Nursing career, at what point wold you apply for what visa? Help!
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Nursing career, at what point would you apply for what visa? Help!
hi there. i have a long term plan with the end goal being a registered nurse in canada. we are considering barrie, ontario. i would be interested in your thoughts on my plan and at what point in time should be applying for what visa i have a husband who has a good job now ( call centre supervisor) but is worthless as a trade or to gain extra points on skilled worker route. i have a daughter who is nearly 3 now and i have to bare in mind whether she will be eligable for schooling depending on our method of entry. in sept im doing a uni access course and in 2009 starting nursing degree. so i will be a qualified nurse 2012. then i plan to get 2years minimum work in the uk ( 2 years experience is what most canadian medical employers seem to look for.) so at what point do i apply to immigration. do you actually have to have the 2 years(for example) under your belt before you apply in order to say you have 2 years experience on the applicatin knowing full well that it may take 5 years for immigration to process your skilled worker visa .
my original 'safe' idea was to enter canada via the skilled worker route which i am aware could mean it could be around 10years by the time i have trained and visa has been permitted. my husband would be able to look for part time work and my daughter would be eligable to go into school. and after becoming registered with the province and sitting the nursing exam i would also find work. plus no risk of being chucked out of the country because a certain visa has expired ! this seems to be the most straight forward and 'potentially' hassle free. i have looked into the temp working visa etc but am getting totally confused about whether my husband can work, my daughter can go to school, how easy it is to secure a job in canada whilst living in the uk etc. money isnt that much of an issue (we should be able to buy a house outright) and have decent savings left over) but being sensible my husband needs to be in a possition to work more or less straight away so we dont eat into our savings.
few, its so confusing. any thoughts.x
my original 'safe' idea was to enter canada via the skilled worker route which i am aware could mean it could be around 10years by the time i have trained and visa has been permitted. my husband would be able to look for part time work and my daughter would be eligable to go into school. and after becoming registered with the province and sitting the nursing exam i would also find work. plus no risk of being chucked out of the country because a certain visa has expired ! this seems to be the most straight forward and 'potentially' hassle free. i have looked into the temp working visa etc but am getting totally confused about whether my husband can work, my daughter can go to school, how easy it is to secure a job in canada whilst living in the uk etc. money isnt that much of an issue (we should be able to buy a house outright) and have decent savings left over) but being sensible my husband needs to be in a possition to work more or less straight away so we dont eat into our savings.
few, its so confusing. any thoughts.x
Last edited by robash; Aug 14th 2008 at 12:39 pm.
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Re: Nursing career, at what point wold you apply for what visa? Help!
Did answer on allnurses.com but would recommend you ensure your training covers all areas as Canada training is general not specialised like the UK.
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Hi Robash,
I am a nurse currently in the process of of applying for a TWP then hoping to apply for PR. We plan to go to Alberta this website is helpful to adhere to guidelines.http://www.nurses.ab.ca/Carna/
Hope this helps a bit
I am a nurse currently in the process of of applying for a TWP then hoping to apply for PR. We plan to go to Alberta this website is helpful to adhere to guidelines.http://www.nurses.ab.ca/Carna/
Hope this helps a bit
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hi there. i have a long term plan with the end goal being a registered nurse in canada. we are considering barrie, ontario. i would be interested in your thoughts on my plan and at what point in time should be applying for what visa i have a husband who has a good job now ( call centre supervisor) but is worthless as a trade or to gain extra points on skilled worker route. i have a daughter who is nearly 3 now and i have to bare in mind whether she will be eligable for schooling depending on our method of entry. in sept im doing a uni access course and in 2009 starting nursing degree. so i will be a qualified nurse 2012. then i plan to get 2years minimum work in the uk ( 2 years experience is what most canadian medical employers seem to look for.) so at what point do i apply to immigration. do you actually have to have the 2 years(for example) under your belt before you apply in order to say you have 2 years experience on the applicatin knowing full well that it may take 5 years for immigration to process your skilled worker visa .
my original 'safe' idea was to enter canada via the skilled worker route which i am aware could mean it could be around 10years by the time i have trained and visa has been permitted. my husband would be able to look for part time work and my daughter would be eligable to go into school. and after becoming registered with the province and sitting the nursing exam i would also find work. plus no risk of being chucked out of the country because a certain visa has expired ! this seems to be the most straight forward and 'potentially' hassle free. i have looked into the temp working visa etc but am getting totally confused about whether my husband can work, my daughter can go to school, how easy it is to secure a job in canada whilst living in the uk etc. money isnt that much of an issue (we should be able to buy a house outright) and have decent savings left over) but being sensible my husband needs to be in a possition to work more or less straight away so we dont eat into our savings.
