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Hi fledermaus let me set a few things straight we had no jobs in Canada when we arrived and we certainly did not have a huge bank balance. And I definitely did not call any one a liar. And there are loads of jobs out there a lot of them with good wages. (But that also depends on what you call good wages) We had enough money to rent for a couple of years at the very most providing one of us got a job. Now rent in the Durham region will run you anything from $800 to $2500 (So it wont take Albert Einstein to work out the most money we had in the bank).

I drive an old minivan not a brand new car and we only have one vehicle, and we are very happy. We don’t need the huge house and the two brand new cars and the wallet bursting salary to make us feel contented or snobbish. Me and no doubt my wife will work till we get to retirement age and hopefully we will make it through our twilight years happy healthy and financially secure (I don’t fancy the idea of cat food on toast).

And yes we don’t know what the future holds and some people have had a rough time of it, you sound like one of them but you seem to have made it through to the other side. Sarha76 and a few others on this site know us very well and they know what we went through to get here as we know what they have all went through.

We have established that it’s not easy to move countries and that some people don’t make it because they did not catch a brake , they ran out of money before that perfect job came along, they did not do there homework, they where not emotionally secure about leaving there comfort zone ect ect. We could go on all day, life is not fair and we have to play the cards we are dealt it just depends on how we play them.

We think the glass is half full you obviously think its half empty every thing is open to interpretation we are all individuals. I did apologies for rubbing you up the wrong way as it’s not my intention to get on any ones wick, have you herd the one about making your own luck. You only get out of life what you put into it and its human nature to blame every one else but themselves.
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Because we thought it would be better here. You know, some people come on here and say that jobs are easy to find, that all is rosy. They forget to mention until prompted that those jobs are basic wage, that you have to know people to get jobs etc etc.

There are people who arrive, settle in, have a good lifestyle. There are also people who don't. It doesn't mean that they haven't tried. Posts that imply that irritate me intensely.

Re the honesty part, there were at least 2 references to an honesty.

I feel I am going round in circles here.
W never said it was easy to get a well paid job here, Canada is known for not paying the best wage in the world. Here are a few websites to give you the general idea.

http://www.livingin-canada.com/work-...es-canada.html

http://www40.statcan.ca/l01/cst01/famil21a.htm

http://www.payscale.com/research/CA/...Surveys/Salary

We said the there were plenty of basic wage jobs that do help you get that foot in the door & gain that Canadian experience whilst your looking for that ideal job, which stops you spending all those hard earned savings that you come across with.

Don't get me wrong if your skills are highly sort after you can get the six figure salary as my husband did, but if your the 10 a penny Microsoft IT guy then you will find it a struggle to find anything straight away or for anything more the $50k a year.

How long have you been here & what sort of jobs are you looking for?
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Hi fledermaus let me set a few things straight we had no jobs in Canada when we arrived and we certainly did not have a huge bank balance. And I definitely did not call any one a liar. And there are loads of jobs out there a lot of them with good wages. (But that also depends on what you call good wages) We had enough money to rent for a couple of years at the very most providing one of us got a job. Now rent in the Durham region will run you anything from $800 to $2500 (So it wont take Albert Einstein to work out the most money we had in the bank).

I drive an old minivan not a brand new car and we only have one vehicle, and we are very happy. We don’t need the huge house and the two brand new cars and the wallet bursting salary to make us feel contented or snobbish. Me and no doubt my wife will work till we get to retirement age and hopefully we will make it through our twilight years happy healthy and financially secure (I don’t fancy the idea of cat food on toast).

And yes we don’t know what the future holds and some people have had a rough time of it, you sound like one of them but you seem to have made it through to the other side. Sarha76 and a few others on this site know us very well and they know what we went through to get here as we know what they have all went through.

We have established that it’s not easy to move countries and that some people don’t make it because they did not catch a brake , they ran out of money before that perfect job came along, they did not do there homework, they where not emotionally secure about leaving there comfort zone ect ect. We could go on all day, life is not fair and we have to play the cards we are dealt it just depends on how we play them.

