North Vancouver Island dreams
#16
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 14,227
Re: North Vancouver Island dreams
I had a colleague at SFU who for various reasons also wanted to registered with BC College of Teachers. They evaluated his papers and told him that he needed to take an additional course. Turned out the course they wanted him to do was one he was teaching...
Unless things have changed they are a pain and very full of themselves. UBC actually went to court against them some years ago and won:
"The College of Teachers had established a detailed process for the assessment and approval of local training programs. The College’s Program Approval Team made a number of detailed recommendations for UBC’s training program. These recommendations addressed, among other things, the level of staffing, the student / supervisor ratio for the practice teaching, and the consultative process for the university and its sessional faculty advisors.
UBC declined to follow the recommendations asserting that the College was interfering in its internal affairs. The College refused to approve the UBC program. UBC went to court."
Unless things have changed they are a pain and very full of themselves. UBC actually went to court against them some years ago and won:
"The College of Teachers had established a detailed process for the assessment and approval of local training programs. The College’s Program Approval Team made a number of detailed recommendations for UBC’s training program. These recommendations addressed, among other things, the level of staffing, the student / supervisor ratio for the practice teaching, and the consultative process for the university and its sessional faculty advisors.
UBC declined to follow the recommendations asserting that the College was interfering in its internal affairs. The College refused to approve the UBC program. UBC went to court."
#17
Re: North Vancouver Island dreams
I had a colleague at SFU who for various reasons also wanted to registered with BC College of Teachers. They evaluated his papers and told him that he needed to take an additional course. Turned out the course they wanted him to do was one he was teaching...
Unless things have changed they are a pain and very full of themselves.
Unless things have changed they are a pain and very full of themselves.
#19
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 789
Re: North Vancouver Island dreams
Hello, everyone. I am a newbie to this site, so bear with me!
I have read all the stuff and am still confused. I so desperately want to relocate permanently to Vancouver Island, pref the North East coast.
Husband in IT, me a Primary teacher, both 40, no kids, just cats, own a home with a small mortgage here, some savings but mostly equity in house.
My job is on the list of shortage occupations in BC, but I would have to join the supply list when I arrived, so money an issue.
I just don't know how to evaluate the best route to apply. I am getting the paperwork together for my Brtish Columbia College of Teachers certificate, but it is likely that I will have to do some distance learning on Canadian history etc to qualify for the full certification that will allow me to teach. The advice i have read on the teaching front seems conflicting - some say it is hard to get a job, others that it is easy and it is listed as a shortage area....
My husband is well qualified in his area of expertise.
I just need some clarification of how things work and the best and quickest way to get over there!
I want to go NOW!
I have read all the stuff and am still confused. I so desperately want to relocate permanently to Vancouver Island, pref the North East coast.
Husband in IT, me a Primary teacher, both 40, no kids, just cats, own a home with a small mortgage here, some savings but mostly equity in house.
My job is on the list of shortage occupations in BC, but I would have to join the supply list when I arrived, so money an issue.
I just don't know how to evaluate the best route to apply. I am getting the paperwork together for my Brtish Columbia College of Teachers certificate, but it is likely that I will have to do some distance learning on Canadian history etc to qualify for the full certification that will allow me to teach. The advice i have read on the teaching front seems conflicting - some say it is hard to get a job, others that it is easy and it is listed as a shortage area....
My husband is well qualified in his area of expertise.
I just need some clarification of how things work and the best and quickest way to get over there!
I want to go NOW!
Hi there - we live between Courtenay and Campbell River - great part of the world. Can't see your husband having much luck in the IT field in the part of the Island you're looking at. As for teaching you stand more chance to get a job in the remote parts as less people want that. The north of the Island will be great for the life style you seem to want but not so good for getting jobs.
#20
Re: North Vancouver Island dreams
Hello, everyone!
Yep, lots of conflicting remarks on this site!
I don't give much for wiki articles - they are not real people's experiences and I find them to be often misleading or out of date.
I have contact with a teacher who relocated 3 years ago, became a PRINCIPAL after 2 years on the island and has now moved to the mainland. This proves that there are places for teachers on the Island in the North, which is where I want to be! As posters here have said, many Brits have relocated successfully, even teachers, so I am not disheartened by posters with negative comments. Unlike some in my line of work, I am a teacher at heart- I would not want to give it up unless I had to - and one of my hopes about emigrating is to be able to teach in Canada away from the petty and destructive Governmental interference and bureaucracy in the UK.
