DigitalGhost

It is until you realise you cannot leave the state, let alone the country. For a country with a larger per capita immigrant population than Canada, it's at best a strange kind of faux normal.

I think of Australia atm like one of those settlements in the walking dead where they build a fence to keep out the horde and then pretend like nothing ever changed in the world. It's all well and good to build a bubble like that until you realise your life is no more real than Disneyland and you're only ever one broken plank away from disaster.

And although I'm no epidemiologist, based on basic maths and logic, I would have thought it could be a disaster. Unlike North America and Europe, Australia will have a very low level of immunity amongst its population. They're taking a very nonchalant attitude towards vaccination as well which suggests they have zero desire to open up beyond the NZ bubble for the foreseeable future.

BEVS

Yes. That is pretty much it. Normal day to day life really. Yes, there is a difficulty re overseas travel due to the out of control pandemic in other places around the globe, but the majority of folk were not flitting here there and everywhere before the pandemic. They were living their lives on home turf with maybe a couple of trips a year or so if $ allowed & they still are.

Perhaps the distance from the NH as opposed to being up in the NH is a part of how it is all viewed. We're not hopping to London and the like. It is a major long haul.
Better to have normal home life and some travel than all sorts of bother + major worries that covid is waiting to ambush from anywhere at any time.
he wouldn't do as he does.

As always and as I have written to Boiler many times in the past, I do wish he would desist and resist. OK for TIO maybe but even then folks get a bit cheesed orf.

Siouxie

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Jerseygirl

The off topic posts re Australia have been moved into a separate thread in TIO. Please post further remarks here...

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Jerseygirl

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scrubbedexpat091

Article that popped up today, patients who go to the US for cancer treatment want some exemptions from the quarantine rules. Sounds like they receive treatments in a trial that is not available in Canada (I imagine if it were available here they wouldn't be travelling), and have to travel to Los Angeles for it on a regular basis.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...tine-1.5895687

DigitalGhost

I doubt there could be many better examples of essential travel than that.

DigitalGhost

So according to this article and the government sources they quote, it is only going to be for non-essential travellers. People entering for work, essential purposes or refuge would be exempt. I have to admit, I did wonder how they would go about enforcing it on refugees but I guess it's just a case of waiting for the official government info.

https://ipolitics.ca/2021/01/29/migr...to-quarantine/

ChrisBan

What’s the consensus on the “quarantine plan” element of flying in; do I have to have this written down on a piece of paper or can I literally just say what my plan is when asked?

DigitalGhost

No, you just answer questions when asked. If you have any documents to prove it then that obviously wouldn't hurt but they just want to make sure you have somewhere to go and won't be mingling in society for the next fortnight.

It's all going to depend on your own circumstances really. If you own a house in Canada and live there alone then you're likely to face slightly less scrutiny than a returning international student who normally lives in a shared residence.

ChrisBan

ok thanks just me overthinking things as usual. I own my house and my partner will not be there while I’m quarantining, she’s stocked me up on beer and food so should be all good.

DigitalGhost

You'd be fine then. Just provide that address on ArriveCan and have a plan for how you intend on getting there just in case they ask and I can't see anybody having a problem with it. When are you planning to return?

Gozit

According to the government travelling to care for a seriously ill or dying family member is considered essential so do I qualify for an exemption from the $2,000 charge?

DigitalGhost

And that's the question really. How do they go about enforcing it if it's only for non-essential travel?

They've already said they have no plans to introduce it at the land borders at present so many of the snow birds who contributed to much of the situation in the first place will end to getting away with it.

Revin Kevin

The press release says "“The quarantine measures announced today are for travellers that are flying for vacation reasons.” so it would seem anyone coming to work or in the process of moving over would be exempt the $2000? If that's the case then this is actually good news - well if it applies to travellers from the UK.