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Knomski Aug 3rd 2020 12:00 am

Qualifications transferable?
 
Hi there,

I am looking for some information regarding my qualifications and whether they are transferable to Canada. I have a first class Bachelors degree in midwifery and a postgraduate diploma at masters level as a community public health nurse specialising in maternal and child health and development (health visitor). I am currently registered in both roles. Would these qualifications allow me to work in a nursing role in Canada since I don’t have a RN qualification? Are there any similar roles that I would be able to apply for? I would appreciate any advice you can share as I have been here unable to find any answer so far.

Many thanks

Siouxie Aug 3rd 2020 1:24 am

Re: Qualifications transferable?
 
Hello again :)

Perhaps revisit your earlier thread.. https://britishexpats.com/forum/cana...nition-918275/
:)

Knomski Aug 3rd 2020 1:07 pm

Re: Qualifications transferable?
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12891381)
Hello again :)

Perhaps revisit your earlier thread.. https://britishexpats.com/forum/cana...nition-918275/
:)

hi thanks for linking my previous thread. However my question in regard to my qualifications wasn’t answered so I thought I’d try again to see if anyone with any knowledge in this area could give any insight since this is what the forum is for🙂

Knomski Aug 3rd 2020 1:22 pm

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Not to worry I have found a very informative nursing thread on here:)

Shakyuk Aug 4th 2020 4:03 pm

Re: Qualifications transferable?
 

Originally Posted by Knomski (Post 12891367)
Would these qualifications allow me to work in a nursing role in Canada since I don’t have a RN qualification?

The short answer is no, you must be a registered nurse to work as one in Canada.

The long answer: Your qualifications and experience will gain you entry to the Express Entry skilled worker route for a permanent residency visa, I'd research that and aim to come out here with PR. I've known many who came out on temporary visas and every one of them has regretted not doing the work to get PR whilst in the UK - this has and continues to be a major point of stress for some of them, especially with covid.

Before you come out here you can start the RN qualification process, get yourself assessed and they'll tell you what you need to do (there are multiple threads on this forum regarding this).

This is entirely my opinion but from what I have read (I have read a lot as my girlfriend is a nurse but isn't very proactive) your qualifications look like they would be recognised, but they wouldn't be enough to qualify you for the RN exam. I'd expect you'll be told to do a bridging program for modules like surgical, mental health and maybe some other areas and a placement. Costs will vary which is why it's worth starting this before you arrive, then you can see if it's worth it.

My girlfriend was a mental health nurse in the UK, she was told to do a bridging program which is 4 assignment based modules and a placement (250ish hours I think), total cost is probably around $2000 plus the loss of income caused by doing a placement. Once she has completed this she should qualify to sit the exam.


Originally Posted by Knomski (Post 12891367)
Are there any similar roles that I would be able to apply for? I would appreciate any advice you can share as I have been here unable to find any answer so far.

There are healthcare aide jobs ($19 ish per hour), community based jobs (use your own car , $22 to $33 ish per hour) and drug and alcohol abuse clinics ($19+ per hour) which take on people who have nursing type backgrounds. Canada loves qualifications (they have bartender qualifications ;)) and many of these jobs have a specific qualification but some of these jobs will accept your UK qualifications. Finding a full time position is difficult in this sector, seniority is everything, expect to register at multiple sites in casual positions on zero hour contracts. It took my girlfriend 6 or 7 months before she got full time as a healthcare aide and this was seen as VERY lucky.

This sounds negative but I don't want you thinking it'll be a walk in the park - is it worth the trouble? For us, 100% yes.

Knomski Aug 4th 2020 4:14 pm

Re: Qualifications transferable?
 

Originally Posted by Shakyuk (Post 12892318)
The short answer is no, you must be a registered nurse to work as one in Canada.

The long answer: Your qualifications and experience will gain you entry to the Express Entry skilled worker route for a permanent residency visa, I'd research that and aim to come out here with PR. I've known many who came out on temporary visas and every one of them has regretted not doing the work to get PR whilst in the UK - this has and continues to be a major point of stress for some of them, especially with covid.

Before you come out here you can start the RN qualification process, get yourself assessed and they'll tell you what you need to do (there are multiple threads on this forum regarding this).

This is entirely my opinion but from what I have read (I have read a lot as my girlfriend is a nurse but isn't very proactive) your qualifications look like they would be recognised, but they wouldn't be enough to qualify you for the RN exam. I'd expect you'll be told to do a bridging program for modules like surgical, mental health and maybe some other areas and a placement. Costs will vary which is why it's worth starting this before you arrive, then you can see if it's worth it.

My girlfriend was a mental health nurse in the UK, she was told to do a bridging program which is 4 assignment based modules and a placement (250ish hours I think), total cost is probably around $2000 plus the loss of income caused by doing a placement. Once she has completed this she should qualify to sit the exam.



