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Old Sep 14th 2015, 8:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Juggernaut1064
If you don't get short term disability as part of you benefits package you should take out some private insurance, don't get caught out like i did it destroyed me financially.
I meant within Canada in general, I do have excellent benefits.
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I didn't even know there was a think as short term or long term disability one could get, learn something everyday.
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Old Sep 15th 2015, 12:57 pm
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Originally Posted by neill
Yes, but OP wrote: "but I used to take roughly 10 days off annually on health grounds ... no questions asked"

This won't work in Canada.
That's what struck me too. I really dislike the attitude of I have sick days to use. If you're sick then having them is useful but I don't like the attitude of the above. I haven't been sick or had a sick day (when I was working) in well I can't remember. If the kids were sick I would take unpaid leave. Maybe it's because I was a nurse, you take a sick day when not needed and you know you have left your colleagues having to take an extra's persons workload. It's not good!
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Originally Posted by DandNHill
I worked for 6 months for TD Insurance last year... I left because I just didn't enjoy the job...worked very well as a stop gap though.

Anyway right from the get go I got...

3 weeks holiday (paid)
1 week personal time (paid)
All the stat holidays (paid)
Sick pay (not sure how many days but in those 6 months I had two off sick and was paid for them)
1 week compassionate (paid)

Added to that I received health benefits from day one for myself, my husband and my 2 boys for $27 biweekly. Full cover on the health and 80% on dental.

So as far as TD is concerned I really believe they can compete with the UK. I believe other banks are competitive or they wouldn't have any staff!
5 paid sick days I've found to be the norm and most places happy to cover more with a doctors note.

One thing I will say as someone in the recruitment space is that the large enterprises during a salary negotiation will throw in 5 extra days versus extra money.

In the last 12 months 3 of the people I've placed into the back office of a Canadian bank got 20 days vacation no problem simply by asking for extra. I hope it is Canada starting to modernise a little....
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Originally Posted by Tirytory
That's what struck me too. I really dislike the attitude of I have sick days to use. If you're sick then having them is useful but I don't like the attitude of the above. I haven't been sick or had a sick day (when I was working) in well I can't remember. If the kids were sick I would take unpaid leave. Maybe it's because I was a nurse, you take a sick day when not needed and you know you have left your colleagues having to take an extra's persons workload. It's not good!
Correct. I guess the OP got upset about that.

Put it this way -- I wouldn't hire OP. Taking the original post at face value, OP would have to have be an extraordinary employee in some other way to get away with 10 sick days in year 1. I know where I've worked in the past, we would be looking to suggest OP finds another job.
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Originally Posted by neill
Taking the original post at face value, OP would have to have be an extraordinary employee in some other way to get away with 10 sick days in year 1. I know where I've worked in the past, we would be looking to suggest OP finds another job.
I don't know how the OP responded earlier (deleted comment!) but that "I used to take roughly 10 days off annually on health grounds ... no questions asked" doesn't necessarily mean it was a sort of supplement to annual leave.

Like Tirytory I was in a job (not nursing) where a sick absence had a significant effect on those on duty. But it was nice to know it "was there" and that one could feel able to take the day off if under the weather. One day away was better than more than one by making yourself worse by going in, not to mention "spreading it" to others as is common when people heroically go in but shouldn't.
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I was asked for a doctors note even just taking a day, guessing the sick days here have been abused at some point ?
Only had two this year of my seven so not too bad.
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Old Sep 15th 2015, 2:53 pm
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Originally Posted by BristolUK
I don't know how the OP responded earlier (deleted comment!) but that "I used to take roughly 10 days off annually on health grounds ... no questions asked" doesn't necessarily mean it was a sort of supplement to annual leave.

Like Tirytory I was in a job (not nursing) where a sick absence had a significant effect on those on duty. But it was nice to know it "was there" and that one could feel able to take the day off if under the weather. One day away was better than more than one by making yourself worse by going in, not to mention "spreading it" to others as is common when people heroically go in but shouldn't.
I agree and the health system has gone the other way now, you virtually can't even be sick which is silly because it makes no sense to spread it around. However I know plenty of people who have very little work ethic and would see the paid sickness as an adjunct to their annual leave. Whether the op was one of them or not who knows, however his posts kind of point in that direction.
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the few places I have worked that offered sick pay watched the use of them like a hawk. We got 5 per year and they would look for any kind of pattern, and had no issues asking for medical notes to confirm you were indeed ill.

Out of 5 years at that company, I had 2 years where sick leave was used, both times I was hospitalized with legitimate doctor notes for it.



In all my jobs if you call in sick your co-workers are screwed and someone has to work a double shift or on their day off, so feel too guilty to call in sick unless I am super sick, unfortunately others don't feel the same way about co-workers and have no issues calling in sick and screwing over their co-worker. None of the places in Canada have offered sick pay, so nobody was getting paid when called in sick.
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my job nominally has 6 paid sick days per year but even my boss admitted they don't track it unless they think you're abusing it. I think I took 3 last year and one this year.
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I didn't even know there was a think as short term or long term disability one could get, learn something everyday.
I'm sorry to hear this, J.

I don't have time to do extensive research today, but this might be interesting to you as a starting point:
Short Term Illness and Injury Plan
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I'm sorry to hear this, J.

I don't have time to do extensive research today, but this might be interesting to you as a starting point:
Short Term Illness and Injury Plan
O lot of them pay out so little and for such a short time relative to the premiums though.
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O lot of them pay out so little and for such a short time relative to the premiums though.
I only claimed it once up to now in ten years, while recovering from an abdominal hernia op (couldn't prove it was work related so no WCB claim) Was told it paid 90% of earnings, Back then as a trucker i netted $1800 bi weekly, STD paid $1800 for eight weeks !!! Been told so many times someone screwed up my claim at that trucking outfit but i never got any more out of them.
Its not something that seems to pay a lot although where i am now i've been assured it does pay 90% as others have claimed it, only reason i asked is because i may be having another stent fitted soon and will likely claim.
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I'm sorry to hear this, J.

I don't have time to do extensive research today, but this might be interesting to you as a starting point:
Short Term Illness and Injury Plan
Rethinking because we have PWD status in BC, we likely wouldn't benefit from any sort of insurance such as a private disability plan.
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