We think the glass is half full you obviously think its half empty every thing is open to interpretation we are all individuals. I did apologies for rubbing you up the wrong way as it’s not my intention to get on any ones wick, have you herd the one about making your own luck. You only get out of life what you put into it and its human nature to blame every one else but themselves.
This is patently not true for many people.
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W never said it was easy to get a well paid job here, Canada is known for not paying the best wage in the world. Here are a few websites to give you the general idea.

http://www.livingin-canada.com/work-...es-canada.html

http://www40.statcan.ca/l01/cst01/famil21a.htm

http://www.payscale.com/research/CA/...Surveys/Salary

We said the there were plenty of basic wage jobs that do help you get that foot in the door & gain that Canadian experience whilst your looking for that ideal job, which stops you spending all those hard earned savings that you come across with.

Don't get me wrong if your skills are highly sort after you can get the six figure salary as my husband did, but if your the 10 a penny Microsoft IT guy then you will find it a struggle to find anything straight away or for anything more the $50k a year.

How long have you been here & what sort of jobs are you looking for?
My argument all through my replies has not been to do with our situation but to say that I thought the original post would make people believe that you can fall off a plane, get a well paid jobs so you can have your huge many bathroomed house with swimming pool.

Now people can read in this thread that the jobs that are available aren't well paid, that it is a struggle, then noone is going to think its utopia here with plenty of work, big house, swimming pool. etc etc.
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Hi all I have been one of those guys that has sat reading this forum from the day me and my family decided Canada was the place we wanted to call home ,that was over four years ago. I never posted or joined as I got most of my answers from previous posts and a few holidays we took to Canada. This forum is an absolute gold mine of information and peoples own experiences bad and good.



We (myself wife and two kids) have now lived just outside of Oshawa for a year now (we rented near Ajax for the first year) and Canada has become every thing and more that we all wanted it to be. I now feel that I can pass on some information to all you guys wanting to move from the UK to start a new life. Because it is a new life you are leaving that street you walk down every day, the neighbors you speak to every day, the family that is always there, the city village or town you lived most of your life all the familiar things that you take for granted every day . So do you still want to move to a new Country? If the answer is yes read on and I hope you do.


We are earning less than we earned in the UK but our quality of life is far superior to that in Glasgow. We could not afford to buy the house we wanted in a good area of Glasgow, we now have a detached house in a very quite subdivision. Our two kids are doing extremely well at school our oldest even has a well paid part time job. We did not bring a substantial amount of money with us (enough to rent for a couple of years if it was necessary) as we where the average lower middle class UK family. We both got full time jobs within the first week of posting our CVs, so that meant our savings could now go to a down payment for a house. So we decided to keep renting for the first year then buy a house the second year.


We used Abrams & Krochak yes I know you can do it yourself but we felt it would be better to let them have any headaches than us and the price was incredible (I had approached an English based specialist and she wanted three times the money and she gave us bad advice).You must come out on Holiday a few times as the place is so vast and you can get a feel for it. You have no credit history when you land in Canada no matter what any one tells you, I guess there will be some on this site that will beg to differ. That also goes for car insurance some insurance companies will ask for a letter from your old insurance company in the UK bring it anyway but it will make virtually no difference to your premium (you are effectively a new driver in the eyes of the insurance companies) .So get yourself store cards and even a preloaded credit card as soon as you open your bank account as this starts to work in your favor providing you pay it of monthly.

There is plenty of work out here as long as you are willing and able to take any thing on at first. Our telephone, internet and TV bill is the same amount we paid to telewest, electricity and gas are slightly cheaper and we have a much bigger house than in the UK. Our weekly grocery bill is cheaper as is our petrol bill. We pay for water in Canada and that works out around sixty five quid a quarter (and we have a swimming pool and three bathrooms) our property tax is the same as we paid in the UK for a two bedroom semi in Glasgow. So when every thing adds up we are not much better of financially but we never moved here to be better of financially we moved mainly for the kids, better weather, more opportunities, cleaner environment, spectacular county side, incredible wild life and a country that seems to know how to treat its tax paying workforce right (you get every opportunity to claim your tax back at the end of each year).Me and the wife still get what we call that Canada moment when you’re sitting in the car, store, work or watching the kids play street hockey and you suddenly think god I am in Canada its a great feeling. It was worth all the hassle and sleepless nights to get here and that’s after being here two years.


