Originally Posted by chrisbrockhurst (Post 10048590)

Agreed they are for some and not for others.

Reasons to go for a Mac (laptop specifically)

- Very hard to get a virus - having had PC's prior to 2010 I would get some form of a virus/malware flag up every few months. Since having a Mac not once. Exact the same for everyone else I know who has one.

- Materials & Parts - Macbook Pros are made from one piece of aluminium, drop this and the casing isnt going to break (internals might not not the outer part) it also doesnt warp. I have had multiple laptops in the past that get stress cracks, warp and crack just with basic wear and tear. Very annoying.

- Software (OS) - Windows computers DO slow down noticably with use, it cant be helped, it is because of the way Windows was designed. Windows knows and acknowledges this (new Windows 8 has one touch restore button to re-install basic OS system to restore speed) Macs slow, but it isnt noticeable. For everyday use this is ideal.

Reasons not to get a Mac,

Price - Alot higher than PC's.
Software availability - getting better, especially with Bootcamp.
Familiarity - Used to Windows, cant handle the change

My personal opinion there are two kinds of people best suite to Mac.
- Digital Artists using high end Adobe and Mac native software
- Basic users who Surf internet, listen to music and download/watch movies

Mid end users who use random bits of software and Gamers are not suited to Macs at all.

Originally Posted by Dotty P (Post 10048780)

I could have predicted that my post would get you boys discussing your hardware ;)

Question, from OH of course, what are the equivalents to Dabs and Novatech etc, i.e. where to get components when building a PC and is that the cheaper option in Canada rather than buying off the shelf.......

Originally Posted by MikeUK (Post 10048870)

Depending where your based, in the GTA we have lot of local hardware shops that are very competive on price..

My personal shop of choice is Canada computers

Originally Posted by Dotty P (Post 10048875)

Excellent. Many thanks for that. OH will be pleased. :thumbsup:

Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 10048852)

Using Adobe CS5 on a PC with no issues, graphics monitor, onboard video, calibrated monitors. Does not seem slow,

Originally Posted by chrisbrockhurst (Post 10048995)

How about Editing in Final Cut Pro, Grading in Color and animating in After Effects.. all at the same time? :D

Your right though, with a high enough end PC you can get the same sort of results. Im just saying from my experience, coming from a PC for many years and switching to a Mac, the difference is eye-opening - for some of the stuff I do (see above)

Originally Posted by Hawk13 (Post 10049019)

I guess the point we are trying to make is that with a Mac you don't have to.

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Originally Posted by jericho (Post 10049097)

Getting back to the original question, laptops (and/or Apple products) are cheaper in Canada than the UK.

Originally Posted by Hawk13 (Post 10049110)

Granted. But, I figured what I needed for memory and haven't found a need to add more (may change years down the road) and I keep it clean with most large files (all my photos, music, movies) that I'm not using are kept on external drives. I haven't had any hard drive issues on our three Mac's and asking around the office neither has anyone else (not saying that it doesn't happen).

I guess what us Mac users are saying is that we are willing to pay more to not have as many "issues" with our laptop as you would have with a Windows based PC.

Originally Posted by Hawk13 (Post 10049168)

Same comment as my brother-in-law as he is PC guy that likes to build his own computers from scratch. But don't the majority of PC users run with Windows? maybe it should *nix vs *dows.

I'll still stand by the Mac as way less headaches when compared with PC on *dows especially for people (or in my case, my teenage girls) that just want to turn the thing on and have it work.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 10049215)

It depends, of course, on the intended use of the machine but, if it's internet browsing, email, looking at pictures taken with a digital camera; normal domestic use, then go to Costco, get whatever they have for $500, run it for three years, then throw it away. A computer is just a domestic appliance now, you shouldn't have to think about it more than you do about your toaster.

Originally Posted by chrisbrockhurst (Post 10048995)

How about Editing in Final Cut Pro, Grading in Color and animating in After Effects.. all at the same time? :D

Originally Posted by Hawk13 (Post 10049019)

I guess the point we are trying to make is that with a Mac you don't have to.

Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 10049340)

You have to throw it away of pay some exorbitant price for a tech to fix it, when with a PC it is easy to do yourself.

Originally Posted by chrisbrockhurst (Post 10049342)

but i thought that they used all the same parts as PC's? :p just saying

Originally Posted by Hawk13 (Post 10050309)

Haha - that's priceless.

I concede, all the Mac users just have way too much money to spend and only buy them for the prestige of saying they own a Mac.

Originally Posted by Hawk13 (Post 10050416)

Agreed but most people don't know how to do this let alone get a virus off their computer, so what I am saying is the Mac is easier and more trouble free for people that don't know their way around a computer and just want it to work when they turn it on. My two teenage girls are a perfect example of this as I haven't had to touch their Mac's in three years.

Originally Posted by Hawk13 (Post 10050416)

. My two teenage girls are a perfect example of this as I haven't had to touch their Mac's in three years.

Originally Posted by Hawk13 (Post 10050648)

Like I said, I don't do anything with them so they may or may not have done the updates that are sent out.

I don't think so. Most people with PC's also have some kind of third party anti-virus software or are you saying that with a PC you don't need it?

Originally Posted by MarkG (Post 10048611)

Macs are PCs.

Originally Posted by MikeUK (Post 10049127)

Worth the money if you hire graphic designers, because those literate on non Mac hardware come at a cost...

Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 10050706)

This used to be the case, I think it's largely disappeared now though, all the Adobe stuff for example works on both OSes. It was a problem ten years ago.

Originally Posted by Hawk13 (Post 10050738)

. But you're still missing the point. With the kids on a Windows based PC, I was continually having to work them to keep them clean and running, with the Mac I don't and that's enough reason for me.

Originally Posted by Hawk13 (Post 10050821)

I thought we were talking about personal use and $300 to $400 buck laptops? I know that the PC laptop that I'm on that my crack IT team purchased cost just a little bit more than that.

And they even installed third party anti-virus software.

Originally Posted by MikeUK (Post 10050797)

The point is that a windoze pc and a Mac have very little significant difference today other than price..
What you are talking about is historical difference that no longer apply, differences propagated by Apple media team in order to justify significantly inflated prices..

Do you really think an IT department would lease cheap but high maintenance machines in the modern world ….

Originally Posted by jericho (Post 10050971)

I have two laptops- one provided from my employer, and one I use for random surfing etc. I also have an iMac (as mentioned earlier- I bought it 5 years ago).

Never had ANY issues with my mac.

Both my laptops are under 12 months old- one crashes regularly, and the other is already showing signs of age- slowing down, etc.

The cynics will say it's all Apple PR, sheep-like following, etc etc, but the reality is that in my experience (and seemingly others on here who also own a Mac), is that their performance for day to day use, and longevity, far exceeds that of a regular PC or laptop.
The chances are, those saying PC's are as good as macs probably only own a PC.

Originally Posted by chrisbrockhurst (Post 10050983)

and never will own a Mac because they dont believe us haha