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Hipster Contrarian Oct 16th 2006 7:19 pm

Recommend a book about Canada?
 
Are there any books you would recommend as giving a bit of an insight into Canada, either in the way of its history or customs (or whatever)? So far I've only found Beauty Tips From Moose Jaw, which I enjoyed on the whole, but can anybody recommend anything else that might be useful or amusing (Canada-related)? I'm quite hoping that Bill Bryson can be persuaded to visit the place soon ;).

Thanks in advance.

rizwan_fareed Oct 16th 2006 8:07 pm

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Hipster Contrarian
Are there any books you would recommend as giving a bit of an insight into Canada, either in the way of its history or customs (or whatever)? So far I've only found Beauty Tips From Moose Jaw, which I enjoyed on the whole, but can anybody recommend anything else that might be useful or amusing (Canada-related)? I'm quite hoping that Bill Bryson can be persuaded to visit the place soon ;).

Thanks in advance.

How about A guide to Canada from the Lonely planet range?

Fisherman Bob Oct 16th 2006 8:34 pm

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try 'a xenophobes guide to the canadians'

Deadmeat Oct 16th 2006 8:39 pm

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Hipster Contrarian
Are there any books you would recommend as giving a bit of an insight into Canada, either in the way of its history or customs (or whatever)? So far I've only found Beauty Tips From Moose Jaw, which I enjoyed on the whole, but can anybody recommend anything else that might be useful or amusing (Canada-related)? I'm quite hoping that Bill Bryson can be persuaded to visit the place soon ;).

Thanks in advance.

Weeds of Canada & The Northern United States
Richard Dickinson & France Royer
ISBN: 0-88864-311-X

NewWorldMan Oct 16th 2006 9:19 pm

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Hipster Contrarian
Are there any books you would recommend as giving a bit of an insight into Canada, either in the way of its history or customs (or whatever)? So far I've only found Beauty Tips From Moose Jaw, which I enjoyed on the whole, but can anybody recommend anything else that might be useful or amusing (Canada-related)? I'm quite hoping that Bill Bryson can be persuaded to visit the place soon ;).

Thanks in advance.

I enjoyed Canadian History for Dummies, another book by Will Ferguson. You can pick it up from Amazon.

Moving away from books, the CBC website has some good DVDs as well. 'Breaking Point' (about the Quebec neverendum) was excellent and I'm looking forward to Santa bringing me the new hockey documentary.

If you have a good internet connection you could probably spend the long CIC wait watching the archive section they have on cbc.ca.

Souvenir Oct 16th 2006 11:09 pm

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I found Culture Shock to be pretty good. For those interested in learning about Quebec, Sacre Blues by Taras Grescoe is quite illuminating.

SAW 04 Oct 17th 2006 12:23 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 
Hi,

We found the best book for a general insight into Canada is "Living and Working in Canada" by Graeme Chesters and published by Survival Books.

SAW 04


Originally Posted by Hipster Contrarian
Are there any books you would recommend as giving a bit of an insight into Canada, either in the way of its history or customs (or whatever)? So far I've only found Beauty Tips From Moose Jaw, which I enjoyed on the whole, but can anybody recommend anything else that might be useful or amusing (Canada-related)? I'm quite hoping that Bill Bryson can be persuaded to visit the place soon ;).

Thanks in advance.


hot wasabi peas Oct 17th 2006 1:49 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Hipster Contrarian
Are there any books you would recommend as giving a bit of an insight into Canada, either in the way of its history or customs (or whatever)? So far I've only found Beauty Tips From Moose Jaw, which I enjoyed on the whole, but can anybody recommend anything else that might be useful or amusing (Canada-related)? I'm quite hoping that Bill Bryson can be persuaded to visit the place soon ;).

Thanks in advance.

Hi, recommendations from a nerdy Canuck:

Popular

Why I Hate Canadians - Will Ferguson (he's written other books about Canada and Canadians but this is the best of them, IMO).

The Purity Cookbook - not sure who this is by. I mention it cos it seemed to be in many Canadian kitchens... very suburban, Canadian comfort food stuff... mmmmm, butter tarts....

More Meaty

The House of Difference, Cultural Politics and National Identity in Canada - Mackey

Concise History of Canada First Nations - Dickason/Calder

The Imaginary Indian - The Image of the Indian in Canadian Culture - Daniel Francis (One of my favs.)