Also my husband's IT work is of a nature that it can easily be done remotely with a high speed internet connection and a telephone. He sometimes works from home here, so it wouldn't matter if he was 20 miles away or 2000!
We recently went to an Emigrate fair and found it very enlightening.
An actual representative from the Canadian High Commission in London gave us some personal advice that has given us hope that my husband may be elligible for application through the Federal Skilled Worker route, which is relatively easy and quick at the moment. (That was the 'list' of jobs that I was referring to in my first post on this site!)
OH is currently getting the paperwork together and we will be submitting this in the next couple of weeks. I am very employable in other areas as well as teaching and have been very successful at securing jobs in the past. I seem to do well on the strength of my personality at interviews or informal meetings. If OH gets the nod from the Feds, I will be allowed to work anywhere, which will suit me fine to start off with. I can wait for the teaching to come good - I can't expect to get everything at once, can I?
Fingers crossed!
Yep, lots of conflicting remarks on this site!
I don't give much for wiki articles - they are not real people's experiences and I find them to be often misleading or out of date.
I have contact with a teacher who relocated 3 years ago, became a PRINCIPAL after 2 years on the island and has now moved to the mainland. This proves that there are places for teachers on the Island in the North, which is where I want to be! As posters here have said, many Brits have relocated successfully, even teachers, so I am not disheartened by posters with negative comments. Unlike some in my line of work, I am a teacher at heart- I would not want to give it up unless I had to - and one of my hopes about emigrating is to be able to teach in Canada away from the petty and destructive Governmental interference and bureaucracy in the UK.
Also my husband's IT work is of a nature that it can easily be done remotely with a high speed internet connection and a telephone. He sometimes works from home here, so it wouldn't matter if he was 20 miles away or 2000!
We recently went to an Emigrate fair and found it very enlightening.
An actual representative from the Canadian High Commission in London gave us some personal advice that has given us hope that my husband may be elligible for application through the Federal Skilled Worker route, which is relatively easy and quick at the moment. (That was the 'list' of jobs that I was referring to in my first post on this site!)
OH is currently getting the paperwork together and we will be submitting this in the next couple of weeks. I am very employable in other areas as well as teaching and have been very successful at securing jobs in the past. I seem to do well on the strength of my personality at interviews or informal meetings. If OH gets the nod from the Feds, I will be allowed to work anywhere, which will suit me fine to start off with. I can wait for the teaching to come good - I can't expect to get everything at once, can I?
Fingers crossed!
#21
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 12,830
Re: North Vancouver Island dreams
I have contact with a teacher who relocated 3 years ago, became a PRINCIPAL after 2 years on the island and has now moved to the mainland. This proves that there are places for teachers on the Island in the North, which is where I want to be! As posters here have said, many Brits have relocated successfully, even teachers, so I am not disheartened by posters with negative comments.
one of my hopes about emigrating is to be able to teach in Canada away from the petty and destructive Governmental interference and bureaucracy in the UK.
Time will tell I guess. Right now there are no shortage of any workers on the west coast. Everyone I talk to has found it really easy to hire a high caliber of employee, quite different from a few years ago.
I would not suggest giving up. We came whatever and ended up with a couple of job offers the week before we all finally moved over.
The north island is very cut off from the rest of the island. Great for lifestyle and if that's what you want and just earn enough to put food on the table then it may work. Why did the principal move from the island to the mainland?
Just don't be disappointed if you have to adapt your plans a lot.
Last edited by Aviator; Oct 20th 2009 at 6:06 pm.
#22
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 14,227
Re: North Vancouver Island dreams
Of course it's real peoples experiences. It didn't get there by magic you know, it's written by posters here based on what has happened to them.
#23
Re: North Vancouver Island dreams
All this proves is one person succeeded, out of how many who tried?
I have only ever failed one thing in my entire life, Aviator (my driving test - passed on the fifth time) so if one person can succeed, so can I.
It's not the lack of jobs that is the problem, the union hinders many from getting in. Did you ask this PRINCIPAL what your chances were?
Of course! She has regularly updated me on the situation with staffing over the last year, not to mention giving me a wealth of information about the problems that can arise and how she solved them. I have discussed with her the issues with teaching over here and compared them to the situation in the North Island. Nowhere is perfect, but having a UK teacher telling me as it is gives me enough evidence to say it's better than what I am experiencing and can expect to experience here in future.
