Alan2005

It's simple

Degree = more dosh
Masters = even more dosh
PhD = a tiny bit more dosh, but not enough to justify it unless you like what you're doing.

Novocastrian

Or...

Degree = debt
Masters = more debt
PhD = a tiny bit more debt, but not enough to justify it unless you like what you're doing

Jingsamichty

Well, Billy, as you can see, you've now had 4 pages of responses, all of which went completely off your point after about the third reply.

Come back and give us something else to go on to help you, please, otherwise we'll be here all day, and heaven knows where we'll end up... cheese or block heaters or hair straighteners, no doubt.

mohtechnix

Without resorting to cheap snipes, some poster's view on the essence of a good education (BSc or Msc) seems rather myopic. While I am not implying that education is pre-requisite to a successful career, in today's world education serves as a solid platform for a decent career and a good living standard.

Ultimately it depends on what you want in lif. if you want to be a journalist, builder, administrator, entrepreneur etc then you may not require a degree, but if you aspire to be a professional engineer, scientist, doctor, or pharmacist then you will have no chance without education...It's like being the last marble in a game of hungry hippos.

Bachelors degrees differ from each other. No disrespect, but if you studied Fine Art, Sociology, or Psychology in Uni then you will have to accept the fact that your skill-sets will not be anywhere as high in demand in the labour market as the person who studied Oil and Gas Engineering, Medicine, Pharmacy, or Geotechnical Engineering.

januarymix

Yep.

Oink

To answer the OP's original question. Gray, Saskatchewan. Ask for Art.

BillyM

Hello,

Blimey what have I started here!? On a positive note I value all the contributions even the negative but I think I need to clarify things a little.

What I mean by “decent education” is that I completed my secondary education and did ok. I then went into various forms of employment including the police service where I was a police officer for a number of years. I did very well in the police and was promoted to a specialist post (not in rank). I gained a lot of skills and experience in the police and I was commended on the work I did both as an operational police officer and in the specialist post which involved a lot of self management and responsibility. I was tasked with integrating the police with various external organisations alongside initiating many successful high profile projects involving various social issues in the in community. After the police I attended college and undertook various courses which led me into self-employment etc. I did think about doing a “degree” however never did due to various things going on in my life both domestically and career wise.

I have a lot of life experience and I know that can sound a bit clichéd however it means I can adapt to most types of employment. I’m not going to list all the jobs I have done over the years but in each and every one I have always done well often exceeding what was expected of me and that’s the way I am.

I would consider any type of employment in Canada to get a start and my true ambition would be then try and gain entry into the security industry and maybe even the sheriff or police but that would come once settled.

In addition I don’t mind temperatures or severe climates as long as I can get by and make a living and get established. Once this is done I can maybe then look at the various parts of Canada and plan my next move if any.

Many of you on this site I assume are from the UK and you will all understand the desire and ambition to move to another country and the way things are here in the UK and Europe overall I have decided I should try and make the big move otherwise I will never know. I don’t want to be looking back wondering what if; therefore I am willing to take the risk.

I hope this clears things up a little and I do appreciate the comments made so far although I will admit I was not expecting the debate on education.

Thanks again to everyone

All the best
Billy

MillieF

Bloody Good First Post Lad! I hope your next ones are going to be of the same standard.....I once asked a really innocent 'quick' question on bike helmets, and they all ran amok! I hid under the duvet for days!

Welcome to British Expats, you will find a wealth of experience and information here, and the Wiki, on the blue bar at the top is the link to Every form of info imaginable, and of course the search facility of the threads.

We will look forward to lots of questions, as you try to sort out the possibilities for the future.....very best of luck

JonboyE

These things tend to have negative correlation.

januarymix

Better than my initial ones, they mostly got ignored

januarymix

Hi Billy,

Please don't mind the side debate. It happens a lot on forums, and on this one: British Expats.

Thank you for relaying your story in more detail. I wish you the very best in your journey and search.

The good news is you have already cleared the first big hurdle: entitlement to live and work in Canada. For many of us that process is huge and takes years of pure wait time. So congratulations and lucky you are, in that regard.

The other news is that you are articulate, intelligent, positive, willing to work hard, young. I am sure many employers will find this very attractive.

On the slightly more negative side, from what forumites say, the job market is relatively saturated i.e. it is (relatively) an employers' market in some cities. Perhaps not so much in others. And of course depending on industry.

The fact is if you have set your mind to this, then I think you will have to start job searching. Go to the job sites and look: apply, explore.

Then you will know for sure what parameters you are actually looking at. Forumites all talk from their own experience/circumstances and that is very valuable, and helpful, but for your own circumstances, you have to check your own odds.

So why don't you job search, in a few cities first if need be. Then start narrowing it down as you read and gather more info.

Rental prices etc you can search via real estate sites, you can use the search function on this forum which stores years of accumulated/recurring info.

You might also consider doing things like sharing flats etc while you take time to settle in. Moving costs money and at the beginning, things are typically tight.

Best,
f

cjones

That's me and the Mrs. f***ed then.

Dorothy

I certainly hope that as a recruiter/resume checker you pay more attention to grammar in your professional writing.

Shard

Have you looked into the entry requirements for different municipal police services yet? I would have thought that would be a good starting point.

Does security industry encompass basic security guards? I thought those were fairly easy jobs to get hired into?

Alan2005

Typical STEM elitism.