Tirytory

Yes, he had a permanent job offer backed with an LMIA, and had been working in the country for a year in this job before we submitted our profile and got our ITA. In the documents required for the application was a section on proof of funds with bank statements going back six months.

christmasoompa

People have supplied all that though, and CIC have still requested it. At the end of the day, CIC can ask for POF under any circumstances whatsoever under the good old 'economically established' rule, so they can cite that if they really want.

Siouxie

I'm not sure that it refers to the current job whereby he had originally received his TWP - as I read it, you need that and also an offer of permanent employment going forwards.

Express Entry: Creating an Express Entry profile and requirements for entering the pool

"has received a job offer from their employer for a full-time, non-seasonal, indeterminate job in NOC Skill Type 0, A or B if accepted as a permanent resident."

I don't envy anyone trying to sort through the mish mash of information and requirements..

"The system currently asks all applicants to provide a proof of funds document. If you don’t need to provide proof of funds, you must upload a letter explaining either that you have been invited to apply under the Canadian Experience Class, or that you have a valid job offer."

Tirytory

Yes, had supplied the permanent job offer going forward too. No, I didn't read anywhere that we could submit a letter if we didn't need to, CIC asked us to upload information, we had the funds anyway so we did it. Given that our whole application got refused on the fact that our 9yr old's medical didn't upload properly, I'm not sure I would have taken the chance anyway

To the op, like I said EE is only a year old and those who have PR only started coming through in June/July properly so like I said experience is probably limited.

samnlee

So the proof of funds is 6 months bank statements showing the amount required? Whats to stop someone borrowing the money from family for instance, leaving it to sit there for the necessary amount of time and then returning it afterwards?

Tirytory

It would be fraudulent according to CIC who explicitly state it must not be borrowed.

christmasoompa

The rules. CIC say the money can't be borrowed. Worst case scenario, if they found out somebody had obtained PR with false docs, it could be revoked for misrepresentation.

BristolUK

I've no idea on this particular situation but as a former civil servant (albeit an efficient one ) it may be that the information gatherers ask for it either just to be on the safe side or because they know the job better than the decision makers but they have to "do as their told" and ask because they will just send it back to the gatherers saying to ask for it.

Siouxie

The CIC website says "You cannot borrow this money from another person." so does that mean you could take out an official loan from, say, a bank or credit union to cover this?

Proof of funds – Skilled immigrants (Express Entry)

Snowy560

Siouxie is absolutely right. The system generates the proof of funds requirement for all who are invited. But if you have been given an ITA under CEC or have a valid job offer (as long as it meets the EE definition of "valid" so not just any job offer), you can provide a letter of explanation instead in the relevant slot. Check the link she gave: it's all there in black and white. Or this one: I think it's the last Q or fairly near the bottom of the page:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcen...topic.asp?t=29


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samnlee

So snowy560 you agree that we wont need proof of funds for our PR application?

In any case I have been doing some more specific costing research for Calgary.

We have found quite a few 'pet friendly' 3/4 bed houses with huge gardens in calgary for around $1000 which is the same as what we pay rent for the house we currently live in. Second hand furniture seems cheaper there (2nd hand goods have drastically increased in price here over the past couple of years) We have looked at cars and found an equivalent to what we have at around $3000. I realise that car insurance is more but surely this is offset by how cheap fuel is.

Based on what we have found out so far, it actually seems quite realistic :-)

Tirytory

It really does look like that (at the end of a huge page). We have no test cases though, I think the applicants on here have just provided proof of funds

Car insurance for you to bear in mind can be prohibitive. Think about $1500 a year for one person.

dbd33

Pardon me for being three pages behind but "not expensive" and "horse riding" is a startling conjunction of phrases. Sitting on a horse may be an economical pastime in the UK but, to the best of my knowledge, it isn't in Canada.

Snowy560

I don't think you need to worry about this right now.

If/when you eventually get an EE ITA, you need to meet the requirements of the program, whatever they are at that time. At the moment, if you are given an EE ITA under CEC or have a valid job offer (Note: it needs to be the EE definition of "valid"), the document checklist will ask you for proof of funds (as it does for all applicants). Instead of this, you must supply a letter of explanation in the relevant slot when you are applying.

It sounds to me as if the company Canadian legal consultant is/should be aware of this and if she (or any qualified consultant) is handling your application, they will be able to help you deal with ensuring you meet the requirements (of whatever is in place at the time) which currently say:

"You do not have to meet the funds requirement if you:

• were invited to apply under the Canadian Experience Class, or
• have a valid job offer.

The system currently asks all applicants to provide a proof of funds document. If you don’t need to provide proof of funds, you must upload a letter explaining either that you have been invited to apply under the Canadian Experience Class, or that you have a valid job offer."

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcen...sp?q=1145&t=29

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christmasoompa

But as said above, many people are still being asked for funds despite providing all of this. Remember that CIC can ask for funds from anybody, regardless of job offers etc under the 'economically established' rule. Hopefully it won't happen to the OP, but they need to consider it just in case.