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Danraven May 12th 2015 9:03 am

Re: Moving to Canada!!
 
As I said we're not set on a particular city as yet, I guess I'll have to see where work is commonly available and take it from there. We like the idea of extreme seasons.... Snow in the winter, warm in the summer.... But there are many things to consider!!

haggis88 May 12th 2015 1:23 pm

Re: Moving to Canada!!
 
Calgary is in the shitter at the moment too mate...look for a job first, then see if the location suits you!

You might like the idea of extreme seasons now...but when it's still white-out in April, it gets old REALLY quick...and I love winter!

Lychee May 12th 2015 2:46 pm

Re: Moving to Canada!!
 
It's not the extremity of winter, it's the length. 6 months of the year is winter. That hot summer is fleeting and the spring/autumn is mere weeks. Summer also means thundershowers and mozzies. The year is dominated by white, grey, and cold. Spring only emerges when you are internally expecting summer. You will not see greenery until May. You lose greenery in September.

Howefamily May 13th 2015 3:43 am

Re: Moving to Canada!!
 

Originally Posted by Lychee (Post 11644384)
It's not the extremity of winter, it's the length. 6 months of the year is winter. That hot summer is fleeting and the spring/autumn is mere weeks. Summer also means thundershowers and mozzies. The year is dominated by white, grey, and cold. Spring only emerges when you are internally expecting summer. You will not see greenery until May. You lose greenery in September.

where do you lose greenery in September?

rivingtonpike May 13th 2015 4:08 am

Re: Moving to Canada!!
 

Originally Posted by Howefamily (Post 11644843)
where do you lose greenery in September?

You see it here on the island

Howefamily May 13th 2015 5:39 am

Re: Moving to Canada!!
 

Originally Posted by rivingtonpike (Post 11644874)
You see it here on the island

Oh really, I wonder if thats because your Spring comes so nice and early (unlike ours)
We seem (so far in my 4 years here) to have decent weather in September and the trees slowly starts to turn red and yellow but we definately dont lose all the green grass etc. Its a beautiful, sunny and warm time of year.

Danraven May 13th 2015 7:20 am

Re: Moving to Canada!!
 
I think we are going to head over at the end of August for a week to try and get a feel of things, it seems like a daft question but would I need to complete my red seal exam before applying for jobs???..... A lot of varying opinions on the weather!! Another thing that appeals is the different lifestyle, surely has to be better than the UK!!! And a better environment/culture to bring kids up in

Tirytory May 13th 2015 8:09 am

Re: Moving to Canada!!
 

Originally Posted by Danraven (Post 11645070)
I think we are going to head over at the end of August for a week to try and get a feel of things, it seems like a daft question but would I need to complete my red seal exam before applying for jobs???..... A lot of varying opinions on the weather!! Another thing that appeals is the different lifestyle, surely has to be better than the UK!!! And a better environment/culture to bring kids up in

Different not better...that applies to any aspect of a move to Canada especially if moving from one first world country to another.

Lychee May 13th 2015 3:02 pm

Re: Moving to Canada!!
 

Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11645129)
Different not better...that applies to any aspect of a move to Canada especially if moving from one first world country to another.

:goodpost:

