not sure about the move from England to Canada
Aug 25th 2015, 4:32 pm
#46
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Re: not sure about the move from England to Canada
When I mentioned them being offered through the employer I meant for full-time employees. I should have been more clear.
I didn't have coverage two years ago (working for a startup very early in the process so no benefits) and I wasn't charged for crutches in the emergency room nor did I pay a penny for any of the large boxes of supplies (from a specialist pharmacy that delivered to the home) or the nursing care that I had at home daily for about nine months for a version of that flesh eating disease thingy that very nearly cost me my foot, and possibly my life.
I didn't have coverage two years ago (working for a startup very early in the process so no benefits) and I wasn't charged for crutches in the emergency room nor did I pay a penny for any of the large boxes of supplies (from a specialist pharmacy that delivered to the home) or the nursing care that I had at home daily for about nine months for a version of that flesh eating disease thingy that very nearly cost me my foot, and possibly my life.
I know that bills are sent out for crutches etc and there are pretty large signs in the hospitals telling you there may be charges not covered by OHIP.
I see many patients with rotten teeth or no teeth as they can't afford dental care. Patients tell me they don't take their meds as they can't afford them. People without hearing aids, again because they can't afford them and aren't familiar with how to get some funding through welfare. My husband goes into people's homes as part of his job and sees sone awful examples of rural poverty.
Non insulated homes, mould, bad wells, all health hazards and affecting those who need a more comprehensive healthcare system the most.
Cochair, you often comment on the variations across Canada but what you don't seem to recognize are the differences between urban and rural living in Ontario. Let alone how those with low income get by.
Aug 25th 2015, 4:34 pm
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Re: not sure about the move from England to Canada
I wonder whether he would actually settle and feel 100% at home after 13 years away...why did he leave in the first place? Also both wife and children should be one of his priorities so maybe he could compromise and live off the reservation but close enough to visit?
Aug 25th 2015, 5:09 pm
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Re: not sure about the move from England to Canada
We've been here for 9 years and I'm still part time. I may not wish to be full time but there's been no chance of that happening anyway. My husband has seasonal work so that's not full time either.
I know that bills are sent out for crutches etc and there are pretty large signs in the hospitals telling you there may be charges not covered by OHIP.
I see many patients with rotten teeth or no teeth as they can't afford dental care. Patients tell me they don't take their meds as they can't afford them. People without hearing aids, again because they can't afford them and aren't familiar with how to get some funding through welfare. My husband goes into people's homes as part of his job and sees sone awful examples of rural poverty.
Non insulated homes, mould, bad wells, all health hazards and affecting those who need a more comprehensive healthcare system the most.
Cochair, you often comment on the variations across Canada but what you don't seem to recognize are the differences between urban and rural living in Ontario. Let alone how those with low income get by.
I know that bills are sent out for crutches etc and there are pretty large signs in the hospitals telling you there may be charges not covered by OHIP.
I see many patients with rotten teeth or no teeth as they can't afford dental care. Patients tell me they don't take their meds as they can't afford them. People without hearing aids, again because they can't afford them and aren't familiar with how to get some funding through welfare. My husband goes into people's homes as part of his job and sees sone awful examples of rural poverty.
Non insulated homes, mould, bad wells, all health hazards and affecting those who need a more comprehensive healthcare system the most.
Cochair, you often comment on the variations across Canada but what you don't seem to recognize are the differences between urban and rural living in Ontario. Let alone how those with low income get by.
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Aug 25th 2015, 5:45 pm
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Re: not sure about the move from England to Canada
If he is Canadian he is not Native American, he is Canadian First Nations (I have several native friends who are very particular about that distinction).
It would help if you could provide the name of the rez. Some are nice while others are horrible. And knowing the name would enable us to check the location so as to determine how far you would have to travel to get into a town or city (well what passes for a city up north). If there is some economic activity on the reservation you might be able to find a job but, if not, it will be all but impossible for you to find employment up there once the time came (I suppose you could travel into Sudbury every day but it would not be a fun drive in the winter).