There are healthcare aide jobs ($19 ish per hour), community based jobs (use your own car , $22 to $33 ish per hour) and drug and alcohol abuse clinics ($19+ per hour) which take on people who have nursing type backgrounds. Canada loves qualifications (they have bartender qualifications ;)) and many of these jobs have a specific qualification but some of these jobs will accept your UK qualifications. Finding a full time position is difficult in this sector, seniority is everything, expect to register at multiple sites in casual positions on zero hour contracts. It took my girlfriend 6 or 7 months before she got full time as a healthcare aide and this was seen as VERY lucky.

This sounds negative but I don't want you thinking it'll be a walk in the park - is it worth the trouble? For us, 100% yes.


thanks so so much for your insight, it has been invaluable! I would love to go down the pr route but my score is relatively low due to age (39) I did consider coming on a study permit in the hole that this would then increase my crs :/

christmasoompa Aug 4th 2020 4:20 pm

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Originally Posted by Knomski (Post 12892331)
thanks so so much for your insight, it has been invaluable! I would love to go down the pr route but my score is relatively low due to age (39) I did consider coming on a study permit in the hole that this would then increase my crs :/

Studying in Canada would give you extra points, but it's a blooming expensive way to get your points up! Might be worth posting in the visa subsection with your points and a breakdown of them to see if anybody can find another way to get the points up to the required level.

Best of luck.

abstractprojection Aug 20th 2020 9:40 pm

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I've heard of recruiters actively trying to recruit graduate nurses from the UK to Canada. It might be worth seeing if you can find any in the UK, in normal times I believe there are fairs aimed at graduates but I'm sure you could still go though I doubt there will be any soon with Covid, maybe contacting your universities alumni services might be an idea to see if they can put you in touch with contacts they may have

JoTcanada Sep 1st 2020 3:43 pm

Re: Qualifications transferable?
 

Originally Posted by Knomski (Post 12891367)
Hi there,

I am looking for some information regarding my qualifications and whether they are transferable to Canada. I have a first class Bachelors degree in midwifery and a postgraduate diploma at masters level as a community public health nurse specialising in maternal and child health and development (health visitor). I am currently registered in both roles. Would these qualifications allow me to work in a nursing role in Canada since I don’t have a RN qualification? Are there any similar roles that I would be able to apply for? I would appreciate any advice you can share as I have been here unable to find any answer so far.

Many thanks

Hiya,
It seems we are in the same boat. I am a RM /SCPHN Currently working as a health visitor in UK. I aim to transfer to a similar role in Canada and have seen roles that match my skill set and are ultimately a health visiting role, however it seems getting our qualifications recognised will be tricky. Although I don't intend to work as a RM in Canada it seems because my degree in midwifery has the most leverage and may have to go through the midwifery route before getting roles in Community nursing.

I would really appreciate any resources you have found along the way. My dream of immigrating to CA is seeming further and further away!!

peeshpie Sep 30th 2020 5:27 am

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Hello,

I think I may have replied to your thread on another page.
I came to Calgary in 2014 and completed the Bridge to Canadian Nursing Program in 10 months (pre NNAS).
I had applied for a study permit and my husband was issued with a Spousal Open Work Permit. He got a full time job in healthcare (he was an NHS Manager).
I was a Health Visitor in the UK. I have not gone into public health here - it’s tricky, you have to gain ‘seniority’ in the workforce. You get that by getting a line (usually start off in a casual job then apply for temporary jobs/permanent).
I started off in a casual job on a medical unit - pretty much a shock to the system but I survived. I’m now in an ER working as a Transition Services nurse.
It is possible to realize your ambition to come to Canada but it is a labour of love. We sold our house and quit our jobs, arrived with 4 suitcases and a few boxes of belongings arrived six weeks later. I was 45, my husband was 42 yrs old, the kids were 10 and 14 at the time. We didn’t have enough points for Express Entry if we had applied from the UK.
Once we applied for PR here we did it through the Provincial Nomination Program (PNP) and my husband was the principal applicant as he had a full time job and Canadian work experience.
I don’t regret it at all! Nothing ventured, nothing gained!

Laois

peeshpie Sep 30th 2020 5:39 am

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And studying in Canada is an expensive way to get your points up as per previous advice. But, you get to be here - test out if you like it, if it’s for you?
I was one of 60 nurses on the bridging program and there were only 3 of us from the UK. Many more were from other countries (India, Nepal, Phillippines, Eastern Europe, USA). I think the cost was $3000 - $4000 approx.
I did meet a nurse from UK who went through NNAS and had to do clinical hours and a theory program but I think she came through Grant MacEwan University in Edmonton (her clinical placement was in Calgary, distance learning for the theory) but she already had PR.
Midwives are fairly new to Alberta (program at Mount Royal University has been running for a few years). They practise independently and have admitting rights to hospitals where their patients deliver. RN’s work in post partum/labor and delivery.
HTH.


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