Contact Zones - Aboriginal And Settler Women in Canada's Colonial Past - Pickles and Rutherdale (For the Fembot. I have it but, to be honest, I haven't read it yet... but the cover write up is interesting :D)

Saltwater City - History of The Chinese in Vancouver - Paul Yee (If I'm remembering correctly, you're heading to Vancouver...?)

Canada's Underbelly, Not Amusing:

A National Crime - The Canadian Government and the Residential School System - Milloy

Richer and Poorer - The Structure of Inequality in Canada - Allahar/Cote

Vulnerable Children - Willms

A Way of Life That Does Not Exist - Canada and the Extinguishment of the Innu - Samson (IMO, this should be required reading by all in Canada... especially 'proud' Canadians. This is Canada's Tibet.)

hot wasabi peas Oct 17th 2006 1:50 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Deadmeat
Weeds of Canada & The Northern United States
Richard Dickinson & France Royer
ISBN: 0-88864-311-X

There's only one weed in Canada.

Butch Cassidy Oct 17th 2006 2:01 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 

Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas
There's only one weed in Canada.

OI

I am not a weed!!!!!!! :p

TrishP Oct 17th 2006 2:02 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Hipster Contrarian
Are there any books you would recommend as giving a bit of an insight into Canada, either in the way of its history or customs (or whatever)? So far I've only found Beauty Tips From Moose Jaw, which I enjoyed on the whole, but can anybody recommend anything else that might be useful or amusing (Canada-related)? I'm quite hoping that Bill Bryson can be persuaded to visit the place soon ;).

Thanks in advance.

How to be a Canadian by Will and Ian Ferguson - absolutely hilarious, totally recommend this book!

Tiffin Tease Oct 17th 2006 2:14 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 

Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas
Hi, recommendations from a nerdy Canuck:

Popular

Why I Hate Canadians - Will Ferguson (he's written other books about Canada and Canadians but this is the best of them, IMO).

The Purity Cookbook - not sure who this is by. I mention it cos it seemed to be in many Canadian kitchens... very suburban, Canadian comfort food stuff... mmmmm, butter tarts....

More Meaty

The House of Difference, Cultural Politics and National Identity in Canada - Mackey

Concise History of Canada First Nations - Dickason/Calder

The Imaginary Indian - The Image of the Indian in Canadian Culture - Daniel Francis (One of my favs.)

Contact Zones - Aboriginal And Settler Women in Canada's Colonial Past - Pickles and Rutherdale (For the Fembot. I have it but, to be honest, I haven't read it yet... but the cover write up is interesting :D)

Saltwater City - History of The Chinese in Vancouver - Paul Yee (If I'm remembering correctly, you're heading to Vancouver...?)

Canada's Underbelly, Not Amusing:

A National Crime - The Canadian Government and the Residential School System - Milloy

Richer and Poorer - The Structure of Inequality in Canada - Allahar/Cote

Vulnerable Children - Willms

A Way of Life That Does Not Exist - Canada and the Extinguishment of the Innu - Samson (IMO, this should be required reading by all in Canada... especially 'proud' Canadians. This is Canada's Tibet.)

Nice collection!! I wanted the Why I Hate Canadians but can only find it for £22 at the moment...eeek!! Keeping an eye out tho :D

dbd33 Oct 17th 2006 2:23 am

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I wretch to mention him but Peter C. Newman's The Canadian Establishment is essential reading.

Please steal a copy rather than buying it.

Souvenir Oct 17th 2006 2:30 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 
There is another book, published only a few months ago, called "What Canadians Think". It is, to be honest, a bit dull, as it is the product of a market research company and is mostly an analysis of opinion poll statistics. It does, however, throw an interesting light on how opinion on various issues differs ad mare usque ad mare.

Good bog book.

Madmac Oct 17th 2006 2:51 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 
'The Good Life' - Dorian Amos

English cartoonist heads to yukon with wife and mongrel dog in tow. Funny, scary and uplifting in turns. Only happened in the late 90's.

http://www.dorianamos.com/goodlife.html - link to his website with piccies.

