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binturong Aug 9th 2005 12:24 am

Re: Not going now
 

Originally Posted by matty266
The biggest reason i have found is any country you go will be exspensive in places, Ie london and Vancover, if you go out in the sticks lets say reading or nelson then it will be cheaper.

Reading is hardly 'the sticks'!

And as for the 'stigma of shopping in charity shops', well I shop in them all the time and have never felt any. Envy, sometimes, for the bargains I've picked up, but no stigma. I think it depends very much on your social circle.

CalgaryBlade Aug 9th 2005 12:56 am

Re: Not going now
 
"At the end of the day it's what will work for you. I'm not swapping all this just to struggle on a new mortgage earning CAD $55k"

Ã?f you're 50 mins commute from London and your mortgage is "low", why would you need a new mortgage in Calgary. Chances are if you live anywhere decent in the south east of England you wouldn't need a mortgage at all and without a mortgage you would struggle on CAD 55K.

You're right, it depends what you're looking for. But with two children and having live in London for over 10 years, I'll take the cleanliness, friendliness and outdoor sporting opportunities that Calgary provides.

Majj Aug 9th 2005 1:45 am

Re: Not going now
 

Originally Posted by CalgaryBlade
"At the end of the day it's what will work for you. I'm not swapping all this just to struggle on a new mortgage earning CAD $55k"

Ã?f you're 50 mins commute from London and your mortgage is "low", why would you need a new mortgage in Calgary. Chances are if you live anywhere decent in the south east of England you wouldn't need a mortgage at all and without a mortgage you would struggle on CAD 55K.

Orginally my plan was to retain the house in the UK as an investment, rent it and sell up maybe 10/15 years doen the road. Hence the requirment for a 2nd mortgage.

You're right, it depends what you're looking for. But with two children and having live in London for over 10 years, I'll take the cleanliness, friendliness and outdoor sporting opportunities that Calgary provides.

With my two children, I'll stay put and take the friendliness of my neighbours, close proximity to friends, family and 25 days holidays from work.

Diplomat Aug 21st 2005 6:10 am

Re: Not going now
 
Hi everyone, I have got to say that this site is extremely interesting as we are thinking of leaving the UK, reasons are clear; I am surely not alone when I say I am sick of supporting millions of illegal immigrants in the UK who are bleeding the NHS and tax payer dry. Our spineless government cant even get
known terrorists charged with serious offences, he cant even take away the benefits they have been claiming for several years, we are a soft touch in Europe, a haven for the workshy and foreign criminal alike.

I'll end by asking this question to ordinary citizens of Canada,
" Would you pay $12 dollars a day every time you drive into your city
centre ?"
Yes it's another tax levied on law abiding brits to cover government
spending.
May your immigration process continue to be expensive and selective, it
makes sense......Thankyou.

wcitizen Aug 21st 2005 6:39 am

Re: Not going now
 

Originally Posted by Diplomat
I am sick of supporting millions of illegal immigrants in the UK who are bleeding the NHS and tax payer dry.

Hmm! I know the system is being abused by some "bogus" asylum seekers, but with THIS attitude you want to move to a country that almost EVERYBODY is immigrant? :)



Originally Posted by Diplomat
" Would you pay $12 dollars a day every time you drive into your city centre ?"

Canada has A LOT of such taxes:gas tax, booze tax, etc etc!

Happydayz Aug 21st 2005 7:14 am

Re: Not going now
 

Originally Posted by Diplomat
Hi everyone, I have got to say that this site is extremely interesting as we are thinking of leaving the UK, reasons are clear; I am surely not alone when I say I am sick of supporting millions of illegal immigrants in the UK who are bleeding the NHS and tax payer dry. Our spineless government cant even get
known terrorists charged with serious offences, he cant even take away the benefits they have been claiming for several years, we are a soft touch in Europe, a haven for the workshy and foreign criminal alike.

I'll end by asking this question to ordinary citizens of Canada,
" Would you pay $12 dollars a day every time you drive into your city
centre ?"
Yes it's another tax levied on law abiding brits to cover government
spending.
May your immigration process continue to be expensive and selective, it
makes sense......Thankyou.

Hear hear, get out now before they close the doors.

