British Expats

British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)
-   Canada (https://britishexpats.com/forum/canada-56/)
-   -   Oh bollocks. (https://britishexpats.com/forum/canada-56/oh-bollocks-640416/)

dbd33 Nov 12th 2009 12:19 pm

Oh bollocks.
 
Of course the thread starter was trolling but that didn't make it a bad thread. I've just wasted ten minutes constructing a post containing a sensible (I thought) argument just to find that the thread's gone for not being vapid enough.

Not everything of interest to ex-pats is about eggs and car insurance.

Novocastrian Nov 12th 2009 12:24 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8095308)
Of course the thread starter was trolling but that didn't make it a bad thread. I've just wasted ten minutes constructing a post containing a sensible (I thought) argument just to find that the thread's gone for not being vapid enough.

Not everything of interest to ex-pats is about eggs and car insurance.

Blame me. The one on the germany forum was just a bit much.

Feel free to continue the discussion, but first please precis the debate so far.

Alan2005 Nov 12th 2009 12:24 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8095308)
Of course the thread starter was trolling but that didn't make it a bad thread. I've just wasted ten minutes constructing a post containing a sensible (I thought) argument just to find that the thread's gone for not being vapid enough.

Not everything of interest to ex-pats is about eggs and car insurance.

Has that thread gone then. I was actually enjoying it.

Alan2005 Nov 12th 2009 12:25 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8095332)
Blame me. The one on the germany forum was just a bit much.

Feel free to continue the discussion, but first please precis the debate so far.

But the crazy germany one is still there!!

nikki dreaming Nov 12th 2009 12:25 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 
you could paste your reply into here;)

Novocastrian Nov 12th 2009 12:27 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8095340)
But the crazy germany one is still there!!

Moderators move in mysterious ways.

Apparently.

dbd33 Nov 12th 2009 12:29 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8095332)
Blame me. The one on the germany forum was just a bit much.

Feel free to continue the discussion, but first please precis the debate so far.

I did see the one on that forum and yes, that was unacceptable. Here though the debate concerned which ethnic minority might be most likely to provide a Prime Minister in the UK or in Canada and the nature of multi-culturalism in different countries. I was about to post this:

"I'll say something for Canada here, well Toronto anyway, I think it's genuinely multi-cultural. The UK exemplifies the melting pot approach to ethnicity whereas Canada, lacking any defining quality of its own, has allowed all hyphenated ethnicities to be equal. It may be that a night at a Korean restaurant is an exercise in cultural awareness but that's because the crowd attending is a Greek-Canadian, a Russian-Canadian, an Indian-Canadian and the Croatian/Australian lesbians who always tag along."

in response to a post claiming the UK to be the epicentre of multiculturalism and that in Canada a trip to a Korean restaurant was the extent of cultural diversity on offer.

dbd33 Nov 12th 2009 12:30 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8095334)
Has that thread gone then. I was actually enjoying it.


Me too, some meat to it, I thought.

dbd33 Nov 12th 2009 12:32 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 
Now it's back. Bloody hell, It's like trying to follow the blog of a couple at war.

Novocastrian Nov 12th 2009 12:33 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8095359)
I did see the one on that forum and yes, that was unacceptable. Here though the debate concerned which ethnic minority might be most likely to provide a Prime Minister in the UK or in Canada and the nature of multi-culturalism in different countries. I was about to post this:

"I'll say something for Canada here, well Toronto anyway, I think it's genuinely multi-cultural. The UK exemplifies the melting pot approach to ethnicity whereas Canada, lacking any defining quality of its own, has allowed all hyphenated ethnicities to be equal. It may be that a night at a Korean restaurant is an exercise in cultural awareness but that's because the crowd attending is a Greek-Canadian, a Russian-Canadian, an Indian-Canadian and the Croatian/Australian lesbians who always tag along."

in response to a post claiming the UK to be the epicentre of multiculturalism and that in Canada a trip to a Korean restaurant was the extent of cultural diversity on offer.

One wonders if a post claiming that the extent of Canadian multiculturalism is a trip to a Korean restaurant merits such a considered response.

dbd33 Nov 12th 2009 12:34 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8095380)
One wonders if a post claiming that the extent of Canadian multiculturalism is a trip to a Korean restaurant merits such a considered response.

It was a bit of a thinky thread.

