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Old Apr 27th 2016, 1:03 am
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Thank you for everyone. Progress on board seems like the company is going down on the LMIA pathway and they want us to move over asap the paperwork is done.

How common is to have relocation package provided? We are a bit different from the usual forum user as we are immigrants in the UK too (even if it is just from Europe), so, for example, we don't have a house to sell.

If I got a TPW when and how can we apply for PR within Canada? Anyone who has got real life experience? Because I have heard and read different kinds of stuff.

IS TPW provided for 3 years?
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Personally, I'd say your wife would be better applying for a spousal open work permit (a work permit tied to yours), even if she doesn't intend to work in the first instance. An opportunity (of even a few hours a week) may arise that she'd like to do but in any case, worker status is a better one to have (than visitor).

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Personally, I'd say your wife would be better applying for a spousal open work permit (a work permit tied to yours), even if she doesn't intend to work in the first instance. An opportunity (of even a few hours a week) may arise that she'd like to do but in any case, worker status is a better one to have (than visitor).

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Agreed. Easier/faster to apply for/get an OWP on arrival & not use it than to come in as a visitor then have to apply for & wait for an OWP.

Relocation package: negotiate, negotiate, negotiate the terms. Very common to have one.

If you get a TWP for a NOC A, B, 0 level job, you can apply for PR the day you land in Canada.
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My wife not going to work for a while, we have got a little one, she is staying home, also has to level up the language skill.

thanks for the hint on relocation package.
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Originally Posted by Ahorvath
My wife not going to work for a while, we have got a little one, she is staying home, also has to level up the language skill.

thanks for the hint on relocation package.
Another hint: there are no language requirements for a SOWP on the back of a TWP....
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How common is to have relocation package provided? We are a bit different from the usual forum user as we are immigrants in the UK too (even if it is just from Europe), so, for example, we don't have a house to sell.
I would look for the following relocation package

- flights for you and family (with possible flights home during the year)
- temporary healthcare coverage until you qualify for MSP (you will need to wait least 2 months and 1 day and possibly up to 3 months to qualify for provincial healthcare).
- temporary accommodation in a furnished apartment (not a hotel room), at least one month but maybe longer depending (in Vancouver the big moving days are 1st and 15th of the month, rentals very rarely begin at any other stage).
- tax advisors for your first year of tax returns.
- assistance with finding rental property.
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Thank you for the advice on relocation package, I have got an offer but it is only 100K/year, benefits including medical and MSP coverage (but I'm not sure if it is equals private medical insurance or not). MSP is the Canadian NHS?

I think 100K is a bit low, but seems like it is the best they could give. Again, would it enough for a family of six, as a sole income?

thank you.
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Originally Posted by bc2015
I would look for the following relocation package

- flights for you and family (with possible flights home during the year)
- temporary healthcare coverage until you qualify for MSP (you will need to wait least 2 months and 1 day and possibly up to 3 months to qualify for provincial healthcare).
- temporary accommodation in a furnished apartment (not a hotel room), at least one month but maybe longer depending (in Vancouver the big moving days are 1st and 15th of the month, rentals very rarely begin at any other stage).
- tax advisors for your first year of tax returns.
- assistance with finding rental property.
+1 ..... and perhaps the cost of a shipping your belongings over and a rental vehicle for a month.

If you are living in rental property in the UK and don't have furniture to ship over, perhaps ask for an amount to cover basic furnishings - you will be very unlikely to find furnished long-term accommodation in Vancouver - most furnished ones are short-term, high cost and temporary. It's amazing how much furniture costs add up when you have to start from scratch!

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Old Apr 28th 2016, 1:57 am
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Thank you for the advice on relocation package, I have got an offer but it is only 100K/year, benefits including medical and MSP coverage (but I'm not sure if it is equals private medical insurance or not). MSP is the Canadian NHS?

I think 100K is a bit low, but seems like it is the best they could give. Again, would it enough for a family of six, as a sole income?

thank you.
MSP is the public health care but it doesn't cover dental, optical or drugs. So most employers will add some kind of coverage for these. (though most would argue that the NHS is far better than the Canadian system anyway).

I do agree that 100k is a bit low but you may find it comfortable depending on your lifestyle. I noticed that you said you are not going to drive which will save a bit. You should be able find a tax calculator online which should give you a rough idea of take home pay. Then have a look at Craigslist for rentals (eveyone uses Craigslist here). Rent will be your biggest expense.

But for a security engineer with many years experience, I think 100k is way too low. Are they open to negotiation?
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I don't know if you are CISSP Certified, if you are this payscale may be of interest.

Certified Information Systems Security Professional (CISSP) Certification Salary, Average Salaries | PayScale Canada

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Originally Posted by bc2015
But for a security engineer with many years experience, I think 100k is way too low. Are they open to negotiation?
I think he should bite their hand off.
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I think he should bite their hand off.
So what salary do you think would be commensurate with his experience, for Vancouver?
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Originally Posted by Ahorvath
I don't drive so public transportation is important.
This sticks out like the proverbial elephant in the room. Is there a reason you don't drive? Your employment options and quality of family life will be severely limited, and the distances between places in North America are tenfold what you can expect in London. You might just about make it in a dense metropolis like Toronto, but BC ? I'm not so sure.
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In some cases, an employer is required *by law* to provide some of the "benefits" (I'm looking at health coverage specifically) mentioned.

If I were in the OP's position, I'd expect - at the very least - flights to Canada + flights home at the end of the contract (&/or if contract terminated early); temporary accommodation on arrival ; help with finding longer term accommodation, medical insurance top-up; & $$ for shipping household items (if applicable), or the same in $$ to buy the necessary.
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Originally Posted by bc2015
MSP is the public health care but it doesn't cover dental, optical or drugs. So most employers will add some kind of coverage for these. (though most would argue that the NHS is far better than the Canadian system anyway).

I do agree that 100k is a bit low but you may find it comfortable depending on your lifestyle. I noticed that you said you are not going to drive which will save a bit. You should be able find a tax calculator online which should give you a rough idea of take home pay. Then have a look at Craigslist for rentals (eveyone uses Craigslist here). Rent will be your biggest expense.

But for a security engineer with many years experience, I think 100k is way too low. Are they open to negotiation?
Do you mean financially or clinically?
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