Enjoy

Polyhymnia Oct 17th 2006 2:51 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 
Ten years ago, a great book called Mondo Canuck by Gregg Pevere came out...everything you ever wanted to know about Canadian pop culture. Doubt it's available now, but if you ever run into a copy, totally worth it for the crash course in Trudeau, SCTV, Can Con, Hollywood North and why we make crap sitcoms.

Souvenir Oct 17th 2006 2:55 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Polyhymnia
and why we make crap sitcoms.

Corner Gas is not crap.

dbd33 Oct 17th 2006 3:03 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Souvenir
Corner Gas is not crap.

It certainly looks to be crap from the trailers. We've never got enough qualudes to want to face a whole episode.

Steve_P Oct 17th 2006 3:04 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Souvenir
Corner Gas is not crap.

What he ^ said.

Souvenir Oct 17th 2006 3:10 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33
It certainly looks to be crap from the trailers. We've never got enough qualudes to want to face a whole episode.

I think you and I have a fairly similar taste in humour. CG is well funny, in my opinion.

dbd33 Oct 17th 2006 3:17 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Souvenir
I think you and I have a fairly similar taste in humour. CG is well funny, in my opinion.

The current trailer is for an episode about pulling down a barn. It's a nice looking barn so I wonder why they want to pull it down. There aren't any jokes or potentially humorous situations in the trailer so I'm not motivated to watch the show; have you seen that episode and can you explain the joke(s)?

Souvenir Oct 17th 2006 3:23 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33
The current trailer is for an episode about pulling down a barn. It's a nice looking barn so I wonder why they want to pull it down. There aren't any jokes or potentially humorous situations in the trailer so I'm not motivated to watch the show; have you seen that episode and can you explain the joke(s)?

I did see that episode last night. The thing with CG is that it's not big-time, full-on funny. The humour is in the little sub-themes and asides. I can imagine that a trailer would not be able to convey that.

dbd33 Oct 17th 2006 3:26 am

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Originally Posted by Souvenir
The thing with CG is that it's not big-time, full-on funny.

That's rather what I thought. I think Jon Stewart has plundered the country of all the funny Canadians.

Hipster Contrarian Oct 17th 2006 6:36 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 
Excellent, I got replies, thank you!


Originally Posted by rizwan_fareed
How about A guide to Canada from the Lonely planet range?

I can't decide if you're hilarious or not so I'm going with "yes" for now :D.


I enjoyed Canadian History for Dummies, another book by Will Ferguson
Thanks- added that to the list (is it an actual "Dummies" book by the way?)


I found Culture Shock to be pretty good.
I'll look for that- not heard of it: was it written by an immigrant?


"Living and Working in Canada" by Graeme Chesters and published by Survival Books.
Sounds a bit scary! Will it shake me out of my comfortable denial ;)?


Why I Hate Canadians - Will Ferguson
Excellent: never heard of that but will certainly look for it!


Concise History of Canada First Nations - Dickason/Calder
I wonder if I can get hold of this over here, because if we ever get to a stage where we can afford university fees (yeah, I know...), I'd love to take Anthropology at UBC (total pipe dream at this stage of course). I'd like to read the book in any case.


Contact Zones - Aboriginal And Settler Women in Canada's Colonial Past - Pickles and Rutherdale (For the Fembot
See above! Actually, I won't quote them all, but all of your recommendations look good: thanks for taking the time.


How to be a Canadian by Will and Ian Ferguson
Ok, this guy Ferguson's starting to get on my tits now ;). Just kidding.


Peter C. Newman's The Canadian Establishment is essential reading.

Please steal a copy rather than buying it.
I'll do my best, but failing that I'll punch the person in the bookshop or something if you like?


"What Canadians Think"
Tumbleweed... :) Actually, that could be really interesting, and I guess it's better to find out now if, you know, it turns out that I probably wouldn't be able to play nicely with them.


The Good Life' - Dorian Amos
Cool pictures, and what's not to like about a guy called Dorian?


Mondo Canuck by Gregg Pevere came out...everything you ever wanted to know about Canadian pop culture. Doubt it's available now, but if you ever run into a copy, totally worth it for the crash course in Trudeau, SCTV, Can Con, Hollywood North and why we make crap sitcoms.
I think I really want this now! (Um, Kids In The Hall was Canadian, right?) I'm going to see if Corner Gas is downloadable: I need to see this for myself.