few, its so confusing. any thoughts.x
my original 'safe' idea was to enter canada via the skilled worker route which i am aware could mean it could be around 10years by the time i have trained and visa has been permitted. my husband would be able to look for part time work and my daughter would be eligable to go into school. and after becoming registered with the province and sitting the nursing exam i would also find work. plus no risk of being chucked out of the country because a certain visa has expired ! this seems to be the most straight forward and 'potentially' hassle free. i have looked into the temp working visa etc but am getting totally confused about whether my husband can work, my daughter can go to school, how easy it is to secure a job in canada whilst living in the uk etc. money isnt that much of an issue (we should be able to buy a house outright) and have decent savings left over) but being sensible my husband needs to be in a possition to work more or less straight away so we dont eat into our savings.
few, its so confusing. any thoughts.x
The problem with the skilled worker route is that even though it takes years it does not mean that your application will be looked at. The WP route if you know you could get through the LMO is going to be much quicker. There is also the NSNP skilled worker stream that does not need an LMO because you are supported by the community you want to settle in. There is also the CI stream that again involves being supported by the community. This is the route we gained PR on and have been here 3 yrs.
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Re: Nursing career, at what point wold you apply for what visa? Help!
Hi
I'm sort of in the same position, i start uni next month doing adult nursing and hope to relocate after graduating. Its all so confusing. My OH is a HGV Driver with 12 years experience so i know we could get somewhere with that, but not sure if i could start working straight away??? Just deciding which visa to apply for is complicated in itself. Any advice ?????
I'm sort of in the same position, i start uni next month doing adult nursing and hope to relocate after graduating. Its all so confusing. My OH is a HGV Driver with 12 years experience so i know we could get somewhere with that, but not sure if i could start working straight away??? Just deciding which visa to apply for is complicated in itself. Any advice ?????
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Hi
I'm sort of in the same position, i start uni next month doing adult nursing and hope to relocate after graduating. Its all so confusing. My OH is a HGV Driver with 12 years experience so i know we could get somewhere with that, but not sure if i could start working straight away??? Just deciding which visa to apply for is complicated in itself. Any advice ?????
I'm sort of in the same position, i start uni next month doing adult nursing and hope to relocate after graduating. Its all so confusing. My OH is a HGV Driver with 12 years experience so i know we could get somewhere with that, but not sure if i could start working straight away??? Just deciding which visa to apply for is complicated in itself. Any advice ?????
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Try and arrange to get both practical and theory in all areas, mental health, paeds, midwifery will be ok with adult. Some universities don't like to amend their program if plan is to go broad but try. Once you are nearing the end of your training will be the time to look at visas as things may change in 3 years.
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Hi Robash
An important thing to bear in mind is that the skilled worker application requires you to meet all the criteria at the time of application which by your timescale would be around 2014. If the process stays the same for that length of time then the quickest way to get here would be TWP followed by PNP or CIS depending on province.
The immigration process is currently up for review and will no doubt be so again in the coming years. Keep yourself up to date on any changes but concentrate on your studies for now. the advice on the contents of your training is good advice, we were almost tripped up by a lack of paeds training in OHs course.
Take care and good luck
Tom
An important thing to bear in mind is that the skilled worker application requires you to meet all the criteria at the time of application which by your timescale would be around 2014. If the process stays the same for that length of time then the quickest way to get here would be TWP followed by PNP or CIS depending on province.
The immigration process is currently up for review and will no doubt be so again in the coming years. Keep yourself up to date on any changes but concentrate on your studies for now. the advice on the contents of your training is good advice, we were almost tripped up by a lack of paeds training in OHs course.
Take care and good luck
Tom
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Hi Robash
An important thing to bear in mind is that the skilled worker application requires you to meet all the criteria at the time of application which by your timescale would be around 2014. If the process stays the same for that length of time then the quickest way to get here would be TWP followed by PNP or CIS depending on province.
The immigration process is currently up for review and will no doubt be so again in the coming years. Keep yourself up to date on any changes but concentrate on your studies for now. the advice on the contents of your training is good advice, we were almost tripped up by a lack of paeds training in OHs course.
Take care and good luck
Tom
An important thing to bear in mind is that the skilled worker application requires you to meet all the criteria at the time of application which by your timescale would be around 2014. If the process stays the same for that length of time then the quickest way to get here would be TWP followed by PNP or CIS depending on province.
The immigration process is currently up for review and will no doubt be so again in the coming years. Keep yourself up to date on any changes but concentrate on your studies for now. the advice on the contents of your training is good advice, we were almost tripped up by a lack of paeds training in OHs course.
Take care and good luck
Tom
obviously i will definatly not mention it in my uni nursing degree interview! i very much doubt i would be offered a place if i say i plan to move to canada ASAP after graduating! thanks.
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Agree not a good idea to state planning on immigration as soon as I qualify however we are seeing more and more newly qualified nurses struggling to find work. One thing you could say is that you want to gain experience in all areas as you are not sure completely which one you would like to work in although adult would be the better option
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hi
I would agree that you shouldnt let the uni know your single focus is moving to canada but as silverdragon says a desire to get a wide range of experience is a good thing.
