Originally Posted by Snowy560 (Post 12449160)

I think they probably would. The premiums have been reduced this year by 50% but I think many people would like to get rid of them. A lot of people also get them paid by work but it's the usual thing: only a certain type of person (often in a well paid job to begin with) benefits. My husband's company pays half. I suspect those in lower paid jobs don't get that as a benefit. My husband didn't in his last job (small company). I'm mainly self employed so don't get extended benefits or MSP premium paid. Obviously that's okay at this point as the MSP premium is for a family in our case so my husband gets it. I know those whose family income is under a certain amount are exempt but the threshold for exemption is quite a low family income.

I found this which may be slightly out of date:

https://www.morneaushepell.com/ca-en...ealth-premiums

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 12449151)

Isn't it simply a tax by another name?

Would the residents of BC prefer the amount to be simply added to their income tax?

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 12449151)

Isn't it simply a tax by another name?

Would the residents of BC prefer the amount to be simply added to their income tax?

Originally Posted by Edo (Post 12449205)

Its not. Cuz you have to pay the MSP whether you are making money or not.

Originally Posted by Edo (Post 12449205)

With Income Tax you don't.

Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 12449186)

It is going to end up in consumer pricing now, so the more you spend the more you pay.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 12449240)

Well, that depends on what they intend to use to replace the revenue received. If they add it to income tax, your argument will not apply, although it will if they add it to consumption taxes.

Not being a resident of BC, I have no idea how they intend to plug the gap but, if the Premier and Weaver have anything to do with it, it wouldn't surprise me if they inform BC residents that they will fund it through a tax imposed upon anything that flows through pipelines that allow the passage of resources from Alberta :lol:

Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 12449262)

It is going to be a payroll tax paid by businesses as a percentage of their payroll.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 12449116)

Who do you think should pay for healthcare then, if not the people that will benefit from it being available?

Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 12449181)

And retail prices will now climb. I know a number of businesses that have decided to close and retire several years earlier than planned. All are employers and jobs will be lost, mostly min wage jobs.

The biggest losers out of this is anyone relying on a fixed income, seniors and people with disabilities in particular. We will all be met with higher prices, but with s fixed income, they have less to go around. The govt. mandated higher wages, higher taxes, but did not step up with corresponding increases in payments to seniors and disabled.

Those who get premium assistance will see no benefit to getting rid of MSP premiums, they will see the higher prices though and have to pay those. This group will be worse off.

Lots of folks are taking a very short sighted view of these changes, thinking oh goody the greedy business people will be taxed more. Higher costs go into the cost of goods, if cost of goods go up, prices rise.

We will see more automation, the higher the wage bills go up, the more cost effective this becomes. This will result in job losses. And so it goes on.

Originally Posted by Edo (Post 12449205)

Its not. Cuz you have to pay the MSP whether you are making money or not. With Income Tax you don't.

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12449337)

Taxes, but doesn't have to be done via premiums. It should come from the general revenue tax pool or through payroll taxes. Many employers already cover the cost of partial cost (not all though) so some employers may actually come out a head with this new method.

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12449340)

Not quite, if one has no income there is/was premium assistance in which premiums were fully are partially waived.


This thread is going the usual way, high income folks think they get taxed too much and the poorer folks should be more poor and pay more taxes and fees.

Oh well. I am done as I have to go work in the snow for 13 hours of which 95% of my income earned doing so goes to a multi-millionaire in the form of rent, life is so grand.

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12449339)

It's false to say PWD in BC has not gone up, it has. It was stagnant however under the BC Liberals.