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GermanytoCanada Apr 24th 2019 9:40 pm

Re: Struggling to get a job
 
In addition to the location issue (which agreed is the primary problem), what PM training do you have?

Many good PM roles in Canada seem to want PMP or see it as highly desirable. In my experience, most UK PMs have alternative qualifications (APMP or Prince2). If you haven’t already, it might be worth getting PMP on your resume as Canadian firms are unlikely to have heard about others.

if you already have an alternative qualification, there will likely be a lot of crossover and getting your PMP shouldn’t be that difficult.

Just to clarify, this advice is only likely to enhance your chances once within Canada.

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Paul_Shepherd Apr 25th 2019 2:44 am

Re: Struggling to get a job
 
I will also reiterate what others have said on here, don’t mention the UK at all…..as they will take one look at the address and phone number and in the garbage your resume goes. You more than likely need to be in Canada for interviews….not all will be willing to do skype interviews….especially if your Canadian address is near to where the job is located they will ask you to come in.

Once you get here….its still going to be tough, it doesn’t work like the UK, its more who you know here, not what you know, but if your persistent and determined it will pay off eventually, its just tough, anyone who is trying to break into the job market here has my empathy, that said every occupation is different too.

Pulaski Apr 25th 2019 2:51 am

Re: Struggling to get a job
 

Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 12675653)
I will also reiterate what others have said on here, don’t mention the UK at all…..as they will take one look at the address and phone number and in the garbage your resume goes. ...

Yup, this! :nod:

When I hire (US), I don't usually bother interviewing anyone further away than neighboring states/ 200 miles (whichever is less) - in other words I won't even bother with applications from the far end of the state I work in.

Siouxie Apr 25th 2019 3:40 am

Re: Struggling to get a job
 
https://www.pmac-agpc.ca/
https://www.pmac-agpc.ca/certification
"In Canada, the IPMA has recognized the PMAC as its Canadian Member Association".

CanadaJimmy Apr 25th 2019 5:24 am

Re: Struggling to get a job
 
Regarding the UK address/phone number - just think about the uncertainty from the employer - they have no idea where you will move to eventually, how long it will take for you to immigrate here (or if you even will be able to immigrate), how long it will take for you to come over for an interview, etc.

Where as if you're in the country, living at a nearby address and local phone number, they know that you can respond quickly, easily come in person for an interview without it being an ordeal, etc.

DandNHill Apr 27th 2019 1:20 am

Re: Struggling to get a job
 

Originally Posted by PB65 (Post 12675526)
Agree with everything said above you really need to be in Canada and also technically with an IEC you do not have a work permit until you actually land in Canada and present yourself to CBSA with the requisite 2 years insurance and proof of funds. Be prepared also that having an IEC work permit which being temporary can be seen as a limiting factor by some companies plus of course there are some who will put lack of Canadian experience in the way.

You say that, but I have never ever been asked by a single employer if I’m on a visa etc etc. They have all simply assumed I can stay forever.

Siouxie Apr 27th 2019 5:35 am

Re: Struggling to get a job
 

Originally Posted by PB65 (Post 12675526)
Agree with everything said above you really need to be in Canada and also technically with an IEC you do not have a work permit until you actually land in Canada and present yourself to CBSA with the requisite 2 years insurance and proof of funds. Be prepared also that having an IEC work permit which being temporary can be seen as a limiting factor by some companies plus of course there are some who will put lack of Canadian experience in the way.


Yes! You don't have a work permit just because you have an LOI - so if asked prior to arriving in Canada to validate the LOI, you can't say you are legally able to work.

My son experienced exactly that, lol, they presumed he was on an IEC 2 year working holiday when he was permanent resident! He lost out on a promotion because of it.. they assumed he wouldn't be staying. As an aside, I was asked to help one person who was on an IEC and who's employer didn't understand it was a valid work permit and who retained all wages earned as they 'weren't working legally' in their opinion - after being directed to some links to the appropriate rules / legislation, the employer paid him in full.

:)

cheeky_monkey Apr 29th 2019 3:47 am

Re: Struggling to get a job
 

Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 12675653)
I will also reiterate what others have said on here, don’t mention the UK at all…..as they will take one look at the address and phone number and in the garbage your resume goes. You more than likely need to be in Canada for interviews….not all will be willing to do skype interviews….especially if your Canadian address is near to where the job is located they will ask you to come in.

Once you get here….its still going to be tough, it doesn’t work like the UK, its more who you know here, not what you know, but if your persistent and determined it will pay off eventually, its just tough, anyone who is trying to break into the job market here has my empathy, that said every occupation is different too.

you can get a job in Canada whilst still in the UK..I managed to do it..the caveat being i was already PR and had lived in Canada for 4 years previously..i did a skype interview..then off my own bat to speed the process decided to fly back to Canada for a week to meet them face 2 face..based on that they offered me job there and then..i think because it shows you are serious and committed.

Siouxie Apr 29th 2019 3:57 am

Re: Struggling to get a job
 

Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey (Post 12677146)
you can get a job in Canada whilst still in the UK..I managed to do it..the caveat being i was already PR and had lived in Canada for 4 years previously..i did a skype interview..then off my own bat to speed the process decided to fly back to Canada for a week to meet them face 2 face..based on that they offered me job there and then..i think because it shows you are serious and committed.

The bold being one part of importance - having a trade or profession that's in demand is another!

IF your trade or profession is in demand that can make a big difference, you may even get headhunted - but for most of those trying to obtain a job while living overseas it's almost impossible.. it can also prove difficult even if you are living here!
;)

Jubbles Apr 29th 2019 10:17 pm

Re: Struggling to get a job
 
Welp the tickets have been booked and insurance purchased. It's scary but we'll be on our way!

Paul_Shepherd Apr 30th 2019 7:43 am

Re: Struggling to get a job
 

Originally Posted by Jubbles (Post 12677490)
Welp the tickets have been booked and insurance purchased. It's scary but we'll be on our way!


Good for you!! stay determined, and it will pay off eventually.....of course you could just get lucky! some do. At least you know what you may be up against now, and are under no illusions.

I wish you the best of luck!


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