Hudman Aug 21st 2005 7:27 am

Re: Not going now
 
[QUOTE=Diplomat]Hi everyone, I have got to say that this site is extremely interesting as we are thinking of leaving the UK, reasons are clear; I am surely not alone when I say I am sick of supporting millions of illegal immigrants in the UK who are bleeding the NHS and tax payer dry. Our spineless government cant even get
known terrorists charged with serious offences, he cant even take away the benefits they have been claiming for several years, we are a soft touch in Europe, a haven for the workshy and foreign criminal alike.

hey its not the so called millions of illegal immigrants who are vomiting and rampaging through our city centres every weekend. A lot of these folks are doing the jobs our lazy scrots aint prepared to do.
As said Canada is a immigrant based society so you'll have all that in Canada.

buzz365 Aug 21st 2005 10:52 am

Re: Not going now
 

Originally Posted by Diplomat
Hi everyone, I have got to say that this site is extremely interesting as we are thinking of leaving the UK, reasons are clear; I am surely not alone when I say I am sick of supporting millions of illegal immigrants in the UK who are bleeding the NHS and tax payer dry. Our spineless government cant even get
known terrorists charged with serious offences, he cant even take away the benefits they have been claiming for several years, we are a soft touch in Europe, a haven for the workshy and foreign criminal alike.

I'll end by asking this question to ordinary citizens of Canada,
" Would you pay $12 dollars a day every time you drive into your city
centre ?"
Yes it's another tax levied on law abiding brits to cover government
spending.
May your immigration process continue to be expensive and selective, it
makes sense......Thankyou.

What a load of rubbish, illegal immigrants tend not to want to be seen so don’t access NHS or other resources. As for, ` our spineless government cant even get
Known terrorists charged with serious offences`, whom on earth are you talking about? Do you know some? Because god knows the last so called known terrorist our government knew about was shot dead and turned out to be a tourist with an out of date visa. I can assure you that the greatest percentage of criminals in this country are home born and bred. Which says more about our values than those of other countries. Part of the reason why the taxpayer is being bled dry is because our government is currently waging a war abroad, which is costing taxpayers a small fortune.
I have a news flash for you where ever you go to some degree your going to see the same people doing the same things, but just with a different accent. If your thinking of moving to Canada you will find it is made of loads of immigrants, of which you will be one. Lets hope they will not judge you solely on the fact that you have moved to their country to make a better life for yourself. You have proved in true brit style that you really do believe being a brit abroad makes you special. Those days have long died along with queen Victoria.
I too hope the immigration process continues to be selective as it might omit people like you.

Diplomat Aug 22nd 2005 12:38 am

Re: Not going now
 

Originally Posted by buzz365
What a load of rubbish, illegal immigrants tend not to want to be seen so don’t access NHS or other resources. As for, ` our spineless government cant even get
Known terrorists charged with serious offences`, whom on earth are you talking about? Do you know some? Because god knows the last so called known terrorist our government knew about was shot dead and turned out to be a tourist with an out of date visa. I can assure you that the greatest percentage of criminals in this country are home born and bred. Which says more about our values than those of other countries. Part of the reason why the taxpayer is being bled dry is because our government is currently waging a war abroad, which is costing taxpayers a small fortune.
I have a news flash for you where ever you go to some degree your going to see the same people doing the same things, but just with a different accent. If your thinking of moving to Canada you will find it is made of loads of immigrants, of which you will be one. Lets hope they will not judge you solely on the fact that you have moved to their country to make a better life for yourself. You have proved in true brit style that you really do believe being a brit abroad makes you special. Those days have long died along with queen Victoria.
I too hope the immigration process continues to be selective as it might omit people like you.

Happydayz, thanks, you are obviously living in the real world.

Buzz 365, its because of the naive left wing attitude of yours that the UK is
in a rapidly increasing downward spiral, are the illegals doing jobs we wouldn't do, the same ones that entered the UK in the back of a truck or clinging to the underside of the Eurotunnel trains?
It's a fact that our government has lost control of the situation, not my 'deranged opinion'.
As for the process weeding me out, I can live with that, at least i'm prepared to go through it; I doubt it though as I have high moral standards
integrity and the utmost respect for any decent law abiding citizen wherever they may come from. (got lots of points too).
You are right about the war on Iraq, its a war for oil, not human rights; oh the
innocent Brazilian tourist you mention was leaving a suspect terrorists
abode, dont suppose he was there for tea and scones!
Right again, Brits aren't special, when I go to France I speak French, when I
go to to Turkey I take a language guide and learn a couple of phrases.
So, dont be so judgmental, freedom of speech is for everyone, my opinions are based on fact........Motto!!
WHEN IN ROME DO AS THE ROMANS DO. (and support yourself!)

buzz365 Aug 22nd 2005 1:49 am

Re: Not going now
 

Originally Posted by Diplomat
Happydayz, thanks, you are obviously living in the real world.