So quick recap decide you want to do it, do your home work and read this forum
It mite be for you it mite not, but you are the only one that can make that decision.
There is a huge expat community stretching from Ajax, whitby, Oshawa, Bowmanville and I better not forget Port Hope and the ones that are reading this (you guys know who you are) will help you out especially if you move to this area they all have there own stories to tell and have valuable advice for the new family on the block
We all get together now and again for a drink or a BBQ and new faces are always welcome. One thing I will say if you are coming to Canada and expect to get a huge house and a great job with a wallet busting salary and retire at 50 Canada is probably not the place for you .In our experience the ones that don’t make it are the ones who come over without doing adequate homework, or will not just take any job it has to be that very special $180,000 a year job that gives them 6 weeks paid vacation and the company Ferrari. There are loads of them just ask the next flying pig you see to point you in the direction of the $150,000+ job centre. (Canadian employers love this phrase you will here it a lot Canadian experience) So take that job it will get you the Canadian experience and you can move on from there. Canada does have its bad points but the good ones far out way them.



This is our experience and I don’t wish to get into any he said you said garbage that inevitably follows some ones opinion in forums. So be four you decide well I gave my letter to the insurance company and it made a huge impact to my premium, my grocery bill has tripled, my kids hate school, the weather was garbage this summer (ok I will give you that), Canadians cant drive, I never get my tax money back, they don’t recognize my qualifications, I cant get bisto, the washing powder is crap, I am getting withdrawals from eastenders. Like I said this is our experience not yours and yes like I also said we all have different stories to tell. Hope this helps some one, and if you want to know anything and I can help just ask. And for the argumentative ones out there think be four you start to rip people to shreds or shoot there post down in flames ok
Nope, don't think it was ever mentioned that you would end up with a huge house with a swimming pool & a big salary.
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Originally Posted by HairySnotter View Post
Hi all I have been one of those guys that has sat reading this forum from the day me and my family decided Canada was the place we wanted to call home ,that was over four years ago. I never posted or joined as I got most of my answers from previous posts and a few holidays we took to Canada. This forum is an absolute gold mine of information and peoples own experiences bad and good.



We (myself wife and two kids) have now lived just outside of Oshawa for a year now (we rented near Ajax for the first year) and Canada has become every thing and more that we all wanted it to be. I now feel that I can pass on some information to all you guys wanting to move from the UK to start a new life. Because it is a new life you are leaving that street you walk down every day, the neighbors you speak to every day, the family that is always there, the city village or town you lived most of your life all the familiar things that you take for granted every day . So do you still want to move to a new Country? If the answer is yes read on and I hope you do.


We are earning less than we earned in the UK but our quality of life is far superior to that in Glasgow. We could not afford to buy the house we wanted in a good area of Glasgow, we now have a detached house in a very quite subdivision. Our two kids are doing extremely well at school our oldest even has a well paid part time job. We did not bring a substantial amount of money with us (enough to rent for a couple of years if it was necessary) as we where the average lower middle class UK family. We both got full time jobs within the first week of posting our CVs, so that meant our savings could now go to a down payment for a house. So we decided to keep renting for the first year then buy a house the second year.


We used Abrams & Krochak yes I know you can do it yourself but we felt it would be better to let them have any headaches than us and the price was incredible (I had approached an English based specialist and she wanted three times the money and she gave us bad advice).You must come out on Holiday a few times as the place is so vast and you can get a feel for it. You have no credit history when you land in Canada no matter what any one tells you, I guess there will be some on this site that will beg to differ. That also goes for car insurance some insurance companies will ask for a letter from your old insurance company in the UK bring it anyway but it will make virtually no difference to your premium (you are effectively a new driver in the eyes of the insurance companies) .So get yourself store cards and even a preloaded credit card as soon as you open your bank account as this starts to work in your favor providing you pay it of monthly.

There is plenty of work out here as long as you are willing and able to take any thing on at first. Our telephone, internet and TV bill is the same amount we paid to telewest, electricity and gas are slightly cheaper and we have a much bigger house than in the UK. Our weekly grocery bill is cheaper as is our petrol bill. We pay for water in Canada and that works out around sixty five quid a quarter (and we have a swimming pool and three bathrooms) our property tax is the same as we paid in the UK for a two bedroom semi in Glasgow. So when every thing adds up we are not much better of financially but we never moved here to be better of financially we moved mainly for the kids, better weather, more opportunities, cleaner environment, spectacular county side, incredible wild life and a country that seems to know how to treat its tax paying workforce right (you get every opportunity to claim your tax back at the end of each year).Me and the wife still get what we call that Canada moment when you’re sitting in the car, store, work or watching the kids play street hockey and you suddenly think god I am in Canada its a great feeling. It was worth all the hassle and sleepless nights to get here and that’s after being here two years.


So quick recap decide you want to do it, do your home work and read this forum
It mite be for you it mite not, but you are the only one that can make that decision.
There is a huge expat community stretching from Ajax, whitby, Oshawa, Bowmanville and I better not forget Port Hope and the ones that are reading this (you guys know who you are) will help you out especially if you move to this area they all have there own stories to tell and have valuable advice for the new family on the block
We all get together now and again for a drink or a BBQ and new faces are always welcome. One thing I will say if you are coming to Canada and expect to get a huge house and a great job with a wallet busting salary and retire at 50 Canada is probably not the place for you .In our experience the ones that don’t make it are the ones who come over without doing adequate homework, or will not just take any job it has to be that very special $180,000 a year job that gives them 6 weeks paid vacation and the company Ferrari. There are loads of them just ask the next flying pig you see to point you in the direction of the $150,000+ job centre. (Canadian employers love this phrase you will here it a lot Canadian experience) So take that job it will get you the Canadian experience and you can move on from there. Canada does have its bad points but the good ones far out way them.


This is our experience and I don’t wish to get into any he said you said garbage that inevitably follows some ones opinion in forums. So be four you decide well I gave my letter to the insurance company and it made a huge impact to my premium, my grocery bill has tripled, my kids hate school, the weather was garbage this summer (ok I will give you that), Canadians cant drive, I never get my tax money back, they don’t recognize my qualifications, I cant get bisto, the washing powder is crap, I am getting withdrawals from eastenders. Like I said this is our experience not yours and yes like I also said we all have different stories to tell. Hope this helps some one, and if you want to know anything and I can help just ask. And for the argumentative ones out there think be four you start to rip people to shreds or shoot there post down in flames ok
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Nope, don't think it was ever mentioned that you would end up with a huge house with a swimming pool & a big salary.
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No he said he house was bigger then that in Scotland. How do you know he did not live in a 1000sq ft 2 bed terrace? Also, who exactly would bother having a pool if they lived in Scotland?

Also that he did live in the Durham/Clarington region where houses are cheaper then the GTA & yes they had an above ground pool put in for far less then the UK.

In this area you can buy a 3 bed house, with en-suite, bathroom & powder room with a large garden to put a $10k pool in for under $250k, where can you do that in the UK?

Again it is all about the homework & looking where the jobs are & the cost of houses in that area, or the cost to commute. We have just bought out in Newcastle on the marina, we have lake views, detached 4 bed with 2250sq ft of living, use of the club house for free which has an indoor salt water pool, gym, sauna, mini golf, miles of trails, plenty of outdoor play space for kids, use of canoes & boats for free & our house was only $291k with all stainless steel appliances, Rogers TV & internet for a year, $10k in upgrades. Where would you get that in the UK? You wouldn't for that price.

My personal opinion on why people don't succeed here is cause they are homesick, nothing else. The people we have known that have not made it out here is because they haven't given Canada a chance because they miss everything they have ever grown up with & what is familiar to them.
Like hairy's family we are a strong independent couple who do not need to see our families on a weekly/monthly basis. Our parents come for 2 weeks or a month every year & we are done with them for another year! lol

However my sister in-law moved to Calgary in April, & I give up the amount of times she called me crying cause she wanted to book a flight home, cause she missed Eastenders & Coronation Street, Buckingham Palace (made me laugh as she has been their twice in her life) the winding roads & family country pubs. I mean if you going to miss something, miss something decent like for me it was NEXT, sausage in batter or Savaloy or Chicago Town personal deep dish cheese pizza. Although I am past that all now. Very rarely do I go to the British Isles Shoppe for a yard of Jaffa Cakes!

