New or second hand motor ?
#16
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Hi we got a 3 year lease for a Hyundai tucson its 2 years old and pretty much like new and has everything my hubby wanted. He was going to buy a car outright but realised that most cars around Regina under $5000 are pretty much scrap.
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Was the salesman from the UK? I wonder how he'd know..... In Sask we've always used far less salt than in eastern Canada so you'll see more older cars on the road with less rust. If you see anything here less than 10 years old that's rusted out chances are it was once an Ontario car. In the 70's (before provincial inspection requirements) some guys used to trailer old cars from here to Ontario and bring back newer cars with some rust and profit at both ends.
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Two points here. First, poor old Mr. Gerchikov must be pissed about always driving a second hand 5-10 year old car and secondly, even given that you're getting the cheap Accent for your son, for gods sake splash out on the AC. You could suggest perhaps that he pay for that bit.
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With some cars the window HAS to drop so the door will open, its an automatic thing that happens. Are you never planning on going through a drive through anything during the winter months, preferring to get out of you nice warm car to walk over the freezing cold icy parking lot?
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We vote for second hand. Completely disagree with what HGerchikov says sorry but it's nonsense about cars not lasting as long as in the UK and being scrap after 5-10 years and not being able to find anything cheap and road worthy and yes wd have bought cars in Ontario and have had them shipped to Alberta and yes it was worth it each time.
As in the UK it's buyer beware when buying second hand, the same precautions apply, if your not comfortable checking a car yourself, then get it checked out, I believe AMA/BCAA and the like provide this, if your still uncomfortable, then buy from a main dealer with some sort of peace of mind.
As in the UK it's buyer beware when buying second hand, the same precautions apply, if your not comfortable checking a car yourself, then get it checked out, I believe AMA/BCAA and the like provide this, if your still uncomfortable, then buy from a main dealer with some sort of peace of mind.
Edited to say having just re-read my original post I can see that it's not clear what I meant about the scrap thing. I meant after the 10 years is up, which is why we keep each car approx 10 years.
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With some cars the window HAS to drop so the door will open, its an automatic thing that happens. Are you never planning on going through a drive through anything during the winter months, preferring to get out of you nice warm car to walk over the freezing cold icy parking lot?
If we were logical shoppers we'd look for cars with huge squirter bottle resevoirs and square roofs so, when the door is open, the snow doesn't fall from the roof into the seat.
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That's a problem with most recent convertibles. The VW also had an issue whereby, once the window was open, the finger detector thingy prevented closing it until the interior was warm.
If we were logical shoppers we'd look for cars with huge squirter bottle resevoirs and square roofs so, when the door is open, the snow doesn't fall from the roof into the seat.
If we were logical shoppers we'd look for cars with huge squirter bottle resevoirs and square roofs so, when the door is open, the snow doesn't fall from the roof into the seat.
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It's not actually hard to do, because I was wondering why I'd want to open the window in the winter until I thought of that; we usually park and go inside to order, because it's faster if there's a queue. But something to consider.
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BTW, we finally scrapped my girlfriend's twenty-year-old Buick because it was leaking from too many places, and it didn't have a spot of rust on it. I don't think they use salt anywhere in Saskatoon, though I believe they do on the highways outside town. No idea about Regina.
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North American cars rust out worse here and faster....It's a game we play at the lights....".look at the rust on the car in front!" (one get's bored in NB)
The Japanese and European cars hold up far better in general, maybe they apply better rust treatment protection to start with?
The Japanese and European cars hold up far better in general, maybe they apply better rust treatment protection to start with?
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That's a problem with most recent convertibles. The VW also had an issue whereby, once the window was open, the finger detector thingy prevented closing it until the interior was warm.
If we were logical shoppers we'd look for cars with huge squirter bottle resevoirs and square roofs so, when the door is open, the snow doesn't fall from the roof into the seat.
If we were logical shoppers we'd look for cars with huge squirter bottle resevoirs and square roofs so, when the door is open, the snow doesn't fall from the roof into the seat.
