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tony.l Jun 4th 2006 10:51 pm

PR card
 
Hi all,

I received my residents status back in July 2001 and entered Canada as soon as i got this. I spent 2 years there although
my problem lies in that I was just floating about travelling from one side of Canada to the other and staying with family.

I am now married with a baby and we would like to try living in Canada for a while to see if we like it enough to move.

As i worked hard and waited a long time for my status I would hate to lose it although my first 5 years is comming to
an end in July.

Is there any way or any loophole that would mean i could use an address within Canada and have someone there mail
in my application for my PR card and can it be mailed out to you or have a representative go get it?

Also am i going to face the 3rd degree when i try to enter Canada with regards have i met my residency obligation
of 2 years in 5.

How can i enter Canada when I don't have my new PR card?

If i can get this card sorted at what point should i declare my change of marital status?

With regards my wife, how difficult would it be for her to get a 1 year working visa? Would it help that she is a nurse?


If any one can give me any help on these matters it would be much appreciated.

Tangram Jun 4th 2006 11:47 pm

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by tony.l
Hi all,

I received my residents status back in July 2001 and entered Canada as soon as i got this. I spent 2 years there although
my problem lies in that I was just floating about travelling from one side of Canada to the other and staying with family.

I am now married with a baby and we would like to try living in Canada for a while to see if we like it enough to move.

As i worked hard and waited a long time for my status I would hate to lose it although my first 5 years is comming to
an end in July.

Is there any way or any loophole that would mean i could use an address within Canada and have someone there mail
in my application for my PR card and can it be mailed out to you or have a representative go get it?

Also am i going to face the 3rd degree when i try to enter Canada with regards have i met my residency obligation
of 2 years in 5.

How can i enter Canada when I don't have my new PR card?

If i can get this card sorted at what point should i declare my change of marital status?

With regards my wife, how difficult would it be for her to get a 1 year working visa? Would it help that she is a nurse?


If any one can give me any help on these matters it would be much appreciated.

I would suggest posting this in the immigration forum. Andrew Miller is usually spot on ( whilst being a little abrupt ) with this sort of thing.

Paul.

pennyhp Jun 5th 2006 12:37 am

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Originally Posted by Tangram
I would suggest posting this in the immigration forum. Andrew Miller is usually spot on ( whilst being a little abrupt ) with this sort of thing.

Paul.

Andrew Millar abrupt!! You shock me :D

Penny

grumpy Jun 8th 2006 3:37 pm

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by tony.l
Hi all,

I received my residents status back in July 2001 and entered Canada as soon as i got this. I spent 2 years there although
my problem lies in that I was just floating about travelling from one side of Canada to the other and staying with family.

I am now married with a baby and we would like to try living in Canada for a while to see if we like it enough to move.

As i worked hard and waited a long time for my status I would hate to lose it although my first 5 years is comming to
an end in July.

Is there any way or any loophole that would mean i could use an address within Canada and have someone there mail
in my application for my PR card and can it be mailed out to you or have a representative go get it?

Also am i going to face the 3rd degree when i try to enter Canada with regards have i met my residency obligation
of 2 years in 5.

How can i enter Canada when I don't have my new PR card?

If i can get this card sorted at what point should i declare my change of marital status?

With regards my wife, how difficult would it be for her to get a 1 year working visa? Would it help that she is a nurse?


If any one can give me any help on these matters it would be much appreciated.


You can enter as a visitor without a PR card, but I'm sure you already know that....If a PR card is granted you will have to collect it in person, with identification, from an Immigration office. They are not posted out as a precaution against fraud.

Alberta_Rose Jun 8th 2006 4:55 pm

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by grumpy
If a PR card is granted you will have to collect it in person, with identification, from an Immigration office. They are not posted out as a precaution against fraud.

umm they are certainly posted out to new immigrants after they have "landed".

Is it different for existing PR's then?

Mans Jun 8th 2006 8:33 pm

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by Morwenna
umm they are certainly posted out to new immigrants after they have "landed".

Is it different for existing PR's then?


I beleive that is correct.

PR cArd is posted out to a new Landed immigrant but must be picked up if its a replacement/lost PR Card for an existing Landed person.

Rgds
mans

Butch Cassidy Jun 8th 2006 11:34 pm

Re: PR card
 
ERM,

People its 3 out of 5 years in Canada!!!!!!!!
Tony has already lost his PR status!!!

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. :eek: :scared:

Tuppence Jun 9th 2006 12:00 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
ERM,

People its 3 out of 5 years in Canada!!!!!!!!
Tony has already lost his PR status!!!

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. :eek: :scared:

No, I think 2 out of 5 is correct.

KRoss Jun 9th 2006 12:02 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
ERM,

People its 3 out of 5 years in Canada!!!!!!!!
Tony has already lost his PR status!!!

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. :eek: :scared:

The CIC website says
"you must accumulate two years of physical presence in Canada in every five-year period." so I dont think he has.

Butch Cassidy Jun 9th 2006 12:08 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by Tuppence
No, I think 2 out of 5 is correct.