Lots do not make it, but it is not normally for financial reasons as most sell up & bring their equity with them or show the $20k or there abouts what is required. These people know that they will likely have to rent for 6 months & are not stupid enough to waste their savings whilst looking for a job. They are the people who try, the majority who do not try is because they don't want to.

I think most people who have read this post are in agreement to Hairy of his post, so I don't know maybe you are right & we are all wrong.
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No he said he house was bigger then that in Scotland. How do you know he did not live in a 1000sq ft 2 bed terrace? Also, who exactly would bother having a pool if they lived in Scotland?

Also that he did live in the Durham/Clarington region where houses are cheaper then the GTA & yes they had an above ground pool put in for far less then the UK.

In this area you can buy a 3 bed house, with en-suite, bathroom & powder room with a large garden to put a $10k pool in for under $250k, where can you do that in the UK?

Again it is all about the homework & looking where the jobs are & the cost of houses in that area, or the cost to commute. We have just bought out in Newcastle on the marina, we have lake views, detached 4 bed with 2250sq ft of living, use of the club house for free which has an indoor salt water pool, gym, sauna, mini golf, miles of trails, plenty of outdoor play space for kids, use of canoes & boats for free & our house was only $291k with all stainless steel appliances, Rogers TV & internet for a year, $10k in upgrades. Where would you get that in the UK? You wouldn't for that price.

My personal opinion on why people don't succeed here is cause they are homesick, nothing else. The people we have known that have not made it out here is because they haven't given Canada a chance because they miss everything they have ever grown up with & what is familiar to them.
Like hairy's family we are a strong independent couple who do not need to see our families on a weekly/monthly basis. Our parents come for 2 weeks or a month every year & we are done with them for another year! lol

However my sister in-law moved to Calgary in April, & I give up the amount of times she called me crying cause she wanted to book a flight home, cause she missed Eastenders & Coronation Street, Buckingham Palace (made me laugh as she has been their twice in her life) the winding roads & family country pubs. I mean if you going to miss something, miss something decent like for me it was NEXT, sausage in batter or Savaloy or Chicago Town personal deep dish cheese pizza. Although I am past that all now. Very rarely do I go to the British Isles Shoppe for a yard of Jaffa Cakes!

Lots do not make it, but it is not normally for financial reasons as most sell up & bring their equity with them or show the $20k or there abouts what is required. These people know that they will likely have to rent for 6 months & are not stupid enough to waste their savings whilst looking for a job. They are the people who try, the majority who do not try is because they don't want to.

I think most people who have read this post are in agreement to Hairy of his post, so I don't know maybe you are right & we are all wrong.
I have no idea how many people agree with Hairy and you. Its not a competition.

This will be my last post on this subject. I think you are being very insulting to those people who are struggling here. You make it out to be their fault. This is wrong, quite wrong. You may as well kick them while they are down with the comments you make about them,

BTW, I don't miss Next, saveloy in batter, or Chicago Pizza. I presume that was a joke, though as bad one as you seem to be mocking your sister in law for the things she missed.

I am putting you on block.
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I have no idea how many people agree with Hairy and you. Its not a competition.

This will be my last post on this subject. I think you are being very insulting to those people who are struggling here. You make it out to be their fault. This is wrong, quite wrong. You may as well kick them while they are down with the comments you make about them,

BTW, I don't miss Next, saveloy in batter, or Chicago Pizza. I presume that was a joke, though as bad one as you seem to be mocking your sister in law for the things she missed.

I am putting you on block.
hi you should be happy with what you have wish i was in canada but cant as it takeing a long time i would swap with you guys any time coolmum
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Fledermaus you tried right from the start to cause an argument you even felt the need to high light the fact just incase anyone missed it( It did but most people ignored my comments)


Why do you think they done that?


Maybe they can see the post as it was wrote, you decide in life what you take from it, Is it our fault or anyone else’s fault that you believed what people told you when you where looking to move here?

We spent over 2 years living with my parents in a small cottage, working day and night saving to come over here, we spent over 2 years reading everything we could get our hands on and from all that reading and looking things up, we then decided what to believe or not, our choice no one made us as you can see I have been on the boards for a long time, I may not have posted as much as you, but I have also spent more hours doing research on the site than falling out with posters.