For the everything rusts out people, this summer we bought 2 Ford f100s, one is a '56, the other a '58 (i think) neither had been coddled and wrapped up for winter, onemis being turnedninto a dragster, the other will be a tow vehicle, no rust issues to deal with, we also have two 70's Capris, no rust issues but I doubt they were winter driven. So stop terrifying newcomers!
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We found that Challengers have the same window drop thing too, obviously tested in California.... imo you spend a lot of time in a car you may as well enjoy it.
For the everything rusts out people, this summer we bought 2 Ford f100s, one is a '56, the other a '58 (i think) neither had been coddled and wrapped up for winter, onemis being turnedninto a dragster, the other will be a tow vehicle, no rust issues to deal with, we also have two 70's Capris, no rust issues but I doubt they were winter driven. So stop terrifying newcomers!
For the everything rusts out people, this summer we bought 2 Ford f100s, one is a '56, the other a '58 (i think) neither had been coddled and wrapped up for winter, onemis being turnedninto a dragster, the other will be a tow vehicle, no rust issues to deal with, we also have two 70's Capris, no rust issues but I doubt they were winter driven. So stop terrifying newcomers!
There may be something in the age of the ontario vehicles you are seeing, not to mention ladder frame construction for the chassis of the trucks.
"Modern" cars are built with steel a fraction of the thickness of the classics, and (trucks aside) the body is the structure, so no large iron frame to hang the working bits from. This is in order to keep them as light as possible for fuel consumption reasons. In part this is possible due to improvement in alloy strengths and corrosion treatments, and also may have something to do with crash engineering, designing in crumple zones and energy absorbtion.
In any case a ding from the a rock or a shopping cart that gets through to the bare metal in Ontario now and you are going to have a hole sooner rather than later just because there is so much less metal there to corrode and a near perfect climate to encourage it.
Panel treatments have improved enormously, but on the other hand they have had too because sheet metal is much thinner now. Ive a reputation as "thrifty", but after 16 years here I figure its not worth buying an older vehicle as the total lifespan here is maybe 15 years if you are lucky. 12 is the best Ive managed.
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Im just reporting my own experience in Ontario, where salt use, like the politics, is liberal
There may be something in the age of the ontario vehicles you are seeing, not to mention ladder frame construction for the chassis of the trucks.
Panel treatments have improved enormously, but on the other hand they have had too because sheet metal is much thinner now.
There may be something in the age of the ontario vehicles you are seeing, not to mention ladder frame construction for the chassis of the trucks.
Panel treatments have improved enormously, but on the other hand they have had too because sheet metal is much thinner now.
Here in Eastern Canada it's a wonder they haven't turned our rivers to salt, the amount of stuff they throw around...
I suspect that Piff Poff and I have a similar brand of husband....Hot Rodder loving, always wants to have an old engine that 'needs a bit of loving' to hand and when not physically in contact with an engine is dreaming away with some expensive small circulation magazine with pictures of engines....hence we don't tend to have trouble with maintenance, or at least that's the theory.
Second hand vehicles are available here, at a reasonable price, but it does help if you know a bit about what you are looking at.
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We found that Challengers have the same window drop thing too, obviously tested in California.... imo you spend a lot of time in a car you may as well enjoy it.
For the everything rusts out people, this summer we bought 2 Ford f100s, one is a '56, the other a '58 (i think) neither had been coddled and wrapped up for winter, onemis being turnedninto a dragster, the other will be a tow vehicle, no rust issues to deal with, we also have two 70's Capris, no rust issues but I doubt they were winter driven. So stop terrifying newcomers!
For the everything rusts out people, this summer we bought 2 Ford f100s, one is a '56, the other a '58 (i think) neither had been coddled and wrapped up for winter, onemis being turnedninto a dragster, the other will be a tow vehicle, no rust issues to deal with, we also have two 70's Capris, no rust issues but I doubt they were winter driven. So stop terrifying newcomers!
#30
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Its been good reading the replies on this thread so I thank all who commented. For us, the jury is still out as to buy new or secondhand. Ford capri !! I think of Bodie and Doyle, no offence meant.