Re JET747s post about Catholic schools
Jan 22nd 2009, 3:07 pm
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Re: Re JET747s post about Catholic schools
Unbelieveable - a thread about "what kind of person shops at Wal Mart" gets taken off the forum but "Catholic bashing" seems to bring all the bigots out. Do you realise what you sound like? Have you any idea just how thoughtless your throw away remarks are? Those of you criticising the Catholic faith, the Church and everything to do with it are the worse when you say you want to find out how to bend/break the rules to your own gain. You want to send your children to Catholic schools because you believe its the best education you can get but yet you'll sit there next to practising Catholic parents at school plays, Masses and parent's evening and lie through your teeth all night.
Shame on you and I pity the environment your children are being brought up in. What exactly are the morals you are teaching them. I hope it all comes back to you one day. It would serve you right if your child chose a theology degree that you'll end up funding or would you not pay for that because your twisted morals wouldn't allow? People have the right to have freedom of speech and that means my opinion counts as well. We should agree to disagree on this point and that be it. I wouldn't come into your public schools and start trying to change the curriculum to suit my catholic beliefs thats why I stay away but same in exchange. Its suits a great many people so leave it alone. Don't like it, don't send your children to Catholic schools. But to be a hypocrite in the highest degree you're neither a maverick or a coward. You don't disagree enough to change things you'd just rather get what you want and moan and disagree behind closed doors. The very worst sort of person. At least have enough scruples about yourself to stand by your convictions instead of hiding. Go away and think long and hard about exactly what sort of parent you are. My name is Mardy Arse because parents like you get right up my nose you're neither one or the other. At least if you're an athesiest you stand by your conviction and your entitlement to your strong opinion which I respect. But a hypocrite is a worse sort of character, come on stand up and be counted one way or the other. Yep, I'm pretty mardy about this subject so either stop your bashing or take it elsewhere.
Shame on you and I pity the environment your children are being brought up in. What exactly are the morals you are teaching them. I hope it all comes back to you one day. It would serve you right if your child chose a theology degree that you'll end up funding or would you not pay for that because your twisted morals wouldn't allow? People have the right to have freedom of speech and that means my opinion counts as well. We should agree to disagree on this point and that be it. I wouldn't come into your public schools and start trying to change the curriculum to suit my catholic beliefs thats why I stay away but same in exchange. Its suits a great many people so leave it alone. Don't like it, don't send your children to Catholic schools. But to be a hypocrite in the highest degree you're neither a maverick or a coward. You don't disagree enough to change things you'd just rather get what you want and moan and disagree behind closed doors. The very worst sort of person. At least have enough scruples about yourself to stand by your convictions instead of hiding. Go away and think long and hard about exactly what sort of parent you are. My name is Mardy Arse because parents like you get right up my nose you're neither one or the other. At least if you're an athesiest you stand by your conviction and your entitlement to your strong opinion which I respect. But a hypocrite is a worse sort of character, come on stand up and be counted one way or the other. Yep, I'm pretty mardy about this subject so either stop your bashing or take it elsewhere.
I suspect the Catholic education system in Canada was very much influenced by the system here in the UK. As a Scot, I'm very proud of the influence Scots have had in shaping Canada, but I'm a little dissapointed that we seem to share a failing to separate church and state in education.
Given that the education system in France is so proudly secular I wonder if this issue exists in Franco-Canada?
Jan 22nd 2009, 3:09 pm
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Re: Re JET747s post about Catholic schools
The thing is, even if you have no kids, paying for the education of other's kids will benefit you in the long term. When you are old and decrepit who is paying the taxes to keep you on life support! The kids whose education you paid for. And they'd better have good jobs so they can pay lots of taxes.
Jan 22nd 2009, 3:11 pm
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Re: Re JET747s post about Catholic schools
The thing is, even if you have no kids, paying for the education of other's kids will benefit you in the long term. When you are old and decrepit who is paying the taxes to keep you on life support! The kids whose education you paid for. And they'd better have good jobs so they can pay lots of taxes.
A good argument as to why Catholics should not be allowed to withdraw their financial support from the general school system.
Jan 22nd 2009, 3:19 pm
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Re: Re JET747s post about Catholic schools
The thing is, even if you have no kids, paying for the education of other's kids will benefit you in the long term. When you are old and decrepit who is paying the taxes to keep you on life support! The kids whose education you paid for. And they'd better have good jobs so they can pay lots of taxes.
I have no problem with paying taxes. I would rather live in a society where people are educated than not. Education is good.
The amount of taxes I pay are more than enough to cover my own life support, thanks.
Jan 22nd 2009, 3:27 pm
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Re: Re JET747s post about Catholic schools
Why do Catholics have this historucal right?