Alan2005 Nov 12th 2009 12:34 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8095359)
I did see the one on that forum and yes, that was unacceptable. Here though the debate concerned which ethnic minority might be most likely to provide a Prime Minister in the UK or in Canada and the nature of multi-culturalism in different countries. I was about to post this:

"I'll say something for Canada here, well Toronto anyway, I think it's genuinely multi-cultural. The UK exemplifies the melting pot approach to ethnicity whereas Canada, lacking any defining quality of its own, has allowed all hyphenated ethnicities to be equal. It may be that a night at a Korean restaurant is an exercise in cultural awareness but that's because the crowd attending is a Greek-Canadian, a Russian-Canadian, an Indian-Canadian and the Croatian/Australian lesbians who always tag along."

in response to a post claiming the UK to be the epicentre of multiculturalism and that in Canada a trip to a Korean restaurant was the extent of cultural diversity on offer.

I didn't agree with wheatsheaf either. Though of Vancouver I would say it's multi-ethnic rather than mutli-cultural. It's reasonably diverse when you look at peoples faces, but it really doesn't feel multi cultural. Maybe because, as you say, canada is a bit of a cultural tabula rasa.

Novocastrian Nov 12th 2009 12:36 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8095388)
It was a bit of a thinky thread.

Oh. What a shame.

Atlantic Xpat Nov 12th 2009 12:37 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8095380)
One wonders if a post claiming that the extent of Canadian multiculturalism is a trip to a Korean restaurant merits such a considered response.

Ha! Nice one.

Fred drifting....one of my fellow MBA students (from Canada's cheapest MBA programme, not the FT20 CEO of whatever bollox, the late and unlamented, koolio was drivelling on about) brought this website to my attention: http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ I looked for you on there but disappointingly you are not to be found.;)

Novocastrian Nov 12th 2009 12:39 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 8095404)
Ha! Nice one.

Fred drifting....one of my fellow MBA students (from Canada's cheapest MBA programme, not the FT20 CEO of whatever bollox, the late and unlamented, koolio was drivelling on about) brought this website to my attention: http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ I looked for you on there but disappointingly you are not to be found.;)

Thank God for that. Obviously I've heard of that site, but have never had the courage to look at it.

dbd33 Nov 12th 2009 12:39 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8095389)
I didn't agree with wheatsheaf either. Though of Vancouver I would say it's multi-ethnic rather than mutli-cultural. It's reasonably diverse when you look at peoples faces, but it really doesn't feel multi cultural. Maybe because, as you say, canada is a bit of a cultural tabula rasa.

Toronto, like NYC, though less so, is really multi-cultural. One can function knowing just one of perhaps two dozen languages. I know people who have been there for decades and managed with just French, just Cantonese, just Hebrew. Our office manager routinely uses Russian, French and Yiddish to talk to regular visitors such as the currency trader and FedEx guy; everyone else, myself included, gets Polish.

Alan2005 Nov 12th 2009 12:49 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8095412)
Toronto, like NYC, though less so, is really multi-cultural. One can function knowing just one of perhaps two dozen languages. I know people who have been there for decades and managed with just French, just Cantonese, just Hebrew. Our office manager routinely uses Russian, French and Yiddish to talk to regular visitors such as the currency trader and FedEx guy; everyone else, myself included, gets Polish.

Thinking about it some more, maybe I'm misjudging it. Cos I lived in Asia I might have stopped seeing the differences, and Vancouver's diversity is primarily asian. Certainly, if I wander around china-town in Vancouver it still feels relatively western.

And we use english only in my office, though it is a bit like the UN. Cradle canadians are in the minority by a long way.

Atlantic Xpat Nov 12th 2009 12:59 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8095411)
Thank God for that. Obviously I've heard of that site, but have never had the courage to look at it.

I think its more an undergrad thing. The 'Hotness' rating seems to be particularly puerile.

Oink Nov 12th 2009 1:02 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 8095493)
I think its more an undergrad thing. The 'Hotness' rating seems to be particularly puerile.

Not if you have a high rating. ;)

Novocastrian Nov 12th 2009 1:05 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 8095493)
I think its more an undergrad thing. The 'Hotness' rating seems to be particularly puerile.

Armed with your tip that I'm not on it, I had a peek.

It's rubbish.

I know my colleagues pretty well and the comments are completely shotgun off the mark.

Although of course I'm devastated not to have a positive Hotness rating.

Do you think they'd notice if I did one for myself?

dbd33 Nov 12th 2009 1:08 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8095450)
Thinking about it some more, maybe I'm misjudging it. Cos I lived in Asia I might have stopped seeing the differences, and Vancouver's diversity is primarily asian. Certainly, if I wander around china-town in Vancouver it still feels relatively western.

And we use english only in my office, though it is a bit like the UN. Cradle canadians are in the minority by a long way.