OOPS yes me wearing stoopid head again :o

Tuppence Jun 9th 2006 12:18 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
OOPS yes me wearing stoopid head again :o

Hey, it's Friday, this isn't the immigration forum, I'm sure we can get away with anything!

Tuppence Jun 9th 2006 12:55 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by tony.l
Hi all,

I received my residents status back in July 2001 and entered Canada as soon as i got this. I spent 2 years there although
my problem lies in that I was just floating about travelling from one side of Canada to the other and staying with family.

I am now married with a baby and we would like to try living in Canada for a while to see if we like it enough to move.

As i worked hard and waited a long time for my status I would hate to lose it although my first 5 years is comming to
an end in July.

Is there any way or any loophole that would mean i could use an address within Canada and have someone there mail
in my application for my PR card and can it be mailed out to you or have a representative go get it?

Also am i going to face the 3rd degree when i try to enter Canada with regards have i met my residency obligation
of 2 years in 5.

How can i enter Canada when I don't have my new PR card?

If i can get this card sorted at what point should i declare my change of marital status?

With regards my wife, how difficult would it be for her to get a 1 year working visa? Would it help that she is a nurse?


If any one can give me any help on these matters it would be much appreciated.

Why don't you apply for a travel document from the CHC in London? You have to justify your 2 out of 5 years for this, and if you fail, at least you won't be stood at a Canadian border when it goes wrong. If you can successfully get a travel doc, I would think you are much more likely to be able to get the PR card once you are over in Canada.

tony.l Jun 9th 2006 1:05 am

Re: PR card
 
If i get the travel document then i am still going to have to apply for my new pr card when i get there and because they will have a record of this then they will know when i arrived back in canada after leaving back in 2003.

Where as if i just go on a return ticket they more than likely will just let me through and that way when i apply for my pr card they only have my word as to when i left and came back?

does this make sense ?

Tuppence Jun 9th 2006 1:10 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by tony.l
If i get the travel document then i am still going to have to apply for my new pr card when i get there and because they will have a record of this then they will know when i arrived back in canada after leaving back in 2003.

Where as if i just go on a return ticket they more than likely will just let me through and that way when i apply for my pr card they only have my word as to when i left and came back?

does this make sense ?

Yes, but the problem is you are the one who has to prove that you have had the minimum two years in Canada. And I'm sure if they wanted to investigate, when you did leave, there is a passenger list somewhere from 2003 with your name on it (and you really don't want to lie, and say you have been there in the meantime - bad news).

HTH.

Hope you come up with something. Good luck :beer:

grumpy Jun 9th 2006 1:18 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by Morwenna
umm they are certainly posted out to new immigrants after they have "landed".

Is it different for existing PR's then?

Beg to differ - I had to collect mine, which involved quite a trek to the nearest office - a day I'm not likely to forget! They don't call me Grumnpy for nothing!! :D

Gray C Jun 9th 2006 1:24 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
ERM,

People its 3 out of 5 years in Canada!!!!!!!!
Tony has already lost his PR status!!!

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. :eek: :scared:

2 out of 5 years

Butch Cassidy Jun 9th 2006 1:25 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by Gray C
2 out of 5 years

LOL we've covered that one. :o
Already admitted I'm wearing my stoopid head :o

iaink Jun 9th 2006 1:29 am

Re: PR card
 
Good idea to lie on your PR card application form. Spend the rest of your time looking over your shoulder (even if you eventually become a citizen) or waiting for the knock on the door when they come to boot your sorry arse out of the country.

IIRC you still meet the requirement, so just go with the truth. As it is you dont need PR card or travel document to return as you have a visa waiver passport, so come back, explain all and trust the system. If you did screw up, abandoned the country and legitimately lost your status, thats too bad, the rest of us take this shit seriously after the effort it took to get PR status in the first place.

PR is 2 out of 5, Citizen is 3 out of 4, probably the sourse of confusion? No doubt AM will show up and correct us that technically is whatever number of days

PR cards for newly lander PRs are mailed, Cards for existing PRs usually have to be collected in person.

AnyaT Jun 9th 2006 1:34 am

Re: PR card
 
HB received his PR card by mail, so unless CIC has changed its policy in the last 1.5 years, it is not necessary to go in person to pick them up.

Butch Cassidy Jun 9th 2006 1:38 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by iaink
Good idea to lie on your PR card application form. Spend the rest of your time looking over your shoulder (even if you eventually become a citizen) or waiting for the knock on the door when they come to boot your sorry arse out of the country.

IIRC you still meet the requirement, so just go with the truth. As it is you dont need PR card or travel document to return as you have a visa waiver passport, so come back, explain all and trust the system. If you did screw up, abandoned the country and legitimately lost your status, thats too bad, the rest of us take this shit seriously after the effort it took to get PR status in the first place.

PR is 2 out of 5, Citizen is 3 out of 4, probably the sourse of confusion? No doubt AM will show up and correct us that technically is whatever number of days

PR cards for newly lander PRs are mailed, Cards for existing PRs have to be collected in person.