It's true. It will be a different lifestyle, not necessarily a better lifestyle, simply a different lifestyle. A different lifestyle in every sense, including things you take for granted, such as shopping or eating or going to bank or socialising. The collective knowledge (where to go for what, how you behave in which situation) will be different and you and your family will have to observe and learn this and adapt. The people are, frankly, different. It's not just the accent, it's the types of conversations, it's how they interact, it's their values, their interests, the music and movies and pop culture they grew up immersed in - all of that is different. They cannot relate to your English upbringing or your English cultural references or your desire for orange squash ("What is orange squash? A pumpkin?") or the need to consume Bisto gravy. The humour is different (sarcasm is not universal in Canada and is a surefire way to offend or confuse or both). The sports culture is different, the pub culture does not exist, but there are bars if you like cold lager, nachos, chicken wings and ice hockey, but that too is different. People eat differently, eat different types of foods, value different types of foods, and so supermarkets only stock those types of foods, and the restaurants only serve those types of foods. Ethnic cuisine is different because immigration settlement patterns are different and vary across the country. Say goodbye to your (English) curries. Say goodbye to lamb and English pub nosh. The cities and towns are built differently. There is no equivalent of an English village or the English definition of rural. Most cities and towns were built with the assumption that you will have a car to get around. Much of Canada's infrastructure is not built for pedestrians. People move around the places differently as a result. The infrastructure is different. Distances are vast, populations are small, so the conveniences of the UK don't typically exist in terms of quick, efficient, cheap, mail-order shopping or public transportation or flights. Trains are for freight, not for passengers. You will typically not see very much of Canada as a result, but will certainly see your immediate vicinity. Choosing that vicinity in Canada to live is therefore crucial. Schools are different, teachers and parents have different values from their peers in the UK, teach in a different style from teachers in the UK, teach different subjects at different ages than in the UK, stress less about academics at an early age, etc. It's not better, it's simply different. This is a stream of consciousness and surely a gross generalisation, but you simply must take off those rose coloured specs dreaming that Canada is somehow better. It is not better, but it is certainly different!

If you're eager to give up your English lifestyle and values and eating habits, you may be very well happy in Canada. If you're hoping to live in Canada similarly to how you do in England, you may be very miserable.

itsasmallworld May 14th 2015 12:22 am

Re: Moving to Canada!!
 

Originally Posted by Lychee (Post 11645438)
:goodpost:

It's true. It will be a different lifestyle, not necessarily a better lifestyle, simply a different lifestyle. A different lifestyle in every sense, including things you take for granted, such as shopping or eating or going to bank or socialising. The collective knowledge (where to go for what, how you behave in which situation) will be different and you and your family will have to observe and learn this and adapt. The people are, frankly, different. It's not just the accent, it's the types of conversations, it's how they interact, it's their values, their interests, the music and movies and pop culture they grew up immersed in - all of that is different. They cannot relate to your English upbringing or your English cultural references or your desire for orange squash ("What is orange squash? A pumpkin?") or the need to consume Bisto gravy. The humour is different (sarcasm is not universal in Canada and is a surefire way to offend or confuse or both). The sports culture is different, the pub culture does not exist, but there are bars if you like cold lager, nachos, chicken wings and ice hockey, but that too is different. People eat differently, eat different types of foods, value different types of foods, and so supermarkets only stock those types of foods, and the restaurants only serve those types of foods. Ethnic cuisine is different because immigration settlement patterns are different and vary across the country. Say goodbye to your (English) curries. Say goodbye to lamb and English pub nosh. The cities and towns are built differently. There is no equivalent of an English village or the English definition of rural. Most cities and towns were built with the assumption that you will have a car to get around. Much of Canada's infrastructure is not built for pedestrians. People move around the places differently as a result. The infrastructure is different. Distances are vast, populations are small, so the conveniences of the UK don't typically exist in terms of quick, efficient, cheap, mail-order shopping or public transportation or flights. Trains are for freight, not for passengers. You will typically not see very much of Canada as a result, but will certainly see your immediate vicinity. Choosing that vicinity in Canada to live is therefore crucial. Schools are different, teachers and parents have different values from their peers in the UK, teach in a different style from teachers in the UK, teach different subjects at different ages than in the UK, stress less about academics at an early age, etc. It's not better, it's simply different. This is a stream of consciousness and surely a gross generalisation, but you simply must take off those rose coloured specs dreaming that Canada is somehow better. It is not better, but it is certainly different!

If you're eager to give up your English lifestyle and values and eating habits, you may be very well happy in Canada. If you're hoping to live in Canada similarly to how you do in England, you may be very miserable.

Well put. I really like this post.

Juggernaut1064 May 14th 2015 3:03 am

Re: Moving to Canada!!
 