You have posted your feelings on the matter, why the need to highlight what other people say? We respect your feelings my husband even apologised.

You have made people see that life can be hard but also my husband has also pointed out that it can be good and the reasons why it worked for us, may be if the only thing people take from this is to do as much research as you can on the area you are moving to it may them help them to decide, If the move will benefit them or not.

I will not post again on this thread, as I am not going to argue with you, But your case has been presented people can now read and take from it as they see fit.


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Is this the verbosity thread? Lots of happy posters, good for them.
Nonetheless, most immigrants are willing to work hard, most immigrants are willing to take any job, most immigrants don't have their health fail them. Still some are unlucky and things don't work out. Fledermaus is right to show compassion towards them. There but for the grace of God and all that.
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Calm down children and allow each and everyone an opinion...... I know we've had ours.
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Default Re: Some advice after 2 years in Canada

Sorry guys but this thread comes across a little like a group bully against Fledermaus for voicing his/her opinion that things don't always go right.

We have the husband:
Originally Posted by HairySnotter;6936884..some people don’t make it because they did not catch a brake , they ran out of money before that perfect job came along, they did not do there homework, they [B
where not emotionally secure about leaving there comfort zone[/B] ect ect.
We think the glass is half full you obviously think its half empty... have you herd the one about making your own luck. You only get out of life what you put into it and its human nature to blame every one else but themselves.
Followed by the friend:
Originally Posted by sara76 View Post
My personal opinion on why people don't succeed here is cause they are homesick, nothing else. The people we have known that have not made it out here is because they haven't given Canada a chance because they miss everything they have ever grown up with & what is familiar to them. Like hairy's family we are a strong independent couple who do not need to see our families on a weekly/monthly basis.
However my sister in-law moved to Calgary in April, & I give up the amount of times she called me crying cause she wanted to book a flight home, cause she missed Eastenders & Coronation Street, Buckingham Palace (made me laugh as she has been their twice in her life) the winding roads & family country pubs...

Lots do not make it, but it is not normally for financial reasons as most sell up & bring their equity with them or show the $20k or there abouts what is required. These people know that they will likely have to rent for 6 months & are not stupid enough to waste their savings whilst looking for a job. They are the people who try, the majority who do not try is because they don't want to.

I think most people who have read this post are in agreement to Hairy of his post, so I don't know maybe you are right & we are all wrong.
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Originally Posted by Sutherlands View Post
...Maybe they can see the post as it was wrote, you decide in life what you take from it, Is it our fault or anyone else’s fault that you believed what people told you when you where looking to move here?

....as you can see I have been on the boards for a long time, I may not have posted as much as you, but I have also spent more hours doing research on the site than falling out with posters. Sutherlands……
And then the husband creates a fake account to add a bit extra:
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This message has been deleted by Biiiiink. Reason: Please don't make up multiple accounts to back yourself up in debates OP, it's not allowed - see site rules
Clearly Fledermaus you are a huge loser who is negative and haven't tried hard enough, otherwise you would have great jobs and the all important swimming pool.
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Old Nov 5th 2008, 1:05 am
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Default Re: Some advice after 2 years in Canada

Originally Posted by Cape Blue View Post
Sorry guys but this thread comes across a little like a group bully against Fledermaus for voicing his/her opinion that things don't always go right.

We have the husband:


Followed by the friend:


Backed up by the wife:


And then the husband creates a fake account to add a bit extra:


Clearly Fledermaus you are a huge loser who is negative and haven't tried hard enough, otherwise you would have great jobs and the all important swimming pool.
Um, actually it was Fledermaus who created the fake account & her who took someones story of how they got out of hear & targeted it. Just a pity I never got the chance read it & neither did the others.
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Default Re: Some advice after 2 years in Canada

Originally Posted by sara76 View Post
Um, actually it was Fledermaus who created the fake account & her who took someones story of how they got out of hear & targeted it. Just a pity I never got the chance read it & neither did the others.
I skimed the post before it was deleted. It wasn't well written so it wasn't Fledermaus who wrote it.
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