (Mum, Dad, Bothers, Sisters) already
reside there

The Love of a great person

You have skills required by the country, a desire to live there, a
clear understanding about the country and the culture and funds to
support yourself.

If your reasons are still good and your still determined then we can
proceed...

What's Next?

I would advise that you read carefully the Canadian Immigration
documentation viewable here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/

Documentation on this site goes though things such as eligibility,
funds required and require application processes, depending on your
eligibility level you may have to wait up to a year and a half or
more for the paperwork to be processed but there are other methods
into Canada and ways of applying within Canada

mickj May 6th 2004 12:30 am

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Am sorry, may be this should have come first:



The 8 steps needed to emigrate to CANADA..


Step 1. This is the best advice i can give, go to Canada and research, research, research. Look at the price's of everything from house's, car's, a weeks food shopping, everything. Look at the standard of living and the way the Canadians do things, if you think this is the place for me then your half way there...

Step 2. Start the process of emigrating, ether apply for the emigration form's direct from the Canadians, or work through an agent that specialise in the emigration field.

Step 3. Receiving your forms can be daunting, its allot of paper and allot of information needed. You should allow yourself about 2 months to complete the forms, as it can take time to get all the information, like police records take about 6 weeks to receive after you first ask for them!

Step 4. Check your forms before sending them back, if your not working through an agent, it slows your application.

Step 5. Ok so your application is approved. You might need an interview with the Canadians, DON'T PANIC. Yes the interview is a nerve racking thought, but more often than not the interview is just to check you know what your speaking about, have the money, and wont be a burden on the country. The interview normally lasts about 30-40 mins and IS pain free..

Step 6. The interview goes well, so the next step is a medical and chest x-ray. You will be given a list of doctors in your area who can do this, and you can book them for whatever suits you.

Step 7. Turns out you'll live a while yet, strange with all the stress you have undergone so far!! Now you will be asked for your passports to be stamped with the all important visa.

Step 8. You are free to land in Canada whenever you want, as long as its NOT one year since your medical, as your visa only runs for one year from your medical date.

You should be looking at anywhere between 1 to 2 years from start to finish..

And then you are on the boat, so to speak :-)

good luck..

ClareBC May 6th 2004 4:17 am

Re: Stupid question .....I know....But??
 

Originally posted by the boudiers
Now before every one starts harping on about it............this isnt for me!!!:)

It is a VERY VERY long story but my brother wants to move to Canada and he wants to know what you need to do it!!You know visas ,money that sort of thing.
Why he cant do this himself in dont know but he is single no kids and is 48.

What chance has he got and how long will it take etc etc.
Thanks for all your input in advance.
Ruth :D :D

Dear Ruth, are you sure you want to do all this running around for your brother!!

Anyway, get him to do the self assessment check on the immigration canada site, and if he doesn't fit the criteria there, have him check out the PNP (Provincial nominees programs) for the provincial sites.


Clare

the boudiers May 6th 2004 5:50 am

Thanks loads,i went on the site mikej gave me and all seemed VERY complex!!!!!Thats why i am passing the info on to him and so washing my hands of the whole affair:D :D

i had no intention of doing ALL the running around.......i mean its not like I am going is it!!!!

and why is it that a VERY intelligent grown man of 48 years of age cant do this i will never know:rolleyes:

Any way,again, thank you :) :) :)


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