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Nuckynoo Apr 25th 2015 3:41 pm

Re: Racist Employers
 
Thank you : )

Pollyana Apr 25th 2015 3:41 pm

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Originally Posted by Nuckynoo (Post 11628641)
Thanks for your response however I did NOT accuse Canadians of being racist ! Please read the thread properly, and to be honest I am tired of sacastic comments. Some people on here a really nice and have good comments and advice to share others are just nit picking and trying to score points on pulling me down for spelling or grammar mistakes.

Maybe your thread title should have been a question rather than a statement then?

dishwashing Apr 25th 2015 3:43 pm

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Maybe she just didn't gramatically position it

No racism, but maybe there is such a thing as overkill .. ?

Nuckynoo Apr 25th 2015 3:45 pm

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Isn't this site for raising questions ?

Nuckynoo Apr 25th 2015 4:01 pm

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I am Mohammed the husband.

Canadian employment office replied to us with this email please read it

Hi Mohammed,


You are not too old to work as a plumber. Retirement age in Canada is 65 and most some people work until they're 70 :0)


I've been in this business for many, many years and to be very honest with you, I'm very sad to say that unfortunately some people are racist. It's a terrible thing and I have on several occasions confronted the employers and questioned them on this...so it's just a matter of finding the right employer. The Federal Skilled Trade Class is not a point system so your age will not be a consideration.


I still think the Express Entry is a very good option for you and worth a try.....you will have to have your credentials assessed through ECA and a qualifying agency. And, you will have to have a language test, but we will advise you on all of that.


Let us know if we can help, and in the meantime I will keep looking for an employer.


Thank you for your patience...

I know one thing about Canada ( its a lovely country with lovely people )
My heart is on Canada every time I look up the country, I feel very happy about the country.

I moved to the UK in 1996, I have faced racism, but it never gave me a hard time, as my personality and my hard work changed peoples opinion about me and people began to respect me for who I am


Thanks ppl

rivingtonpike Apr 25th 2015 4:06 pm

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Originally Posted by Nuckynoo (Post 11628650)
Isn't this site for raising questions ?

Your original question was "is anyone else in the same situation" and the resounding response has been zero. I apologise if you feel put upon, but you're the one suggesting it's your husband's name that is holding you back. People tried, initially at least, to suggest it is more likely your immigration status that is the stumbling block. You chose to be abusive and name call. This forum is full of generally well meaning individuals who have a lot of collective experience. No one was rude or antagonistic towards you until you started to throw your toys out of the pram. The title of your thread is going to raise a few eyebrows before the first sentence is dry on the page. Canada isn't perfect I know, but to infer racism is the reason your husband can't get a job is just wrong. To state only Irish people are getting jobs is, frankly, silly.

Play nice and you'll get a lot of valuable advice and information from the posters on here. Name call and get aggressive and you'll find people are less inclined to take you seriously.

dishwashing Apr 25th 2015 4:18 pm

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I think you will find that Dorothy, not2old, Zoe (a friend), were quite confrontational first in their responses. That probably was a contributing factor.

Not as an excuse, but hey guys, come on - it's not like she came out swinging first

dishwashing Apr 25th 2015 4:19 pm

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Originally Posted by Nuckynoo (Post 11628657)

I know one thing about Canada ( its a lovely country with lovely people )
My heart is on Canada every time I look up the country, I feel very happy about the country.

I moved to the UK in 1996, I have faced racism, but it never gave me a hard time, as my personality and my hard work changed peoples opinion about me and people began to respect me for who I am


Thanks ppl

Hi and welcome to these friendly expat boards ;)

More seriously, you don't have to explain yourself away - I never took your first post as offensive but maybe that is just me

FWIW maybe you don't want the letter from the Job Office guy in case it is a matter of privacy for him - he sounds pretty empathetic and nice.

