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Hi I am currently in the process of looking at emigrating to Canada with my hubby and two boys (4 & 8).

In the UK I am a Learning Disability Community Nurse. Has anyone emigrated that was one too as I have found that in Canada there only appears to be general nursing (RN) and mental health (MH).

I know i will have to do the CRNE test but not sure my Dip He in Ld nursing and Bsc Hons Community Speacialist Practitioner will count????

Please advise x :)

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*paging Silverdragon, would Silverdragon come to the forum please* :D

Hope she sees this and can help you soon.

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Which province do you want to settle down?

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Only a few provinces accept mental health otherwise you will be expected by provincial colleges to be general trained so if your transcripts consist of clinical and theory in Paeds, Mental Health, Obstetrics and Adult then most required by provincial colleges will be some form of assessment before eligibility to sit CRNE. Only real way will be to apply to the provincial college of RN and see what happens

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We havent decided yet but thinking of Toronto- only a possibility though!

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Hi Silverdragon, im not a MH nures im a LD. I work with people that have both but my speaciality is LD.

Sorry what do you mean transcript?

Thank you for advice x

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As silverdragon has stated etc..and from my experience with 'nursing' so far - you will unfortunately have to do a significant update in order to get up to the canadian standard of nursing.

One of my friends who was a LD nurse had to re-do her entire nursing course - as what she studied was totally irrelevant and inapplicable to what canadian nursing requires. However, this is what happened to her. I am unsure about anybody else!

As stated above, they will ask how many theory and practical hours you did during your training. surgical, medical, paeds etc.

If you are thinking of ontario - then get yourself onto http://www.cno.org and see what the forms need you to fill in. If you are finding you did no surgical, no medical and no paeds clinical or theory..then unfortunately (and probably right to assume) that you will have to do a significant update.

Hope this helps!

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A transcript is from your university and shows what you studied over the three years within the university.

It highlights your grades, your clinical and theory hours whist highlighting what areas you gained your hours in.

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Thank you it does help but has deflated me a little!

Im not sure what i will do. I take it you mean by redoing the course you mean starting a fresh at university in Toronto? I would then wander about fees, etc etc!

We did lots of hours in college and they were mainly placement based, so there is a lot of hours but they are all hours within learning disability homes, community teams. I did one placement on a materniny unit and childrens ward.

Oh what to do now???

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Just thinking!!! my husband is a tiler, roofer and slater and has years of experience. We did want to change roles for a while and since nursing is well paid it sounded like a good idea. I was going to go work and he was going to be the house husband and work part time (like i do and have done since we had our children).

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Not quite start fresh, but a 'top up' of your current knowledge.
I am unsure how long it is - i've read people doing a year long course and so forth.
Do not let it put you off. It should give you drive and ambition to succeed.
:-). If you want it, get out and do it! :D

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See if you can get a copy of your transcripts and see what clinical and theory hours you have and in what. That may make things easier. Depending on that will depends on what is required by you as a top up.

If it is something you really want then just means a few hurdles to jump over but with determination it can be done just may take a little longer

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Hi Silverdragon
I have rang my university as i cant find my transcript, its going to cost £40 to get it replaced :frown:! I have a copy of my placements (ie child respite unit for 8 wks) will this do or do i need the actual thing? If so then what do i do with it!!!

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Oh forgot to say I have a copy of my BSc Hons Transcript but i am presuming it will be better if i have a copy of my diphe then bsc hons???

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When you submit your application to the college a copy of your transcripts has to go directly from your university. They will not accept it from you. Your transcripts has to show both clinical and theory hours and amount of hours in each

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There are two kinds of transcript a normal & full version. The full version rarely covers all the details about hours done in each area for theory & practice. My husband had to send his request to his Uni and ask for a full breakdown of hours done for each module of the course & each placement to be done. This took a couple of weeks to do but was exactly what they required. It didn't cost any more either. We made a copy of it & had it certified when doing all our other bits as may need again for the CEC or FSW visa process. Good luck :fingerscrossed: The whole process from getting the job offer to getting our visa was exactly 9 months! We got out TWP yesterday & are looking at flying out mid-January!:eek:

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Hi
I am a British trained RN currently here in Canada and the amount of hoops I have had to jump through is quite excessive however my process has taken 5 months so far started it in the UK and still sorting things out here. I worked in both mental health and learning disability as a care manager before I trained as a nurse, one of the main reasons I trained as a general was so that I would eventually leave the UK for pastures new, I really do not know how it works re RNLD out here, I would like to wish you all the best and be prepared for a lot of ups and downs it is not straightforward, however I am sure for some nurses coming here the process may have been a little easier.........................

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So there is no point of me trying to get a copy of it so I can tell the registered nurses body what hours I have. The problem is is we are not even sure if we are definitely going to do this and first thing is I need to find out how much extra time I will/may need to do where I go to Canada. I.e if I will have to do another 1 year is so at Uni in Canada then it will not be worth me doing it.

Do I definitely have to choose an area in which we may live in and then apply to the nursing council. Would they pass on my transcript to another council if I swapped areas to live in I.e if I sent it to Ontario then wanted to live in BC? That would then cost me another £50!!!

You mentioned an application to college, what's that for? I'm guessing to top up my qualifications!!!
Thank you silverdragon you are the font of all nursing knowledge! :thumbsup:

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Nursing bodies in Canada are provincial colleges of RN and I am not sure how it works in regards moving provinces to work when trained outside of Canada. Most tend to decide where they plan on living and then apply to that provincial college as the process even for Canadians is expensive. I think if you have experience in one province and have already passed CRNE then it may be a bit easier but I do not have first hand experience in this.

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As far as I am aware the colleges do not pass on details. I have a few nurses from different provinces working for me and each one has to prove to the next province their eligibility to have a licence awarded. So it would be best if you chose where you want to start, once you get your PR then you can move around the country. Otherwise you will need new LMO's and TWPs for each move :(

The application to the college, is to the regulating body ie. College and Association of Registered Nurses of Alberta (or other province) (I believe that is what Silverdragon meant). The college will ascertain your eligability for a licence to practice.

Hope this helps and good luck. :fingerscrossed:

Mad Jockette :D

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Hi Im Steve and a registered psych nurse in British Columbia and been here 5 years
you might like to read my neww post as Im having a nightmare living here so will quickly give you the heads up
if you can convince them that learning disability is a specialized part of psych nursing then you should have no problems getting a job ......Its all about filling nursing positions as everyone is retiring

Canada pays very well and decent benefits. its downsize is alot of care is really antiquated.
learning disabilities has not really been invented here yet and the word retard and brain dead still is comon place. LD is lumped together with mental health so if they are dually diagnosed, Schizophrenia takes presidence over LD
So its a bit tongue in cheek and services are awful

Good thing about Canada is its easy to get into
bad thing is its an atrocious place to try and stay, immigration is a real nightmare like Im going through now
if it was me and the great power of retrespect I would go somewhere else!
I wish I had stayed in Australia

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Steve, sorry to hear you are having a hard time. Hoping it is all sorted out for you very soon.

:fingerscrossed: