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Atlantic Xpat Jul 12th 2006 3:57 am

Re: Ralph Klein - classy guy ?
 

Originally Posted by oceanMDX
No, Alberta eliminated its budget deficit long before the big runup in oil/gas prices. Of course now with really high oil/gas prices, Alberta is running up huge surpluses

And having all the wheat and cattle didnt help in that?

oceanMDX Jul 12th 2006 3:58 am

Re: Ralph Klein - classy guy ?
 

Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
You dont think it was a shrewd move to stay in Alberta (where he is 'more accepted') than go into national Politics where we would be laughed out of 'The House'????

A lot of eastern Canadians don't like the idea of having anyone from the west (especially if they are not bilingual) running the Federal Government.

oceanMDX Jul 12th 2006 3:59 am

Re: Ralph Klein - classy guy ?
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
And having all the wheat and cattle didnt help in that?


Hell no, farming costs the province a lot in subsidies. Farmers are always crying.

oceanMDX Jul 12th 2006 4:03 am

Re: Ralph Klein - classy guy ?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33
Steven Harper, Stockwell Day, Preston Manning, Art Hanger, Jason Kenney; Mr. Klein's not a loose lipped nutter by the standards of the federal conservatives.

There is a long list of politicians out of eastern Canada who I can name that are a lot worse.

Atlantic Xpat Jul 12th 2006 4:06 am

Re: Ralph Klein - classy guy ?
 

Originally Posted by oceanMDX
There is a long list of politicians out of eastern Canada who I can name that are a lot worse.

Oh g'wan then.

(Nb. I might have issue with your definition of 'Eastern' Canada).

Butch Cassidy Jul 12th 2006 4:08 am

Re: Ralph Klein - classy guy ?
 

Originally Posted by oceanMDX
A lot of eastern Canadians don't like the idea of having anyone from the west (especially if they are not bilingual) running the Federal Government.

OK
I'm unilingual, I live in the west and I'm not yet a citizen, and I dont like the idea of having someone in (Canadian) Federal Govt who is not bilingual.

iaink Jul 12th 2006 4:14 am

Re: Ralph Klein - classy guy ?
 

Originally Posted by oceanMDX
No, Alberta eliminated its budget deficit long before the big runup in oil/gas prices. Of course now with really high oil/gas prices, Alberta is running up huge surpluses.

Im sure it had nothing at all to do with sitting on all that oil;)

iaink Jul 12th 2006 4:15 am

Re: Ralph Klein - classy guy ?
 

Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
OK
I'm unilingual, I live in the west and I'm not yet a citizen, and I dont like the idea of having someone in (Canadian) Federal Govt who is not bilingual.

Cretien was fluent in neither official language, and as far as i can tell "Steve" isnt that great in French.

Butch Cassidy Jul 12th 2006 4:24 am

Re: Ralph Klein - classy guy ?
 

Originally Posted by iaink
Cretien was fluent in neither official language, and as far as i can tell "Steve" isnt that great in French.

My point exactly.
Well actually no that wasnt my whole point. I mean even sitting as an MP.

oceanMDX Jul 12th 2006 4:34 am

Re: Ralph Klein - classy guy ?
 

Originally Posted by iaink
Im sure it had nothing at all to do with sitting on all that oil;)

Whenever a major industry tanks due to low prices, it is the bane of the economy, not the savour of it. During the 1980s tens of thousands working in Alberta's oil industry were laid off, and thousands lost their homes because the mortgages were worth more than the homes. Prices for oil/gas have been low more often that not over the last 25 years. It's only for the last few years that prices have consistently been high.

Alberta's low tax regime, prudent Government budgeting and business-friendly environment allowed it to survive over the lean times when events beyond its control - such as bad Federal Government policy (NEP) and low world oil/gas prices - harmed its economy.

Sure, now that world prices are high, Alberta has no trouble achieving a huge surplus, but Alberta managed to turn things around even when prices (for oil) were low.

oceanMDX Jul 12th 2006 4:37 am

Re: Ralph Klein - classy guy ?
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
Oh g'wan then.

(Nb. I might have issue with your definition of 'Eastern' Canada).

How about the entire list of politicians who are members of the Bloc and Parti Quebecois. How about Mike Harris' "****in' Indians" comment.

Butch Cassidy Jul 12th 2006 4:40 am

Re: Ralph Klein - classy guy ?
 
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During the 1980s tens of thousands working in Alberta's oil industry were laid off, and thousands lost their homes because the mortgages were worth more than the homes.
NO they lost there homes because for whatever reason they couldnt pay the mortgage.

iaink Jul 12th 2006 4:41 am

Re: Ralph Klein - classy guy ?
 

Originally Posted by oceanMDX
Whenever a major industry tanks due to low prices, it is the bane of the economy, not the savour of it. During the 1980s tens of thousands working in Alberta's oil industry were laid off, and thousands lost their homes because the mortgages were worth more than the homes.

Extrapolating that logic what you seem to be saying is that the reason the Scottish economy has historically been relatively poor is because of all the North Sea oil flowing through it in the 70s and 80s!

Perhaps the UK government should have cut it adrift as the scottish nationalists wanted!

Butch Cassidy Jul 12th 2006 4:41 am

Re: Ralph Klein - classy guy ?
 

Originally Posted by oceanMDX
How about the entire list of politicians who are members of the Bloc and Parti Quebecois. How about Mike Harris' "****in' Indians" comment.

you named one. :confused:

oceanMDX Jul 12th 2006 4:49 am

Re: Ralph Klein - classy guy ?
 

Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
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NO they lost there homes because for whatever reason they couldnt pay the mortgage.

Not necessarily because they "couldn't" but because they "wouldn't". Not everyone is willing to pay off a mortgage when their house is worth far less than the mortgage.


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