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xuewei Sep 23rd 2002 10:00 am

Mr. Miller. attn
 
If someone got a MA degree (includuing one year or two years program) in Canada, is it still necessary for him to take ITLES to proof the English ability in order to get full marks on language ability according to the old rule and new rule?

Andrew Miller Sep 23rd 2002 10:59 am

Re: Mr. Miller. attn
 
IELTS test result is the only evidence which forces processing officer to grant
you objectively number of points for language proficiency accordingly to simple
table - with IELTS there is no room for any subjective evaluation.

If you won't submit IELTS results but will submit so called "substitute
evidence" then such will be subject to rather subjective evaluation by
processing officer and the outcome in most cases will not be as desired by
applicants.

So, if you want to get points you think you should be granted than submit IELTS
test result...

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________



"xuewei" wrote in message
news:423257.1032818417@britishexpats-
.com
...
    > If someone got a MA degree (includuing one year or two years program) in
    > Canada, is it still necessary for him to take ITLES to proof the
    > English ability in order to get full marks on language ability according
    > to the old rule and new rule?
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

xuewei Sep 23rd 2002 11:26 am

Re: Mr. Miller. attn
 
Thanks a lot for you help.

Knowcdnimmactinout Sep 24th 2002 3:18 am

Re: Mr. Miller. attn
 
and what if I lived in Canada for 5 years, submitted old toefl result,
graduated from a community college in Toronto and worked in Canada for more
than 4 years?
"Andrew Miller" wrote in message
news:D1Nj9.32174$EA.1131917-
@news0.telusplanet.net
...
    > IELTS test result is the only evidence which forces processing officer to
grant
    > you objectively number of points for language proficiency accordingly to
simple
    > table - with IELTS there is no room for any subjective evaluation.
    > If you won't submit IELTS results but will submit so called "substitute
    > evidence" then such will be subject to rather subjective evaluation by
    > processing officer and the outcome in most cases will not be as desired by
    > applicants.
    > So, if you want to get points you think you should be granted than submit
IELTS
    > test result...
    > --
    > ../..
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    > "xuewei" wrote in message
    > news:423257.1032818417@britishexpa-
    > ts.com
    ...
    > >
    > > If someone got a MA degree (includuing one year or two years program) in
    > > Canada, is it still necessary for him to take ITLES to proof the
    > > English ability in order to get full marks on language ability according
    > > to the old rule and new rule?
    > >
    > > --
    > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    > >

Andrew Miller Sep 24th 2002 3:39 am

Re: Mr. Miller. attn
 
I know people born in Canada who finished all their education and worked for
20+ years here in Vancouver and still barely speak English - so, living here
for 5 years and finishing college proves nothing. Only IELTS or CELPIP test
result will guarantee objectively granted number of points. But you may try
your luck...

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________



"KnowCdnImmActInOut" wrote in message
news:Qm%j9.3770$l44.835125@n-
ews20.bellglobal.com
...
    > and what if I lived in Canada for 5 years, submitted old toefl result,
    > graduated from a community college in Toronto and worked in Canada for more
    > than 4 years?
    > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
    > news:D1Nj9.32174$EA.11319-
    > [email protected]
    ...
    > > IELTS test result is the only evidence which forces processing officer to
    > grant
    > > you objectively number of points for language proficiency accordingly to
    > simple
    > > table - with IELTS there is no room for any subjective evaluation.
    > >
    > > If you won't submit IELTS results but will submit so called "substitute
    > > evidence" then such will be subject to rather subjective evaluation by
    > > processing officer and the outcome in most cases will not be as desired by
    > > applicants.
    > >
    > > So, if you want to get points you think you should be granted than submit
    > IELTS
    > > test result...
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller
    > > Immigration Consultant
    > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > email: [email protected]
    > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > ________________________________
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "xuewei" wrote in message
    > > news:423257.1032818417@britishex-
    > > pats.com
    ...
    > > >
    > > > If someone got a MA degree (includuing one year or two years program) in
    > > > Canada, is it still necessary for him to take ITLES to proof the
    > > > English ability in order to get full marks on language ability according
    > > > to the old rule and new rule?
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    > > >
    > >
    > >

Knowcdnimmactinout Sep 24th 2002 6:05 am

Re: Mr. Miller. attn
 
Well Mr. Miller,this is why I submit other documentation that shows I am not
Chinese....
"Andrew Miller" wrote in message
news:iH%j9.45151$Zk4.14475-
[email protected]
...
    > I know people born in Canada who finished all their education and worked
for
    > 20+ years here in Vancouver and still barely speak English - so, living
here
    > for 5 years and finishing college proves nothing. Only IELTS or CELPIP
test
    > result will guarantee objectively granted number of points. But you may
try
    > your luck...
    > --
    > ../..
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    > "KnowCdnImmActInOut" wrote in message
    > news:Qm%j9.3770$l44.835125-
    > @news20.bellglobal.com
    ...
    > > and what if I lived in Canada for 5 years, submitted old toefl result,
    > > graduated from a community college in Toronto and worked in Canada for
more
    > > than 4 years?
    > > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
    > > news:D1Nj9.32174$EA.113-
    > > [email protected]
    ...
    > > > IELTS test result is the only evidence which forces processing officer
to
    > > grant
    > > > you objectively number of points for language proficiency accordingly
to
    > > simple
    > > > table - with IELTS there is no room for any subjective evaluation.
    > > >
    > > > If you won't submit IELTS results but will submit so called
"substitute
    > > > evidence" then such will be subject to rather subjective evaluation by
    > > > processing officer and the outcome in most cases will not be as
desired by
    > > > applicants.
    > > >
    > > > So, if you want to get points you think you should be granted than
submit
    > > IELTS
    > > > test result...
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > ../..
    > > >
    > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > > ________________________________
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "xuewei" wrote in message
    > > > news:423257.1032818417@british-
    > > > expats.com
    ...
    > > > >
    > > > > If someone got a MA degree (includuing one year or two years
program) in
    > > > > Canada, is it still necessary for him to take ITLES to proof the
    > > > > English ability in order to get full marks on language ability
according
    > > > > to the old rule and new rule?
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >


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