Also, you need to be aware of how harsh the winters can be up there. I have lived in Ontario most of my life and I wouldn't want to spend a winter in Sudbury or North Bay (the closest urban areas of any size), much less further out on a reservation.
It would help if you could provide the name of the rez. Some are nice while others are horrible. And knowing the name would enable us to check the location so as to determine how far you would have to travel to get into a town or city (well what passes for a city up north). If there is some economic activity on the reservation you might be able to find a job but, if not, it will be all but impossible for you to find employment up there once the time came (I suppose you could travel into Sudbury every day but it would not be a fun drive in the winter).
Also, you need to be aware of how harsh the winters can be up there. I have lived in Ontario most of my life and I wouldn't want to spend a winter in Sudbury or North Bay (the closest urban areas of any size), much less further out on a reservation.
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Aug 25th 2015, 6:50 pm
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Re: not sure about the move from England to Canada
We last had one here in the Toronto area in Decmber 2013. I cannot remember the last one before that so no, they are not a regular occurrence.
While there are things that have to be paid for, the majority of what one needs is covered through the provincial program or can be covered through supplemental benefits (either provided by the employer or purchased privately).
Then your daughter isn't working full time. I was referring to full time employees but should have been more clear about that.
Then you need a better healthcare plan through your employer. If your employer won't offer one you need to find a better job that does. My Mum is diabetic and doesn't pay a penny for her diabetic supplies because my Dad's healthcare plan through his former employer (he is a retiree) covers everything.
Who provides your benefits? Never in my life have I had to pay a monthly co-pay here in Ontario.
Not for those with decent benefits, which you do not seem to have.
While there are things that have to be paid for, the majority of what one needs is covered through the provincial program or can be covered through supplemental benefits (either provided by the employer or purchased privately).
Then your daughter isn't working full time. I was referring to full time employees but should have been more clear about that.
Then you need a better healthcare plan through your employer. If your employer won't offer one you need to find a better job that does. My Mum is diabetic and doesn't pay a penny for her diabetic supplies because my Dad's healthcare plan through his former employer (he is a retiree) covers everything.
Who provides your benefits? Never in my life have I had to pay a monthly co-pay here in Ontario.
Not for those with decent benefits, which you do not seem to have.
I've been here 11 years and in that time, I have had 1 employer offer benefits, my wife is a born and raised Canadian and she has never had any company offer benefits.
In BC if your making over 22,000 a year, your paying monthly healthcare costs even if you never use a medical service via monthly premiums that vary by family size and income, but only those under 30k a year get any reduction in their monthly premiums.
Healthcare costs need to be accounted for if someone is coming from the UK to Canada, as there are healthcare costs in Canada that they don't have in the UK, and every province has a slew of things they do not cover.
Aug 25th 2015, 8:15 pm
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Re: not sure about the move from England to Canada
My husband is Canadian and Im English, hes been here for 13 years and is hankering to go back home (Ontario). Im not at all sure having been there once but didnt really see much of canada as we went to see his family who live up north...I will also be leaving 2 children who will be in their early 20s....Im needing honest views from Brits who now live in Canada both positive and negative on how they feel now they are living there.. Thank You ...xx
I know some couples in Canada who have kids in their 20s and get by with Skype, visits etc. but not totally ideal. I have a similar situation as could return to Canada with kids in their 20s in the UK. Though again kids do travel, and have to live their own lives.
I realise this is not your only issue with moving, Wishing You Well.
Aug 25th 2015, 8:17 pm
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Re: not sure about the move from England to Canada
We pay about 50 for a cleaning with coverage, just a check up with no work done is 30 out of pocket.
Crowns, bridges are not covered , root canals might be but not always, wisdom teeth are if compacted otherwise they are not.
Crowns, bridges are not covered , root canals might be but not always, wisdom teeth are if compacted otherwise they are not.
I wish I had health benefits.
Costs me $80 plus tax for a 6 monthly clean and check up at the local not-for-profit dentist.