Good luck!

christmasoompa Apr 25th 2015 4:20 pm

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Originally Posted by Nuckynoo (Post 11628657)
Canadian employment office replied to us with this email please read it

They may have replied with that, but given that the email isn't terribly accurate (i.e. no points score for FST and your age not being a factor), I'd take it with a pinch of salt personally.

It's just one person's opinion, and I'd agree with everybody else above that a far more likely reason as to your job hunt not being successful yet is that you don't have any right to work in Canada.

Also, are you job hunting from the UK? Or are you actually in Canada?

JonboyE Apr 25th 2015 4:25 pm

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Originally Posted by Nuckynoo (Post 11628644)
Thank you : )

Another thing, you say you are looking in AB and SK. These provinces have resource based economies and are not doing too well just recently. More companies are laying off tradesmen than hiring them. It also means that there is a pool of Canadian tradesmen for employers to choose from so making the chances of an employer getting a LMIA next to zero.

As said above, the process of hiring foreign workers changed and it is much more difficult now. Even putting aside government requirements the hiring culture is different in Canada. Most hiring is done face to face. Even before the changes in the regulations it was incredibly difficult to get a job just by sending CVs/Resumes because, if an employer has a job to offer, they want to see a candidate today and get them started on the job tomorrow.

Nuckynoo Apr 25th 2015 4:27 pm

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:goodpost:

Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 11628674)
Another thing, you say you are looking in AB and SK. These provinces have resource based economies and are not doing too well just recently. More companies are laying off tradesmen than hiring them. It also means that there is a pool of Canadian tradesmen for employers to choose from so making the chances of an employer getting a LMIA next to zero.

As said above, the process of hiring foreign workers changed and it is much more difficult now. Even putting aside government requirements the hiring culture is different in Canada. Most hiring is done face to face. Even before the changes in the regulations it was incredibly difficult to get a job just by sending CVs/Resumes because, if an employer has a job to offer, they want to see a candidate today and get them started on the job tomorrow.


JonboyE Apr 25th 2015 4:37 pm

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Originally Posted by Nuckynoo (Post 11628657)
...

I've been in this business for many, many years and to be very honest with you, I'm very sad to say that unfortunately some people are racist. It's a terrible thing and I have on several occasions confronted the employers and questioned them on this...so it's just a matter of finding the right employer. ...

I don't disagree with him. Canadians are people and people are inherently fearful of others that come from different cultures. However, the First Nations aside, it is not a defining characteristic of the country. From personal experience I can confidently tell you that life as a visible minority is much easier in our bit of Canada than it ever was in the UK.

If you want to come to Canada then persevere but try and get over here to meet potential employers. It is much easier to hire a friendly face than a piece of paper.

Nuckynoo Apr 25th 2015 4:59 pm

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thanks , this is the best ever comment I have ever had ,

you are right its better to see a face not a document

thank you very much pal

colchar Apr 25th 2015 5:01 pm

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Originally Posted by Nuckynoo (Post 11627686)

It was the Employment Department in Alberta who are Canadians calling the Employers of Alberta racist! Not me


It was not the employment department, it was one person offering their opinion.

colchar Apr 25th 2015 5:02 pm

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Originally Posted by Nuckynoo (Post 11627695)
My husband has applied for Express Entry but I believe this route isn't guaranteed and MAY or MAYNOT lead to an application being offered for PR.

PS :- Can I just say that they're some replies on here which are confusing. We were not the ones stating that Canadian Employers are racist rather the Employment Agency in Alberta ! They themselves are Canadian telling us as clients that the Employers are racist and are only selecting candidates from Ireland.

Only selecting candidates from Ireland?!?!

:rofl:




Originally Posted by Nuckynoo (Post 11627713)
Please leave this thread your annoying

So you cannot handle hearing from anyone who disagrees with your spurious claims? If your husband's attitude is anything like yours it is no wonder that he is having trouble finding a job!




Originally Posted by Nuckynoo (Post 11627721)
Don't know why on earth I bother when this thread has been bombarded with intimidating comments and accusations against me!


Intimidating? Dafuq are you on about?



I shall not be using this site again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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