Devilish Dee

progress right whatever you say and how is taking away the history of Canada progress hmmmmmmm

MikeUK

The history will always remain

School children singing a national anthem harks back to the old days of indoctrinated nationalism of the 30's and 40's
We should use our schools to teach our children a about the country they live in so they understand it good and bad, and how it fits with the rest of the world
Have our children singing some out of date song in school does nothing educationally and only stands to link its self to out of date practises of an older world that in its self was a breeding ground for intolerance

Devilish Dee

If Canada is indeed a breeding ground for intolerance why is it that everyone seems to want to move here, and we let them??

Did you ever sing a anthem of any kind when you went to school? I did , my parents did, grandparents etc etc. But also my kids did however, they also sang another song that talks about the diversity in Canada due to the fact that they attended a very multi cultural school....why not put both in tandem why take it out totally?

DaveLovesDee

If we moved to most other countries and didn't like the way they did something, would they change it for us, or would they laugh at us?

I doubt it very much.

I think the assumption that it's immigrants who complained are because there is a history of immigrants trying to change Canada to suit their values, instead of them remembering why they chose Canada. If they wanted things the same as they were back home, why move?

On the radio this afternoon, the host Charles Adler was talking about the school, and someone put forward the possibility of people objecting to the singing of O Canada because it contains the word, God.

moondevil

If that is the case, then the school should of dealt with the matter different
To HWP - i can say it as it is as i have read more than what CH had quoted, the school decided due to these two immagrate familys that they would stop the playing of the o canada .............

If this is the case and it was just 2 familys, then why was it not taken to all the familys that attended, why is there an out cry now from the public in the area..................erm because it was a minor decision, one i think they will regret.....

This is canada FFS that is what is done, they play O Canada, everything stops and everyone has pride, i don't agree with everything that they do, but hey there policys make them who they are...then again i am not trying to bring to bring the british policys here......mini britain or what...............my god i would be off

MikeUK

Well I'm not in favour of imaginary people and their related dogmas in schools either
Well expect under broad discussions concerning other imaginary people related dogmas and their relationship to modern society
I think that sort of thing belongs either at home or in higher levels of study that can be chosen and not something part of a mandated curriculum
(unless its a non state funded religious school)

pendleside wizard

yep - we have the same here

Don't turn Canada into another UK.....FFS we left all that behind
They came here knowing what was in store and singing O Canada is part of that, if you don't like it, then leave or there is home schooling

dbd33

I asked "At school did you sing Oh Canada every day?". Response "Huh? I didn't go to school in Iraq". The idea was as alien to my child, now 27, as to me.

pennyhp

A few people in this discussion have asserted that the parents of these children have complained.
On the CBC news they said that the descision to stop singing the anthem came NOT because the parents complained. In fact the parents havn't complained. It was because it was inconvenient to seperate the children who's parents had requested that their children not be included.

hwp

I was born and raised in Canada as well. Like I've said already, I don't ever remember having to sing 'Oh Canada' beyond assemblies and what not and I'm 41 so my experience is not recent and reflects many other Canadian's experience of the anthem at school.

Has it not ever occurred to you that there are Canadians in Canada who strongly disagree and are sickened with a lot of federal history, politics and policies and feel that having their children subjugated to the national-Canucky-feel-up-song on a daily basis is just plain wrong?

And 'Oh Canada' has not been 'banned' or 'forced out of schools' - that's a rather histrionic Fox News sort of way of interpreting what has been reported in more balanced media. What has been done is the elimination of having the daily anthem. It is still used during assemblies, etc.... which, in my experience, was the norm.

If people want their kid to sing the anthem daily, then do it at home... and stop wasting the other kids' time.

hwp

Like?

Well, of course. That is one reason I don't sing the anthem (at least not sing it seriously). As an atheist, I find the lyrics creepy... and if I had a sprog, no way on earth would I want them to have to deal with that on a daily basis.

And besides... it's a bad song... it's dull. IMO, the below is a much better anthem... especially for kids to sing daily and even the lyrics are cool...

"Rah! Vive le Canada!
Three cheers Hip, Hip, Hooray!" instill more national pride in me than

"Our home and native land
True patriot love in all thy sons command" - hurl!!!


Anyways, The Centennial Song...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18-oRTLIe3I


(English verse):
CA-NA-DA
(One little two little three Canadians)
We love thee
(Now we are twenty million)
CA-NA-DA
(Four little five little six little Provinces)
Proud and free
(Now we are ten and the Territories sea to sea)
(Chorus):
North south east west
There'll be happy times,
Church Bells will ring, ring, ring
It's the hundredth anniversary of
Confederation
Ev'rybody sing together!
(French verse):
CA-NA-DA
(Un petit, deux petits, trois Canadiens)
Notre pays
(Maintenant, nous sommes vingt million)
CA-NA-DA
(Quatre petites, cinq petites, six petites provinces)
Longue vie
(Et nous sommes dix plus les Territoires; Longue vie)
(Second Chorus):
Rah! Vive le Canada!
Three cheers Hip, Hip, Hooray!
Le centenaire,
That's the order of the day
Frère Jacques Frère Jacques
Merilly we roll along
Together all the way