Why do you think it will be any different here? It's not and there is union interference to go with it.
See above.
The north island is very cut off from the rest of the island. Great for lifestyle and if that's what you want and just earn enough to put food on the table then it may work. Why did the principal move from the island to the mainland?
Nothing we have heard word of mouth or otherwise has led us to believe that we can expect to live an extravagant lifestyle and we don't want to. Here we have a very good income which has helped us to save but in Canada we could easily manage on a much lower salary. What we want is a better quality of life, which for us means more time together as a couple and less job stress, basically.
As for Principal moving - Partner job promotion. She is still a principal in the new location.
Just don't be disappointed if you have to adapt your plans a lot.
My priorities are few and my requirements are simple. How they are fulfilled is a matter of luck, opportunity and effort on my part.
#24
Re: North Vancouver Island dreams
You don't need any qualifications to write a wiki article, no-one checks you know what you are talking about and so it cannot be defitinive advice for someone such as me.
The very fact that several posters have disagreed about the teaching situation for British immigrants on this thread proves that the situation is not straightforward.
Also, it is out of date, as the person who directed me to it initially warned me.
#25
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Joined: Sep 2006
Location: Black Creek, Vancouver Island since December 2012
Posts: 1,385
Re: North Vancouver Island dreams
Some find this site a crutch until visas are obtained and others come for occasional advice and one day just aren't heard of anymore. For some the journey is longer than others, for others there are major hurdles to research.
If you search with the 'teachers' word in the search box above on the right, you may find more information from others experiences.
Maybe even you could update the outdated sections on the wiki?
Sorry.....just a bit hurt by your lack of appreciation for the efforts of the forum members.
#26
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 14,227
Re: North Vancouver Island dreams
Forums of all kinds are heavily populated by people with ther own axe to grind or no direct experience at all. It is hard to find people who have something genuinely useful to say.
You don't need any qualifications to write a wiki article, no-one checks you know what you are talking about and so it cannot be defitinive advice for someone such as me.
The very fact that several posters have disagreed about the teaching situation for British immigrants on this thread proves that the situation is not straightforward.
Also, it is out of date, as the person who directed me to it initially warned me.
You don't need any qualifications to write a wiki article, no-one checks you know what you are talking about and so it cannot be defitinive advice for someone such as me.
The very fact that several posters have disagreed about the teaching situation for British immigrants on this thread proves that the situation is not straightforward.
Also, it is out of date, as the person who directed me to it initially warned me.
Hahahahahahaha, no really. hahahahahaha.
#27
Re: North Vancouver Island dreams
You obviously know everything there is to know already. Articles on the WIKI ARE by real people - just because they don't say what you want to hear or were written some time ago doesn't make them any less valuable.
#28
Binned by Muderators
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: White Rock BC
Posts: 11,682
Re: North Vancouver Island dreams
I share the comments of many others that the wiki articles are written by real people and reflect their real knowledge. As anyone can edit them glaring errors are easily corrected. I agree that some are not updated regularly, if at all. You can check this by clicking on the "history" tab, then make your own decision on their usefulness.
However, I can't argue with this. If you keep this state of mind you will likely have an enjoyable and successful emmigration.
However, I can't argue with this. If you keep this state of mind you will likely have an enjoyable and successful emmigration.
#29
Re: North Vancouver Island dreams
Forums of all kinds are heavily populated by people with ther own axe to grind or no direct experience at all. It is hard to find people who have something genuinely useful to say.
You don't need any qualifications to write a wiki article, no-one checks you know what you are talking about and so it cannot be defitinive advice for someone such as me.
You don't need any qualifications to write a wiki article, no-one checks you know what you are talking about and so it cannot be defitinive advice for someone such as me.
I tip my hat to some of the contributors on this forum - they have gone out of their way, in their own time, to log their experiences and pass on valuable advice. Of course it's up to you whether you take that advice or not but I don't think that coming on BE as a newbie and then sniping about the work of long-standing contributors is a good strategy for getting the best from this forum.
I have found the Wikis to be fantastic sources of info and the great thing about them is that they can be corrected and/or updated - it's very easy to criticize other people's earlier work but maybe it would be much more helpful to contribute any new information yourself. After all you are a teacher ......
J
#30
Re: North Vancouver Island dreams
I'd be cautious about assuming that any sort of internet connection is available in rural Canada, nevermind high speed.