bats

in practice though there isn't much about. A friend has been frantically looking after being let down. One of the cheapestvwas a Motel 6 room.

Siouxie

Where are they looking - and when for? Price is a factor, of course.. I found dozens that were available using different web sites (nor just Airbnb)

Gozit

I'm going to disagree with attempting to break the law because the consequences are just not worth it. It's not like a traffic ticket or parking ticket where you pay a fine and you're on your way or i'm sure there would be lots of people flouting the quarantine laws. I agree that it is a little autocratic in nature (especially now that the majority of Europe and USA have relaxed quarantine laws in place of rapid testing) but it is something that virtually all countries did from March until June when it started relaxing, and that is where Canada is lagging behind.

I agree though I don't understand certain people's attitude or they give you the cold shoulder for having a different opinion or merely suggesting the fact that there could be an alternative to the 14 day quarantine. FWIW I understand and respect why most people would agree with it - it seems like a "safe" option, and travel just isn't as important to most Canadians as it is to most of us on here who have homes and hearts in more than one place and have had the privilege to see and live in more than one country.

A good chunk of people I know do not even have a valid passport or have travelled outside the country in the last 5 years, so it's just a low priority issue for them whereas for people like you and I it is a high priority issue.

As a culture Canadians do not travel as much as Brits or Europeans do.

Siouxie

I'm so glad that CBSA Officers and IRCC Officers read and watch this forum and others (yes, they know which ones to watch) -- hopefully they will be on the lookout for those who talk about flouting the Canadian Government Regulations when it comes to quarantine.. they have ways and means of identifying people from the information they put out in the public eye.

I hardly think comparing people letting authorities know about someone coming into Canada and deliberately and willfully (without due reason) flouting the regulations and who could potentially be a carrier of Covid 19 - which could infect hundreds - is the same as someone 'reporting to Gestapo-style Stasi officers' or Communist countries of old. Overkill on Drama anyone?

Gozit

Yeah, I agree with you. Disagreeing with the law is one thing, breaking it is another given the consequences. I vehemently disagree with the mandatory quarantine but I will follow it if I choose to travel while it is in effect.

BristolUK

I keep reading that this state and that state is announcing the highest numbers of cases/deaths in months and I keep reading that one European country after another is possibly entering second waves where they are taking it in turns to similarly announce highest number of cases/deaths since months ago.

I can't help but wonder if there's a connection between these worrying increases in numbers and relaxed quarantine restrictions.

Gozit

That's fair. I would say that most of the places experiencing this "second wave" (including the province of BC) would also say that cases are up BUT hospitalisations/deaths are not. That's because the age bracket of 18-39 are the most common carrier in the new cases due to pandemic/social distancing fatigue. I don't think the increase is due to lack of travel restrictions moreso lack of people following distancing/masking, and in some places (eg Malta) where the government cancelled all restrictions and mass chaos ensued.

Siouxie

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bats

oh it's sorted and done but anywhere within a 3 or 4 hour drive from Kingston. There were many of us on the case, looking. Interestingly she was never offered govt accomodation.

BristolUK

My mate back in England has been reviewing his nights out on the "eat out to help out" scheme (bloody skinflint) on his blog.
One restaurant handled it all as it should but the other places he went to - including pubs - sound like business as usual as in pre-pandemic days.
It may be a bit of both - pandemic fatigue and complete disregard of the conditions advised to be able to open.

Of course, what the 18-39 people 'do' with it once picked up is the potential problem.

i_Seeker

Don't mistake my support of the quarantine with being in favour of it. I didn't like being in quarantine, and would rather have not done it. Having a two-year-old son made it worse. But, we prepared and spent more money (more than what we were comfortable paying) on a bigger property to stay at for 2 weeks. It made a huge difference in staying in a big house. My wallet is still in intensive care recovering from from the cost of the Airbnb, but it was worth it.

Perhaps you may want to hold off coming and save a little more money, that way you can afford a bigger property?

Where you and I differ in opinion, is when it comes to your willingness to flout the law for [insert any reason you feel justifies breaking the law].

Where I do agree with you is the fact that the government may want to be more upfront with their plans for restricting the movement of people. I understand it's hard as they are playing a political tight rope with the US administration, and their stats on COVID which require improvement. It would nice to be told how long the measures will be in place, instead of extending the travel ban every month. While I doubt it will be permanent, I'm worried it may be many many months.

I want to go back home for Christmas, and my family would like to come here and visit. It doesn't look like any of those scenarios will happen this year.

Revin Kevin

How would a hotel room work for meals etc, surely you need to have self catering accomodation.

bats

Many hotels have kitchenettes in the rooms but you usually get a microwave and fridge. You can get food and groceries delivered.

spouse of scouse

Your repetitive self-indulgent whinging has become incredibly tiresome. Go away.

Siouxie

MIght be difficult getting back to the UK without having to quarantine there now as well for some previously 'safe' countries - how will certain people manage that, I wonder - by deciding to disregard the rules or evade the authorities there too?
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