Agreed 110% there Iain!! (especially with respect to the source of confusion) :D

tony.l Jun 9th 2006 1:46 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by AnyaT
HB received his PR card by mail, so unless CIC has changed its policy in the last 1.5 years, it is not necessary to go in person to pick them up.


who is HB and has anyone else that had a IMM 1000 and needed to update it to the new PR card had theres mailed out to them rather than having to go in and collect it in person.

Island_Girl Jun 9th 2006 1:51 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by tony.l
who is HB and has anyone else that had a IMM 1000 and needed to update it to the new PR card had theres mailed out to them rather than having to go in and collect it in person.


both my sister and I have lived here since 1967 and had the old paper IMM1000 card signed by our father as we were small children. We both just this year finally applied for our new PR card ...never had one before and they were mailed out to us.

Island Girl

AnyaT Jun 9th 2006 3:36 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by tony.l
who is HB and has anyone else that had a IMM 1000 and needed to update it to the new PR card had theres mailed out to them rather than having to go in and collect it in person.

HB = my husband. We were living in Toronto when he received his permanent residence-ship, so it wasn't like your case where you are re-applying from outside.

Sorry, can't answer questions about specific forms as I no longer remember anything about them.

iaink Jun 9th 2006 3:39 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by Island_Girl
both my sister and I have lived here since 1967 and had the old paper IMM1000 card signed by our father as we were small children. We both just this year finally applied for our new PR card ...never had one before and they were mailed out to us.

Island Girl

You have lived here since coming as a kid in 1967 and never bothered with Citizenship?

Butch Cassidy Jun 9th 2006 5:02 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by iaink
You have lived here since coming as a kid in 1967 and never bothered with Citizenship?

You sitting down?
I met a woman who has lived here for 25 years. Born in UK, Italian Parents. Always carried an Italian Passport, has lost the original passport (with her entry visa in), let the last passport run out, she never applied for citizenship, she never applied for a PR card. She doesnt have her birth certificate.
Basically she is restricted to staying in Canada!!!!

westchilt Jun 9th 2006 7:50 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by Morwenna
umm they are certainly posted out to new immigrants after they have "landed".

Is it different for existing PR's then?

We were existing PR's and we had to go and pick them up. From what I can remember we were given a date in which to go and collect them.

Gray C Jun 9th 2006 8:05 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by Morwenna
umm they are certainly posted out to new immigrants after they have "landed".

Is it different for existing PR's then?

If we land and then return to the UK for a period of time does the PR card get sent to our UK address, or do we have to nominate a Canadian address for it to be sent to, i.e. my wife's sister's address in Ontario?

Alberta_Rose Jun 9th 2006 8:09 am

Re: PR card
 
I believe ..... and I'm sure there are a dozen ppl to correct me if I'm wrong :rolleyes: ..... that they will only post to a Canadian address.

As to whether existing PR's have to pick them up personally .... that seems to be a matter of differing experience, doesn't it. They posted to us, as new landed immigrants last fall ..... that was our experience.

iaink Jun 9th 2006 8:10 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by Gray C
If we land and then return to the UK for a period of time does the PR card get sent to our UK address, or do we have to nominate a Canadian address for it to be sent to, i.e. my wife's sister's address in Ontario?

They wont send a PR card overseas...permanent residents are assumed to want to live permanently in Canada see!

Gray C Jun 9th 2006 8:21 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by iaink
They wont send a PR card overseas...permanent residents are assumed to want to live permanently in Canada see!

We want to move to Canada permanently, but unfortunately it seems likely that we will have to return to the UK for a year or so after landing to complete our daughter's Growth Hormone therapy. As you know already from previous correspondence the cost of the GH drugs in Canada is very expensive, so we do not have much option but to stay here for a while longer.

Is it wise to use my sister in law's address for the PR card, or is this a no no?

Butch Cassidy Jun 9th 2006 8:22 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by Gray C
Is it wise to use my sister in law's address for the PR card, or is this a no no?

As long as it's a Canadian address its perfect! :D

iaink Jun 9th 2006 9:08 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by Gray C

Is it wise to use my sister in law's address for the PR card, or is this a no no?

Should be OK. Technically its probably not allowed, but as dbd points out, most things are here:)

Island_Girl Jun 9th 2006 9:13 am

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by iaink
You have lived here since coming as a kid in 1967 and never bothered with Citizenship?

lol ...nope I moved here when I was 4 lived my whole life here...never really thought about having to get my citizenship...until I married a Brit and thought I might be moving to UK and wanted to make sure I could always come back here...I got my PR card just in time to make it redundent when I finally got my citizenship this past Jan...so now I am finally an offical Canadian :D

Island Girl

grumpy Jun 16th 2006 3:37 pm

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by tony.l
who is HB and has anyone else that had a IMM 1000 and needed to update it to the new PR card had theres mailed out to them rather than having to go in and collect it in person.

Looks like different rules apply in different places then :confused: .... my PR card, which had to be collected in person, was a replacement for my IMM1000

tony.l Jun 18th 2006 7:04 pm

Re: PR card
 

Originally Posted by grumpy
Looks like different rules apply in different places then :confused: .... my PR card, which had to be collected in person, was a replacement for my IMM1000

when did you get your pr card - was there much of a waiting list?


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