Thanks everybody: you've bankrupted me but you made it seem like my idea ;). I can't do that Karma thing (that I don't really understand), possibly because I'm on FireFox, so I'll try again in the morning from work.

dbd33 Oct 17th 2006 6:54 am

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Originally Posted by Hipster Contrarian
failing that I'll punch the person in the bookshop or something if you like?

That would be shooting, or punching, the messenger. Just don't give Newman any money as he's a apologist for some loathsome people. Loathsome Canadian people at that.

Hipster Contrarian Oct 17th 2006 6:58 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 
Ah, ok: second-hand only it is, then. Do I definitely want to read this book in that case?!

dbd33 Oct 17th 2006 7:08 am

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Originally Posted by Hipster Contrarian
Ah, ok: second-hand only it is, then. Do I definitely want to read this book in that case?!

If you want a broad picture of Canada I don't think you can discount the rich, the few people Newman fawns over do own most of the country.

NewWorldMan Oct 17th 2006 7:09 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 
Chipping in another two cents worth,

Yes, the 'Dummies' book is a 'Dummies' book, down to the cartoons at the beginnings of chapters and everything. A bit of a tome, but I found it invaluable.

'How To Be A Canadian' was a bit too much clever humour and not enough 'stuff' for my liking. Worth buying just for the cover alone, though.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/i...459601?ie=UTF8

I too bought 'What Canadians Think' but boy, was that ever a dry read??! It's written by two opinion pollsters from Ipsos-Reid and unless you care who Canadians would turn to for advice about prescription drugs, it's probably wise to leave it until the bottom of the list.

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. :) :) :beer:

dbd33 Oct 17th 2006 7:13 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 
Pierre Berton, The Last Spike.

Actually any Pierre Berton. He's a Canadian icon and yet he's readable!

Souvenir Oct 17th 2006 7:21 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 

Originally Posted by NewWorldMan
I too bought 'What Canadians Think' but boy, was that ever a dry read??! It's written by two opinion pollsters from Ipsos-Reid and unless you care who Canadians would turn to for advice about prescription drugs, it's probably wise to leave it until the bottom of the list.

How true. I bought it at the airport, thinking it would keep me amused during a flight to the UK.

hot wasabi peas Oct 17th 2006 8:58 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Hipster Contrarian
I wonder if I can get hold of this over here, because if we ever get to a stage where we can afford university fees (yeah, I know...), I'd love to take Anthropology at UBC (total pipe dream at this stage of course). I'd like to read the book in any case.

You should be able to it's a standard intro to 'First Nations Studies' text (I've seen similar books uni book stores in the UK) but there are others - anything by Dickason, JR Miller or Arthur J Ray are reasonably sound. 'A Way of Life That Does Not Exist' (Samson) is readily available in the UK and very interesting/depressing.

Anthropology is great though it's a bit of a mind-do-er (I was gonna write mind-*****) . :D :eek:

Polyhymnia Oct 17th 2006 6:34 pm

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 
Corner Gas? Well, I've been in Holland for over 2 years now, so I don't know that one. Like I said, Mondo Canuck is 10 years old, so it wouldn't have heard of it either.

The only Canucky thing here in Holland is the Trailer Park Boys.

They list it on Indigo but it's unavailable unless you want it used.

And yes, Kids in the Hall is Canadian!

Piff Poff Oct 18th 2006 1:47 am

Re: Recommend a book about Canada?
 
My hubby bought me 'Canada - A Peoples History' volumes 1&2. Very good - based on the TV series of the same name. Informative and interesting to read - not dull and heavy going.

Also bought Lonely Planet guide to Canada and 2 seperate books on Alberta.

Novocastrian Oct 18th 2006 3:20 am

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Originally Posted by Piff Poff
My hubby bought me 'Canada - A Peoples History' volumes 1&2. Very good - based on the TV series of the same name. Informative and interesting to read - not dull and heavy going.

Also bought Lonely Planet guide to Canada and 2 seperate books on Alberta.

^^^ Also think that's a good start. But this is more up to date.... "Sex in the Snow", Michael Adams.

http://www.amazon.com/Sex-Snow-Canad.../dp/0140261028


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