Canada has 3 founding nations. One of which was catholic. That informs and shapes the way the constitution was created. And to be honest it was the British gift to the world of fairness that allowed this to happen!
The brits beat the French on the Plains of Abraham. For the first time in history the victor did not commit cultural genocide. The French people were alowed their language, religion and culture as a right not a privilege.
Be proud of yourselves - and this is without irony - our forefathers "did good."
This planted the seeds of multiculturalism.
Now coming from a country where Catholics are often immigrants (Irish and European) and in the minority it may seem odd that they have such rights over here.
But their rights are a part of the DNA of Canada.
And Canada is the place you want to move to right? Maybe? So there must be some benefit from these events, in terms of the kind of society Canada strives to be - a civil society.
Why do I sterotype Catholics as having 17 kids - well if they don't have 17 kids then the odds are that the non-catholic taxpayer is not being overburdened by paying for the education of catholics.
BTW: In case it's not obvious from previous posts - I am Catholic, from Irish and English catholic roots.
As to Catholicism being a superstition - I'll leave that to another thread.
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Jan 22nd 2009, 3:35 pm
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Re: Re JET747s post about Catholic schools
Nothng is special about "catholics" it's catholic communities that have the legal and historical (special?) right under the constitution of Canada to have state funding for their schools. Where Catholics are in a minority the public board is non-catholic. Where catholics are ion the majority the public board is catholic. In St. Albert the separate school system is non-catholic.
Why do Catholics have this historucal right?
Canada has 3 founding nations. One of which was catholic. That informs and shapes the way the constitution was created. And to be honest it was the British gift to the world of fairness that allowed this to happen!
The brits beat the French on the Plains of Abraham. For the first time in history the victor did not commit cultural genocide. The French people were alowed their language, religion and culture as a right not a privilege.
Be proud of yourselves - and this is without irony - our forefathers "did good."
This planted the seeds of multiculturalism.
Now coming from a country were Cathlolics are often immigrants (Irish and European) and in the minority it may seem odd that they have such rights over here.
But their rights are a part of the DNA of Canada.
And Canada is the place you want to move to right? Maybe? So there must be some benefit from these events, in terms of the kind of society Canada strives to be - a civil society.
Why do I sterotype Catholics as having 17 kids - well if they don't have 17 kids then the odds are that the non-catholic taxpayer is not being overburdened by paying for the education of catholics.
BTW: In case it's not obvious from previous posts - I am Catholic, from Irish and English catholic roots.
As to Catholicism being a superstition - I'll leave that to another thread.
Why do Catholics have this historucal right?
Canada has 3 founding nations. One of which was catholic. That informs and shapes the way the constitution was created. And to be honest it was the British gift to the world of fairness that allowed this to happen!
The brits beat the French on the Plains of Abraham. For the first time in history the victor did not commit cultural genocide. The French people were alowed their language, religion and culture as a right not a privilege.
Be proud of yourselves - and this is without irony - our forefathers "did good."
This planted the seeds of multiculturalism.
Now coming from a country were Cathlolics are often immigrants (Irish and European) and in the minority it may seem odd that they have such rights over here.
But their rights are a part of the DNA of Canada.
And Canada is the place you want to move to right? Maybe? So there must be some benefit from these events, in terms of the kind of society Canada strives to be - a civil society.
Why do I sterotype Catholics as having 17 kids - well if they don't have 17 kids then the odds are that the non-catholic taxpayer is not being overburdened by paying for the education of catholics.
BTW: In case it's not obvious from previous posts - I am Catholic, from Irish and English catholic roots.
As to Catholicism being a superstition - I'll leave that to another thread.
Multi-culturalism is about equality and diversity. The existence of a separate school system for one, and only one, religion is an affront to multiculturalism. Pro-Catholic discrimination is not fundamental to the social order of Canada; we can see that because everywhere except Ontario has abolished it without incident.
Jan 22nd 2009, 3:39 pm
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Re: Re JET747s post about Catholic schools
Multi-culturalism is about equality and diversity. The existence of a separate school system for one, and only one, religion is an affront to multiculturalism. Pro-Catholic discrimination is not fundamental to the social order of Canada; we can see that because everywhere except Ontario has abolished it without incident.
Jan 22nd 2009, 3:42 pm
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Re: Re JET747s post about Catholic schools
I said seeds of mulitculturalism.
Alberta funds the Catholic schools as well as public schools.
In Alberta charter schools get the same funding as publuc schools, and can be faith based. Many are mainly Muslim or Christian in fact
Alberta funds the Catholic schools as well as public schools.
In Alberta charter schools get the same funding as publuc schools, and can be faith based. Many are mainly Muslim or Christian in fact