Originally Posted by Danraven (Post 11645070)
I think we are going to head over at the end of August for a week to try and get a feel of things, it seems like a daft question but would I need to complete my red seal exam before applying for jobs???..... A lot of varying opinions on the weather!! Another thing that appeals is the different lifestyle, surely has to be better than the UK!!! And a better environment/culture to bring kids up in

If at all possible you should try to also come back here in February, Generally that's the coldest month. We can all talk about the cold winters here but you really should come and experience it before you commit to moving here ?
I Visited in Aug 2004 and heard enough about the winters here to come back in Feb 2005 before i made the decision to move here.
I know of one couple where the wife followed her husband out here once he was settled etc, He got a place in the boonies outside of Winnipeg, she arrived in the new year and was so shocked by the frozen tundra look and the cold she literally cried all the way to the house. Not sure if they are still here but i doubt it, You don't want to be in that situation for the sake of a second flight here in February time.

Howefamily May 14th 2015 5:07 am

Re: Moving to Canada!!
 

Originally Posted by Lychee (Post 11645438)
:goodpost:

It's true. It will be a different lifestyle, not necessarily a better lifestyle, simply a different lifestyle. A different lifestyle in every sense, including things you take for granted, such as shopping or eating or going to bank or socialising. The collective knowledge (where to go for what, how you behave in which situation) will be different and you and your family will have to observe and learn this and adapt. The people are, frankly, different. It's not just the accent, it's the types of conversations, it's how they interact, it's their values, their interests, the music and movies and pop culture they grew up immersed in - all of that is different. They cannot relate to your English upbringing or your English cultural references or your desire for orange squash ("What is orange squash? A pumpkin?") or the need to consume Bisto gravy. The humour is different (sarcasm is not universal in Canada and is a surefire way to offend or confuse or both). The sports culture is different, the pub culture does not exist, but there are bars if you like cold lager, nachos, chicken wings and ice hockey, but that too is different. People eat differently, eat different types of foods, value different types of foods, and so supermarkets only stock those types of foods, and the restaurants only serve those types of foods. Ethnic cuisine is different because immigration settlement patterns are different and vary across the country. Say goodbye to your (English) curries. Say goodbye to lamb and English pub nosh. The cities and towns are built differently. There is no equivalent of an English village or the English definition of rural. Most cities and towns were built with the assumption that you will have a car to get around. Much of Canada's infrastructure is not built for pedestrians. People move around the places differently as a result. The infrastructure is different. Distances are vast, populations are small, so the conveniences of the UK don't typically exist in terms of quick, efficient, cheap, mail-order shopping or public transportation or flights. Trains are for freight, not for passengers. You will typically not see very much of Canada as a result, but will certainly see your immediate vicinity. Choosing that vicinity in Canada to live is therefore crucial. Schools are different, teachers and parents have different values from their peers in the UK, teach in a different style from teachers in the UK, teach different subjects at different ages than in the UK, stress less about academics at an early age, etc. It's not better, it's simply different. This is a stream of consciousness and surely a gross generalisation, but you simply must take off those rose coloured specs dreaming that Canada is somehow better. It is not better, but it is certainly different!

If you're eager to give up your English lifestyle and values and eating habits, you may be very well happy in Canada. If you're hoping to live in Canada similarly to how you do in England, you may be very miserable.

:amen:
So very true!

Piff Poff May 14th 2015 3:17 pm

Re: Moving to Canada!!
 

Originally Posted by Howefamily (Post 11644843)
where do you lose greenery in September?

The trees start turning during the last week of August, 1st week Sept, it's very sad.

Howefamily May 15th 2015 12:51 am

Re: Moving to Canada!!
 

Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 11646531)
The trees start turning during the last week of August, 1st week Sept, it's very sad.

Is it still nice and warm though?

rivingtonpike May 15th 2015 3:22 am

Re: Moving to Canada!!
 

Originally Posted by Howefamily (Post 11646788)
Is it still nice and warm though?

For us, cold weather (such as it is) starts anytime after Thanksgiving. Until the its generally lovely from April onwards


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