Every two years they take X-rays which is another $60 plus tax..
Thankfully I've not required anything to be done recently.
Then there is my lower back. I wish I could go and see a chiropractor but I can't afford the weekly cost at the moment.
Hoping for a job with benefits soon but not holding my breath with the Canadian economy sinking into recession.
Costs me $80 plus tax for a 6 monthly clean and check up at the local not-for-profit dentist.
Every two years they take X-rays which is another $60 plus tax..
Thankfully I've not required anything to be done recently.
Then there is my lower back. I wish I could go and see a chiropractor but I can't afford the weekly cost at the moment.
Hoping for a job with benefits soon but not holding my breath with the Canadian economy sinking into recession.
Aug 25th 2015, 8:27 pm
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Re: not sure about the move from England to Canada
And it can take welfare /disability months or even a year or longer to make a decision on medical funding.
My wife has been waiting 4 or 5 months or so for a decision for covering a medical device.
My wife has been waiting 4 or 5 months or so for a decision for covering a medical device.
We've been here for 9 years and I'm still part time. I may not wish to be full time but there's been no chance of that happening anyway. My husband has seasonal work so that's not full time either.
I know that bills are sent out for crutches etc and there are pretty large signs in the hospitals telling you there may be charges not covered by OHIP.
I see many patients with rotten teeth or no teeth as they can't afford dental care. Patients tell me they don't take their meds as they can't afford them. People without hearing aids, again because they can't afford them and aren't familiar with how to get some funding through welfare. My husband goes into people's homes as part of his job and sees sone awful examples of rural poverty.
Non insulated homes, mould, bad wells, all health hazards and affecting those who need a more comprehensive healthcare system the most.
Cochair, you often comment on the variations across Canada but what you don't seem to recognize are the differences between urban and rural living in Ontario. Let alone how those with low income get by.
I know that bills are sent out for crutches etc and there are pretty large signs in the hospitals telling you there may be charges not covered by OHIP.
I see many patients with rotten teeth or no teeth as they can't afford dental care. Patients tell me they don't take their meds as they can't afford them. People without hearing aids, again because they can't afford them and aren't familiar with how to get some funding through welfare. My husband goes into people's homes as part of his job and sees sone awful examples of rural poverty.
Non insulated homes, mould, bad wells, all health hazards and affecting those who need a more comprehensive healthcare system the most.
Cochair, you often comment on the variations across Canada but what you don't seem to recognize are the differences between urban and rural living in Ontario. Let alone how those with low income get by.
Aug 25th 2015, 9:38 pm
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Re: not sure about the move from England to Canada
The reserve is called Atikameksheng Anishnawbek formally called Whitefish lake in Ontario...
Aug 26th 2015, 12:31 am
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Re: not sure about the move from England to Canada
I just noticed this thread and thought I should give my 2 cents worth.I lived in Sudbury for 20 yrs from 1975 to 1995. I went sight unseen because I was offered a teaching job at a critical time in my life. Then, as now,teaching jobs were hard to get.
Sudbury was then, and I assume now, a decent place to live.I retired in 1995 and have not been back since. I lived in one of the nicer areas ( Lockerby ) directly across Paris St. from Nepawhan Lake. My daughter attended MacLeod Public School and then Lockerby Composite High School. Both were excellent schools.
Although I had been here for 17 years I still found living in Sudbury somewhat difficult. The weather in winter was bitterly cold with many snow storms /blizzards. All cars needed a block heater to be plugged in to an electrical outlet so that they would start. In summer it was extremely hot and humid (and having to deal with mosquitoes and black flies was not pleasant) and eventually I found it absolutely necessary to have a window air conditioner in my apartment. I found that I needed to get away for a holiday at least once a year for at least two or three weeks and a shorter holiday at Christmas and Easter . I used to drive to Toronto and it took me between 4 1/2 to 5 hrs without stopping on highway 69 which then was only two lanes until reaching Barrie and highway 400.
When my parents came to visit my father's comment was 'nothing but trees, rocks and water'.
