fledermaus

Although I think the built environment is much worse here for disabled access, I find that the people help much more. It's miles less stressful to be a deaf old bat here. There's no huffing and puffing, and awkwardness, people will go out of their way to help you.

That makes a huge difference believe me.

moondevil

OMG - Just read the post and really felt for the poor mum, maybe she was reaching out to see if anyone else had gone through the same as her son
I hope all those that live in there lovely glass house have extra protection installed :curse:

To the OP - i hope you find a solution and i am sorry to hear about your son, maybe appeal to the minister and sack the immagration consultant that you used, maybe also advise who you used to see if others have used them.
Also check to see if they are on the goverment site to act on your behalf......
Now that you have 6 posts you can private message me and a few others that have been helpful........

I hope that you can find a solution soon

Coffeepot

nearly run over by someone in one of those the other day just coming out of the lift, his poor frantic wife was trying to get him to brake
first time use i think,




I think your spot on moondevil she was asking for help,
I hope if she reads this that she understands we do get quite a few trolls on a friday, but we should give posters the benefit of the doubt and help even if its just emotional suport and not necessarily what they want to hear,

I should imagine its an awful sittuation to be in and not a lot she can do from the UK,

I remember coming on here for the first time and feeling totally out of my depth, some posters were actually quite hostile and yes i did ask some silly questions, but when you are new to all this there is so much to take in.

Wish your son luck looks like he has friends there that are fighting to keep him there

startwin

For those of us who have been around for awhile, this is an excellent point and a reminder to treat newcomers better. I have been guilty too. I should know better because I lurked for over a year before daring to make a post. The hostility was almost palpable at times, and especially the accusations of racism for the silliest of reasons. I often wondered where the moderators were as it was really ugly at times with really personal attacks. Much better in the last year or so, thankfully.

Anyway, lesson learned for me not to immediately suspect a troll, just because it's a Friday!

Coffeepot

Great post Starwin, good to know im not the only one who was scarred to venture in

Rete

Trolls appearing on the weekends are normally advertising trolls.



This site, not just the forum, would like to see members treat all posters, old and new, with respect and dignity.



Yes, if being polite means finding out the truth before mouthing off and labeling someone before you know all the facts.

Remember the way you feel, act, and the story of your life and your experiences are yours and yours alone. Not everyone has the same feelings and stories and/or experiences. It is never wise to consider because you might do one thing in a situation that anyone who does something different is wrong. Reach out a friendly hand and offer a kind word before coming to decisions.

Rete
SuperModerator

moondevil

I have to admit when i saw the post at the beginning i did not comment as i have never known anyone in there situation, i really hope that the OP comes back and see's that there is people on here that really does care

When i joined this forum i asked silly questions and probably do on my silly days, but that is life.......

people have to remember that living in glass houses is not good, we are not here to pull a person down....
what is the saying that we can take the person out of england but not the english out of the person...seems so with some posters at the moment...
Good karma - is this not the canadian way

mattyr40

Well as a new poster i can say that after sifting through threads, There is a bit of snobbery towards noobs. Especially if they dare to ask questions about the cold weather.
But its normally the same culprits who are guilty of this and eventually the goods guys have shone through.

FlirtyKnickers

It's nerve wreaking coming into this place and asking questions at all....i lurked for ages before i ever posted,...so the rest of us do try and make people feel welcome

moondevil

and wow did you make up for it my dear

FlirtyKnickers

I know....scundered Thats Belfastian for embarrassed

andrewrb143

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bre...portation.html

Didn't fly yesterday due to illness and now has an MP on his side.

iaink

I hate to say it, but its probably safe to still assume first time posters on Friday afternoon with emotional tales of prejudice and injustice are in fact mostly trolling for kicks. One swallow does not a spring make. Its easy (and right) to suspect a troll when their first ever post here says:

I dont mind replying to stupid newbie questions, its part of the charm of this place. But I also dont care to have it spoiled by those who just want to post to cause a bit of a kerfuffle, and there have sadly been plenty of them. Its all very well to say This site, not just the forum, would like to see members treat all posters, old and new, with respect and dignity, but it insults our intelegence to pretend that there are not trolls out there seeking to lure people in with tales of hardship and heartache, and that they are worth our respect and dignity. Having to post a couple of times on an existing thread just makes it easier to judge someones intent when they do start a new thread, I dont think its a bad idea at all.

Its an anonymous chat site, I really dont see why people should be scared or intimidated to post, its pretty simple;

Act intelligently.

Think about what you are writing.

Dont start by making inflamatory accusations.


and people will take you at face value, and above all,


Learn to take the rough with the smooth.

DaveLovesDee

Most people try, though when you've been asked by the 90th person if it's cold in Canada, it's very tempting to be flippant. Next time, I'll just point at the white bits on a map.

Fair point, but it wasn't until someone posted a newspaper article that it was proven to be true. I'm a cynic.

I'll try.

Thank you. I didn't see it on the left side of the screen.

Rete

Thank you, Cap'n

As a veteran of the US Immigration since 1997, I have answerred the same questions so often I fully understand how tedious the repetition can be.

Only added the title so that people would know that I wasn't posting as a poster but as a moderator.

To Iaink: I'm not asking anyone to not believe in trolls. They are real and a problem on the internet. I'm asking that judgment be withheld until something concrete is shown that the post and poster are actual trolls. In other words, I'm asking posters to use their intelligence to weed out trolls from real posters.