Buzz 365, its because of the naive left wing attitude of yours that the UK is
in a rapidly increasing downward spiral, are the illegals doing jobs we wouldn't do, the same ones that entered the UK in the back of a truck or clinging to the underside of the Eurotunnel trains?
It's a fact that our government has lost control of the situation, not my 'deranged opinion'.
As for the process weeding me out, I can live with that, at least i'm prepared to go through it; I doubt it though as I have high moral standards
integrity and the utmost respect for any decent law abiding citizen wherever they may come from. (got lots of points too).
You are right about the war on Iraq, its a war for oil, not human rights; oh the
innocent Brazilian tourist you mention was leaving a suspect terrorists
abode, dont suppose he was there for tea and scones!
Right again, Brits aren't special, when I go to France I speak French, when I
go to to Turkey I take a language guide and learn a couple of phrases.
So, dont be so judgmental, freedom of speech is for everyone, my opinions are based on fact........Motto!!
WHEN IN ROME DO AS THE ROMANS DO. (and support yourself!)

It’s a bit rich for you to tell me not to be so judgmental when the first thing you respond with is,` Buzz 365, its because of the naive left wing attitude of yours that the UK is
in a rapidly increasing downward spiral`, secondly what about my freedom of speech. As for the poor Brazilian who was shot dead. He wasn’t living in the abode of a terrorist; he was living in a flat above a suspected terrorist, who I believe they believe they didn’t even charge. So no he wasn’t there for tea and scones as you put it. He was there as an innocent man trying to get on with his life. You say you have the highest moral standards, integrity and utmost respect for any decent law abiding citizen wherever they may come from. Is that provided they think just like you?

How do you tell these illegal people from the legal ones by the way, how do you judge that? When you walk the streets can you tell them apart?

The plain truth is that right now the uk has people entering it legally with rights to live and work. Very few people in the country are actually illegal.

hot wasabi peas Aug 22nd 2005 2:09 am

Re: Not going now
 

Originally Posted by buzz365
The plain truth is that right now the uk has people entering it legally with rights to live and work. Very few people in the country are actually illegal.

Hey my visa ran out last month! I'm an illegal immigrant! An illegal! I can't decide if I'm a "sponger!!!!!" or a "scrounger!!!!" but I feel the temptation to do something criminal coming on strong. I think I'll even take up smoking or standing around on the pavement in front of shops!!!! I was thinking of going to the hospital but I kind of like spreading my infections around and as it happens my neighbour just invited me over for tea and scones.

SANDRAPAUL Aug 22nd 2005 2:12 am

Re: Not going now
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4637273.stm

and thats from the Government. And I bet its conservative as its not something thet currently want to shout from the rooftop.

BAY Aug 22nd 2005 2:32 am

Re: Not going now
 

Originally Posted by SANDRAPAUL
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4637273.stm

and thats from the Government. And I bet its conservative as its not something thet currently want to shout from the rooftop.

You can probably double if not triple that number !

buzz365 Aug 22nd 2005 3:01 am

Re: Not going now
 

Originally Posted by BAY
You can probably double if not triple that number !

Oh please!.......and how many illegal people live in Canada?

Hudman Aug 22nd 2005 7:37 am

Re: Not going now
 

Originally Posted by Diplomat
Happydayz, thanks, you are obviously living in the real world.

Buzz 365, its because of the naive left wing attitude of yours that the UK is
in a rapidly increasing downward spiral, are the illegals doing jobs we wouldn't do, the same ones that entered the UK in the back of a truck or clinging to the underside of the Eurotunnel trains?
It's a fact that our government has lost control of the situation, not my 'deranged opinion'.
As for the process weeding me out, I can live with that, at least i'm prepared to go through it; I doubt it though as I have high moral standards
integrity and the utmost respect for any decent law abiding citizen wherever they may come from. (got lots of points too).
You are right about the war on Iraq, its a war for oil, not human rights; oh the
innocent Brazilian tourist you mention was leaving a suspect terrorists
abode, dont suppose he was there for tea and scones!
Right again, Brits aren't special, when I go to France I speak French, when I
go to to Turkey I take a language guide and learn a couple of phrases.
So, dont be so judgmental, freedom of speech is for everyone, my opinions are based on fact........Motto!!
WHEN IN ROME DO AS THE ROMANS DO. (and support yourself!)

The Roman bit is good. But using illegal immigrants as a backbone to get out of UK is a bit flakey. I bet Canada has no idea how many illegals are here, I am about 30km from the border where a tunnel was found from USA, a conduit for your illegal immigrants, as well as terrorists etc?.
Most Canadians I speak to think they are fairly safe from internal terrorist strikes as Canada is seen as quite an easy access to get to US.
As for left wing attutudes the laws are just as liberal as UK, and its only Canadians better social cohesion and values that are keeping things moderatly safe and "together" here.
I reackon there is more wrong in UK than statistics about illegals. I hope you high moral standards extend to your fellow Canadians as how will you know if they are legal or not?
Anyways good luck with your dreams its worth it!


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