I assumed that the Native reservation you were talking about would be the Whitefish Lake Indian Reservation. The local school is, I believe, R.H. Murray. I used to visit that school once in a while when I was seconded to the music dept. It is small., not many students.I believe from JK to grade 8.
As usual, the better the area you live in , the better the schools are likely to be. But, I have been away for a long time so I do not know.
I can only agree with most posters and suggest that you think long and hard before making a decision. Personally, I would not consider moving from the UK because I sincerely believe the children would have better opportunities there.But that would depend, I suppose, on how important the native culture is to your family
I know nothing about living conditions on a reserve but would it be possible for you and your family to live in Sudbury and just visit the reservation?
If I can be of any help please let me know.
Sudbury was then, and I assume now, a decent place to live.I retired in 1995 and have not been back since. I lived in one of the nicer areas ( Lockerby ) directly across Paris St. from Nepawhan Lake. My daughter attended MacLeod Public School and then Lockerby Composite High School. Both were excellent schools.
Although I had been here for 17 years I still found living in Sudbury somewhat difficult. The weather in winter was bitterly cold with many snow storms /blizzards. All cars needed a block heater to be plugged in to an electrical outlet so that they would start. In summer it was extremely hot and humid (and having to deal with mosquitoes and black flies was not pleasant) and eventually I found it absolutely necessary to have a window air conditioner in my apartment. I found that I needed to get away for a holiday at least once a year for at least two or three weeks and a shorter holiday at Christmas and Easter . I used to drive to Toronto and it took me between 4 1/2 to 5 hrs without stopping on highway 69 which then was only two lanes until reaching Barrie and highway 400.
When my parents came to visit my father's comment was 'nothing but trees, rocks and water'.
I assumed that the Native reservation you were talking about would be the Whitefish Lake Indian Reservation. The local school is, I believe, R.H. Murray. I used to visit that school once in a while when I was seconded to the music dept. It is small., not many students.I believe from JK to grade 8.
As usual, the better the area you live in , the better the schools are likely to be. But, I have been away for a long time so I do not know.
I can only agree with most posters and suggest that you think long and hard before making a decision. Personally, I would not consider moving from the UK because I sincerely believe the children would have better opportunities there.But that would depend, I suppose, on how important the native culture is to your family
I know nothing about living conditions on a reserve but would it be possible for you and your family to live in Sudbury and just visit the reservation?
If I can be of any help please let me know.
Aug 26th 2015, 2:40 am
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Re: not sure about the move from England to Canada
OP your going to move from the UK to a reserve in northern Ontario OMG good luck with that one.
Aug 26th 2015, 8:52 am
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Re: not sure about the move from England to Canada
I passed the outskirts of Sudbury on Via Rail, man was that area cold. (January) If I recall the stop was like 10km from the town, a good number of people got off the train there though.
If the train is on-time with no delays it's a 7 hour or so trip from Toronto. Took us about 10 hours though due to freight train issues in front of our train.
It's not a daily train.
If the train is on-time with no delays it's a 7 hour or so trip from Toronto. Took us about 10 hours though due to freight train issues in front of our train.
It's not a daily train.
Aug 26th 2015, 1:35 pm
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Re: not sure about the move from England to Canada
Thanks Largo..youve said some very useful things.. what your dad said rang true as my almost identical words were..theres nothing but lakes and pine trees..lol..My husband has just come back from nearly a month there with our 3 children, they stayed with his father who lives in whitefish lake, im not sure if hes got the holiday blues but he seems pretty adamant he wants to go back as he thinks the community spirit and opportunities will be bettr for the kids.. I dont think so as they were surrounded with family who are obviously going to be nice to them all but my youngest had a guy at the local powow tell him to "go back to his white family"..so i can see there would be some racism directed at them..as although they are half native americans 2 of the kids are white skinned and blue eyes so to some natives they will never be seen as natives..
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Aug 26th 2015, 1:42 pm
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and although i havent named everyone on my messages, i do appreciate everyones time in helping me with your input and views..xx
