Quarantine for COVID 19 discussions.
#316
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Taken from the Moncton Airport website
Travellers are advised that officials from the New Brunswick Department of Public Safety (NBDPS) are now screening passengers arriving at the airport.
This screening consists of a questionnaire to determine the reason for travel. Only necessary travel is being allowed to New Brunswick for the time being during the COVID-19 pandemic.
This screening consists of a questionnaire to determine the reason for travel. Only necessary travel is being allowed to New Brunswick for the time being during the COVID-19 pandemic.
- All passengers arriving on a flight will be questioned by a provincial official upon entering the airport. Each flight takes approximately one hour to process. Travellers may not access the baggage claim area before they go through the screening.
- The questionnaire consists of standard health questions such as the reason for entering New Brunswick and where the passenger intends to self-isolate for 14 days.
- If NBDPS finds that the passenger does not have a valid reason to enter the province per the State of Emergency, they will be denied entry to New Brunswick.
- If NBDPS finds that the passenger does not have somewhere to self-isolate for 14 days, they can be denied entry or can be ordered to a hotel to self-isolate.
Public health NB announced 4 new cases yesterday. I think this is the most for one day that we've had since the early days of releasing information.
2 cases are close contacts of a new case last week that was travel related and the other 2 flew from Rome via Toronto.
It's believed that they may have been infectious on the flight so the advice is "Anyone on those flights is encouraged to self-monitor for 14 days after the flights took place and to self-isolate if they have symptoms."
But wait a moment...they are encouraged to self-monitor and self isolate if self monitoring identifies symptoms. But they are supposed to be self isolating for 14 days anyway, so if they do have symptoms, that self isolation is already in place.
What's going on?
#317
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YAWN..... put another record on, you seem to be somewhat anti-Canada government so some of us wonder why you are contemplating returning here.. and why you continue to berate others for their wish to comply with regulations with regards to quarantine. There is an expectation that if you want to live in a country you should abide by any reasonable governance.. (i.e. what would appear reasonable to the majority of the Citizens - not the alternative position of the very very few), something you appear loath to do.
#318
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I agree with the sentiment about false hope from the government. According to idiot Tam, even a vaccine will not be the be all end all and we will have to endure this social distancing and bullshit restrictions until into 2022. Originally a vaccine or credible treatment WAS the be all end all from the government and we were promised the restrictions would be lifted at worse case by the time a vaccine was widely available.
Which with the speed and accuracy that they set up the testing centers and other COVID specific precautions within hospital once the vaccine is available i would expect that anyone who wants it will be able to get it easily so not sure why we would have to wait that long, and no scientific reasoning has been provided by the government.
Personally i'm not willing to waste that period of the time living under restrictions that I disagree with, so I will be looking to leave Canada at least temporarily in late 2020/early 2021.
Which with the speed and accuracy that they set up the testing centers and other COVID specific precautions within hospital once the vaccine is available i would expect that anyone who wants it will be able to get it easily so not sure why we would have to wait that long, and no scientific reasoning has been provided by the government.
Personally i'm not willing to waste that period of the time living under restrictions that I disagree with, so I will be looking to leave Canada at least temporarily in late 2020/early 2021.
#319
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Canada is pretty minor in terms of cases and the lockdown has prevented more cases. I'd be interested to know where you could go that you could enjoy your preferred lifestyle.
Many people are having to make sacrifices that help others and if you disagree with the restrictions then what is keeping you here.
Last edited by Partially discharged; Aug 16th 2020 at 9:12 pm.
#320
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And which country is going to take you in ?
Canada is pretty minor in terms of cases and the lockdown has prevented more cases. I'd be interested to know where you could go that you could enjoy your preferred lifestyle.
Many people are having to make sacrifices that help others and if you disagree with the restrictions then what is keeping you here.
Canada is pretty minor in terms of cases and the lockdown has prevented more cases. I'd be interested to know where you could go that you could enjoy your preferred lifestyle.
Many people are having to make sacrifices that help others and if you disagree with the restrictions then what is keeping you here.
The sacrifices you're talking about should be a matter of personal choice IMHO. They shouldn't be inflicted upon innocent people by governments with seemingly authoritarian aspirations.
What separates your attitude from people with "America: Love it or leave it" bumper stickers?
#321
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Gozit is a dual Canadian and EU citizen IIRC so their options are a little wider than most.
The sacrifices you're talking about should be a matter of personal choice IMHO. They shouldn't be inflicted upon innocent people by governments with seemingly authoritarian aspirations.
What separates your attitude from people with "America: Love it or leave it" bumper stickers?
The sacrifices you're talking about should be a matter of personal choice IMHO. They shouldn't be inflicted upon innocent people by governments with seemingly authoritarian aspirations.
What separates your attitude from people with "America: Love it or leave it" bumper stickers?
#322
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Gozit is a dual Canadian and EU citizen IIRC so their options are a little wider than most.
The sacrifices you're talking about should be a matter of personal choice IMHO. They shouldn't be inflicted upon innocent people by governments with seemingly authoritarian aspirations.
What separates your attitude from people with "America: Love it or leave it" bumper stickers?
The sacrifices you're talking about should be a matter of personal choice IMHO. They shouldn't be inflicted upon innocent people by governments with seemingly authoritarian aspirations.
What separates your attitude from people with "America: Love it or leave it" bumper stickers?
Believe Finland, Italy, Ireland and the UK have a 14 day mandatory quarantine period for those arriving from Canada.
Plenty of others aren't open for non residents or leisure travel.
Once your in and self isolated or have paid for tests mandated by the government, you still face mandatory mask wearing, social distancing, track and trace etc.
Whilst in some ways Libertarianism is a positive idea, it becomes different. when it's public health at stake. If you want to jaywalk, not wear ear protection when shooting, take out your seat belts or marry your possum it's all fine, but if your idea of freedom is burning tyres on your apartment balcony or walking round potentially spreading infectious diseases its not
#323
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Whilst I agree to some extent, I think your speculating quite a bit there. Right now, there are less restrictions on travel and daily life in the likes of Germany than there are in Canada.
#324
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*Right now*...who knows what is going to happen in the coming months. Best to stay with the devil you know IMO.
#325
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Whilst in some ways Libertarianism is a positive idea, it becomes different. when it's public health at stake. If you want to jaywalk, not wear ear protection when shooting, take out your seat belts or marry your possum it's all fine, but if your idea of freedom is burning tyres on your apartment balcony or walking round potentially spreading infectious diseases its not
#328
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Gozit is a dual Canadian and EU citizen IIRC so their options are a little wider than most.
The sacrifices you're talking about should be a matter of personal choice IMHO. They shouldn't be inflicted upon innocent people by governments with seemingly authoritarian aspirations.
What separates your attitude from people with "America: Love it or leave it" bumper stickers?
The sacrifices you're talking about should be a matter of personal choice IMHO. They shouldn't be inflicted upon innocent people by governments with seemingly authoritarian aspirations.
What separates your attitude from people with "America: Love it or leave it" bumper stickers?
The bottom line is like it or lump it. What do you expect, the government to stop what they are doing because they may be compared to an authoritarian state, or be accused of restricting people's freedom? It's not like they are imposing quarantine and restriction of movement for no reason whatsoever. There is this nasty virus going around that is lethal to the elderly and ill of health. It's called COVID-19. It's all over the news, you should check it out.
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#330
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You're doing it again. You're creating unverified accusations against a government without any data that supports your thesis. Where is there any evidence that the Canadian government has 'seemingly authoritarian aspirations'?
The bottom line is like it or lump it. What do you expect, the government to stop what they are doing because they may be compared to an authoritarian state, or be accused of restricting people's freedom? It's not like they are imposing quarantine and restriction of movement for no reason whatsoever. There is this nasty virus going around that is lethal to the elderly and ill of health. It's called COVID-19. It's all over the news, you should check it out.
The bottom line is like it or lump it. What do you expect, the government to stop what they are doing because they may be compared to an authoritarian state, or be accused of restricting people's freedom? It's not like they are imposing quarantine and restriction of movement for no reason whatsoever. There is this nasty virus going around that is lethal to the elderly and ill of health. It's called COVID-19. It's all over the news, you should check it out.
No matter how you want to try and spin it, forcing people into house arrest without charge is authoritarianism. When Aung San Suu Kyi was forced into home detention and self isolation in Myanmar, the regime made the argument that it was for the greater public good.
Last edited by DigitalGhost; Aug 16th 2020 at 10:13 pm.