Once you are accepted for the course the uni wont care. Given the current state of nurse employment in the UK I would be very surprised if you were the only student aiming for a career elsewhere. My OH had students on her course who did their electives in other countries quite openly intending to work there and the Uni did all they could to help.
Make all the required noises to get on the course and then focus yourself toward making sure your course covers as many of the Canadian problem areas as possible.
HTH
Tom
I would agree that you shouldnt let the uni know your single focus is moving to canada but as silverdragon says a desire to get a wide range of experience is a good thing.
Once you are accepted for the course the uni wont care. Given the current state of nurse employment in the UK I would be very surprised if you were the only student aiming for a career elsewhere. My OH had students on her course who did their electives in other countries quite openly intending to work there and the Uni did all they could to help.
Make all the required noises to get on the course and then focus yourself toward making sure your course covers as many of the Canadian problem areas as possible.
HTH
Tom
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hi
I would agree that you shouldnt let the uni know your single focus is moving to canada but as silverdragon says a desire to get a wide range of experience is a good thing.
Once you are accepted for the course the uni wont care. Given the current state of nurse employment in the UK I would be very surprised if you were the only student aiming for a career elsewhere. My OH had students on her course who did their electives in other countries quite openly intending to work there and the Uni did all they could to help.
Make all the required noises to get on the course and then focus yourself toward making sure your course covers as many of the Canadian problem areas as possible.
HTH
Tom
I would agree that you shouldnt let the uni know your single focus is moving to canada but as silverdragon says a desire to get a wide range of experience is a good thing.
Once you are accepted for the course the uni wont care. Given the current state of nurse employment in the UK I would be very surprised if you were the only student aiming for a career elsewhere. My OH had students on her course who did their electives in other countries quite openly intending to work there and the Uni did all they could to help.
Make all the required noises to get on the course and then focus yourself toward making sure your course covers as many of the Canadian problem areas as possible.
HTH
Tom
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I have never seen any rules that say you must stay in the UK. Not sure how they can enforce it anyway when many are struggling to find work
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Hi
there are no rules about giving the NHS any of your time after qualifying, the NHS doesnt fund your training directly, the government does, the same way they do all the other courses. The NHS has a vested interest in assisting with your training as the principle destination of most graduates but you have no obligations.
I understand there are universities down south, Bristol I think is one, that are starting to offer top up and transfer courses for nurses who cant get work here and now want to go abroad so I dont think in principle you have any issues with your plan.
My OH gave up a decent full time job to go and do her nurse training and it was hard, we also had 2 pregnancies in the 3 years (long story dont ask) we struggled but we managed and it has opened up this chance for us. We have been here 3 weeks and absolutely know its the best thing we have ever done.
Best of luck
Tom
there are no rules about giving the NHS any of your time after qualifying, the NHS doesnt fund your training directly, the government does, the same way they do all the other courses. The NHS has a vested interest in assisting with your training as the principle destination of most graduates but you have no obligations.
I understand there are universities down south, Bristol I think is one, that are starting to offer top up and transfer courses for nurses who cant get work here and now want to go abroad so I dont think in principle you have any issues with your plan.
My OH gave up a decent full time job to go and do her nurse training and it was hard, we also had 2 pregnancies in the 3 years (long story dont ask) we struggled but we managed and it has opened up this chance for us. We have been here 3 weeks and absolutely know its the best thing we have ever done.
Best of luck
Tom
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Hi
there are no rules about giving the NHS any of your time after qualifying, the NHS doesnt fund your training directly, the government does, the same way they do all the other courses. The NHS has a vested interest in assisting with your training as the principle destination of most graduates but you have no obligations.
I understand there are universities down south, Bristol I think is one, that are starting to offer top up and transfer courses for nurses who cant get work here and now want to go abroad so I dont think in principle you have any issues with your plan.
My OH gave up a decent full time job to go and do her nurse training and it was hard, we also had 2 pregnancies in the 3 years (long story dont ask) we struggled but we managed and it has opened up this chance for us. We have been here 3 weeks and absolutely know its the best thing we have ever done.
Best of luck
Tom
there are no rules about giving the NHS any of your time after qualifying, the NHS doesnt fund your training directly, the government does, the same way they do all the other courses. The NHS has a vested interest in assisting with your training as the principle destination of most graduates but you have no obligations.
I understand there are universities down south, Bristol I think is one, that are starting to offer top up and transfer courses for nurses who cant get work here and now want to go abroad so I dont think in principle you have any issues with your plan.
My OH gave up a decent full time job to go and do her nurse training and it was hard, we also had 2 pregnancies in the 3 years (long story dont ask) we struggled but we managed and it has opened up this chance for us. We have been here 3 weeks and absolutely know its the best thing we have ever done.
Best of luck
Tom
alberta was our first choice but were put off by the apparent high cost of living and high house prices. how do you guys find it. of course by the time we get there it may be completely different. sorry to bombard you with questions. thanks