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Originally posted by jeannie They dont say please or thanks in Ontario....what sort of a crowd do you hang with?...it's done here all the time......:D I think it might have something to do with the American culture creeping into other cultures. That is why you are living in BC, and not in Ontario :rolleyes: Its a london thing for me to say please and cheers, kind of like inbred, if you know what i mean? cheers l8r |
"I'd like to pay, please" is universally understood and culture non-specific ..... works every time.
Politeness - Canada seems to have retained some people who know what it means which is more than can be said for the UK these days. It's a pleasure, too, to go into a store and have the clerks break off their conversations to see if they can serve you instead of being totally ignored. I know - crude generalisations - but on the whole I think Canada is a whole lot more polite and considerate than the me-first Britain Mrs Thatcher and Mr Major created for us. Interestingly, I have noticed that I seem to be the only person who holds doors open for women but it was pointed out to me that it's not rudeness here that prevents people doing so, it's a well founded fear of being thought a sexist patronising male. |
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Originally posted by ptlabs Iain, I was in Vancouver for a total of 10 weeks last year, and found that people there were generally very polite. The Canadian customs and immigration officers were much better than their U.S. counterparts in terms of minding their manners. Peter I hope you went to Whistler, Grouse Mountain, Granvill Market, :D |
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Originally posted by s1lv3rsh4dow Am not the hanging around type, its just unfortunate that people in the GTA, from different countries and backgrounds of course, are not used to saying that wherever they came from. I think it might have something to do with the American culture creeping into other cultures. That is why you are living in BC, and not in Ontario :rolleyes: Its a london thing for me to say please and cheers, kind of like inbred, if you know what i mean? cheers l8r As a married woman with a family and with many friends from all walks of life, The only culture allowed in my house is the one we allow. and in my house i admit you better be bloody polite..:) Just a little laugh.... my hubby was asked once you have such nice polite kids what's the secret he said, "because my wife will kick ass take names and count the dead if there not... lol.....:D |
Originally posted by souls canuck yes, been in toronto all my life. in the media it seems that canadians are branded as friendly and nice.. I think that is true to a point, however in toronto I have found more and more, rudeness.. noone opens doors, or even holds it for longer then 2 seconds.. not too long ago at work, freezing cold.. minus 25.. I was walking towards the door.. a woman was walkign out.. stared me straight in the face and then let the door slam behind her.. I said "gee, thanks" and she marched off.. I was stunned, still am, at how inconsiderate people are.. even at work. I hold the door for someone almost every day.. is it so hard? nope. a few thoughts Not here too long but I have noticed the lack of manners SOMETIMES although this seems to be maybe cultural in that people from some societies may not be used to respond in a certain manner to certain, situations but thats okay. having said this (hope its not "un PC") i have found that the vast majority of folk I have met in Toronto have been more than polite. they DO hold doors open For me or my wife and kids and we respond etc. Please and thankyou are usually said And we have even noticed some people will go out of thier way to help! Most Torontonians are extremely polite and make very good neighbours. Okay there are also the $%^&holes who cut you up but there everywhere OK? I still maintain Its no bad thing to keep being polite even in the face of adversity (it dosent really cost much) and it does send out signals that all people from our part of the globe are not all bad. just my thoughts |
Originally posted by Big Kieran Hi Souls Canuck a few thoughts Not here too long but I have noticed the lack of manners SOMETIMES although this seems to be maybe cultural in that people from some societies may not be used to respond in a certain manner to certain, situations but thats okay. having said this (hope its not "un PC") i have found that the vast majority of folk I have met in Toronto have been more than polite. they DO hold doors open For me or my wife and kids and we respond etc. Please and thankyou are usually said And we have even noticed some people will go out of thier way to help! Most Torontonians are extremely polite and make very good neighbours. Okay there are also the $%^&holes who cut you up but there everywhere OK? I still maintain Its no bad thing to keep being polite even in the face of adversity (it dosent really cost much) and it does send out signals that all people from our part of the globe are not all bad. just my thoughts And good thoughts they are to bet you have great kids...:D :D |
Originally posted by Rich_007 Thanks guys, sounds like a mixed bag really. Sounds like the rudeness is more of a 'big city' mentality, you know, not a second to live and rushing around oblivious to the little things in life that make the day so much more pleasant, like manners and civility. You get it everywhere I guess, but with a few exceptions, pretty much 99% of people I've spoken to have commented on how helpful and polite most Canadians are, and everyone we've spoken to (by phone so far) has been real helpful. We live in small village at the moment (in the Uk still) and we've virtually stopped using the local stores because the staff and owners are so rude and ignorant. Might as well use a superstore if there' no difference in service and the prices is cheaper in town. I'm not saying things are going down the pan here, but it certainly isn't how it used to be. Cheers, Rich. They even say "Sorry" if they accidentally end up blocking your path instead of "Excuse me". :) |
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Originally posted by jeannie I hope you went to Whistler, Grouse Mountain, Granvill Market, :D http://www.geocities.com/ptlabs/canada/ An excellent place to visit, I must say. Loved every minute of my stay. Wouldn't mind retiring there one fine day. Peter |
Originally posted by Big Kieran Hi Souls Canuck a few thoughts Not here too long but I have noticed the lack of manners SOMETIMES although this seems to be maybe cultural in that people from some societies may not be used to respond in a certain manner to certain, situations but thats okay. having said this (hope its not "un PC") i have found that the vast majority of folk I have met in Toronto have been more than polite. they DO hold doors open For me or my wife and kids and we respond etc. Please and thankyou are usually said And we have even noticed some people will go out of thier way to help! Most Torontonians are extremely polite and make very good neighbours. Okay there are also the $%^&holes who cut you up but there everywhere OK? I still maintain Its no bad thing to keep being polite even in the face of adversity (it dosent really cost much) and it does send out signals that all people from our part of the globe are not all bad. just my thoughts It is a cultural thing. In London, its no longer polite to wait and let other cars pass, or thank someone if they have stopped to let you pass. similarly just a thankyou or acknowledgment to someone who lets you cross, is rare. Conversely, I have always been offered the upmost courtesy when I visit people from abroad, as hospitality is always given. People may move across continents, and take up new lives, but they very rarely change the way they were brought up, be it driving habits, society rules of etiquate etc, but the children pick up the habits. Manners and politeness used to be a great British tradition which I was drummed in at school, and which insist my kids follow, but it no longer seems fashionable. My kids cringe when i wind down the window after letting someone pass, and shout 'your welcome!' if they fail to say thank you, I know its sad but I get wound up by bad manners. It seems part of the Thatcher legacy, leading into the Blairite Cool Brittania to stop considering Good manners etc as a good thing. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: |
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Originally posted by ptlabs Yup, nope, yup. Visited Victoria, Seattle, etc http://www.geocities.com/ptlabs/canada/ An excellent place to visit, I must say. Loved every minute of my stay. Wouldn't mind retiring there one fine day. Peter :rolleyes: but i will now...... lol |
I find that people in general won't move out of the way on the sidewalk. My supermarket is just a couple of mins away so I just lug my shopping home on foot. I've noticed that it's me who has to move out of the way!! (I don't live in a big city)
On the politeness of saying please and thank you, I think it's about 50/50. |
Originally posted by xunzi I find that people in general won't move out of the way on the sidewalk. My supermarket is just a couple of mins away so I just lug my shopping home on foot. I've noticed that it's me who has to move out of the way!! (I don't live in a big city) On the politeness of saying please and thank you, I think it's about 50/50. |
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