One of my children now lives in Vancouver, she's a student but has a job at the francophone cultural centre. She's, er, been about a bit and rates
Vancouver highly for the outdoors, the hippy culture, the sailing, lots of things, but not diversity "hey, I lived in Montreal". Apparently it's more diverse than Halifax but then I recall the emails from Halifax "send curry, send Black people, hell, send Tabasco, send Jews".

fledermaus Nov 12th 2009 1:09 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8095508)
Armed with your tip that I'm not on it, I had a peek.

It's rubbish.

I know my colleagues pretty well and the comments are completely shotgun off the mark.

Although of course I'm devastated not to have a positive Hotness rating.

Do you think they'd notice if I did one for myself?

We could put you on there, and vote for you :rofl::eek:

Partially discharged Nov 12th 2009 1:12 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 8095404)
Ha! Nice one.

Fred drifting....one of my fellow MBA students (from Canada's cheapest MBA programme, not the FT20 CEO of whatever bollox, the late and unlamented, koolio was drivelling on about) brought this website to my attention: http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ I looked for you on there but disappointingly you are not to be found.;)

My brother was a prof at a US university and you better believe it profs read those reviews and some post their own to make themselves look better.

Novocastrian Nov 12th 2009 1:31 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 8095520)
We could put you on there, and vote for you :rofl::eek:

No. No, thank you. Very decent and all that...

I'm lucky enough to teach nothing below 3rd year. I'd like to think that they've grown out of such tomfoolery by then.

Novocastrian Nov 12th 2009 1:33 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by Partially discharged (Post 8095530)
My brother was a prof at a US university and you better believe it profs read those reviews and some post their own to make themselves look better.

Surely not if they have tenure? Well, perhaps, it is the US you refer to.

Oink Nov 12th 2009 2:24 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8095588)
Surely not if they have tenure? Well, perhaps, it is the US you refer to.

Its only personal ego. They don't give toss how you teach in the US to get tenure. They just want to know if you've published the right stuff, in the right journals so you make the department look good. That, and shagging the Dean's wife might delay your chances a bit. ;)

I actually had a colleague who'd simply read his notes out to the class without looking up. Many a time he'd screw up and read them out of sequence. Page 1,3,5 7 etc. then he'd go back and read pages, 2,4,6,8. He still got tenure. :rofl:

iaink Nov 13th 2009 12:37 am

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8095359)
I did see the one on that forum and yes, that was unacceptable. .

Good god, I am shocked, shocked I tell you to discover that there are actually some things that dbd finds unacceptable!

dbd33 Nov 13th 2009 12:46 am

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8096985)
Good god, I am shocked, shocked I tell you to discover that there are actually some things that dbd finds unacceptable!

Shot!

Novocastrian Nov 13th 2009 11:54 am

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8095782)
Its only personal ego. They don't give toss how you teach in the US to get tenure. They just want to know if you've published the right stuff, in the right journals so you make the department look good. That, and shagging the Dean's wife might delay your chances a bit. ;)

I actually had a colleague who'd simply read his notes out to the class without looking up. Many a time he'd screw up and read them out of sequence. Page 1,3,5 7 etc. then he'd go back and read pages, 2,4,6,8. He still got tenure. :rofl:

Your colleague's mistake was to number the pages in the first place. Makes it far too easy.

wheatsheaf Nov 13th 2009 1:12 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 
oh bollocks

DaveLovesDee Nov 13th 2009 6:15 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 
But we've already had ethnic Prime Ministers!


Spoiler:
They were Caucasian (It's still an ethnic group)

wheatsheaf Nov 14th 2009 11:06 am

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by CaptainHook (Post 8098236)
But we've already had ethnic Prime Ministers!


Spoiler:
They were Caucasian (It's still an ethnic group)


What about the self described 'coconut' Keith Vaz?

DaveLovesDee Nov 14th 2009 1:27 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by wheatsheaf (Post 8099076)
What about the self described 'coconut' Keith Vaz?

I don't recall him ever being PM!

I think Keith Vaz has no chance of being a future PM as he has quite a history of scandals and dodgy dealings.

wheatsheaf Nov 14th 2009 3:26 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by CaptainHook (Post 8099163)
I don't recall him ever being PM!

I think Keith Vaz has no chance of being a future PM as he has quite a history of scandals and dodgy dealings.

never been. wants to be? if the public forget the 'dodgy dealings' could he make it as PM?

DaveLovesDee Nov 14th 2009 4:32 pm

Re: Oh bollocks.
 

Originally Posted by wheatsheaf (Post 8099226)
never been. wants to be? if the public forget the 'dodgy dealings' could he make it as PM?

I'd hope people (and the media) have long memories.


All times are GMT -12. The time now is 6:17 am.

Powered by vBulletin: ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.