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Re: Motivations for emigration
Originally Posted by startwin
(Post 4748565)
There are people on this forum who jump in and scream "racist" at the first hint of any criticism of the immigration policies in either Canada or the UK. You cannot have a debate or conversation about it, it becomes a slanging match with insistent cries of "prove it" and when you do, they doubt your sources anyway. Even your own personal experiences and/or observations, because you must by lying, of course. A lot of topics seem to get hijacked this way. Shame.
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Re: Motivations for emigration
Originally Posted by jempee
(Post 4749082)
you know how frustrating it is when they say link it etc.
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Re: Motivations for emigration
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 4748594)
It should be easy enough to demonstrate that, for example, these people got money for cars and subsidized housing. A link to an article in a reputable publication stating that to be the case would be a start. We don't get that though, we only get "my mate told me".
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Re: Motivations for emigration
Originally Posted by jempee
(Post 4749073)
actually dont need the link as i know of this happening in 'the real world'. also friends worked for the council so have some inside 'hidden' info as well. Oh what it must be like to only believe in the written word.
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Re: Motivations for emigration
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 4749090)
How else do you demonstrate something to be true, or even reasonably believable, in this medium?
how about when my parents were trying to get help to claim for benefits after years working due to them both becoming ill in quick succession of each other. My mum calls a local benefit office asking for help filling in the forms as she did not understand how she could answer some questions. They gave her a number, she called it. The rather rude lady there told her she should not have been given the number as it was only there to help those of ethnic minorites that were newly claiming/ had trouble speaking/writing english etc. Parents ended up not claiming all they were entitled to as no one was willing to help them at the offices. Oh and before you ask they were questions even we could not work out how to answer. Did tell them to send the forms in and when they called and asked why some questions not filled in they could possibly explain why. But they gave up instead. sorry no link so must be unbelievable |
Re: Motivations for emigration
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 4749096)
Did you actually read the link? No matter, you have every right to believe whatever you like. For example, I have a friend who knows someone on the inside who says that posters with exactly six letters in their username all have smelly feet. I believe this unreservedly. Why should he lie?
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Re: Motivations for emigration
Originally Posted by jempee
(Post 4749101)
give me a break. do you honestly believe that statistics etc are true? that politicians speak the truth etc.
how about when my parents were trying to get help to claim for benefits after years working due to them both becoming ill in quick succession of each other. My mum calls a local benefit office asking for help filling in the forms as she did not understand how she could answer some questions. They gave her a number, she called it. The rather rude lady there told her she should not have been given the number as it was only there to help those of ethnic minorites that were newly claiming/ had trouble speaking/writing english etc. Parents ended up not claiming all they were entitled to as no one was willing to help them at the offices. Oh and before you ask they were questions even we could not work out how to answer. Did tell them to send the forms in and when they called and asked why some questions not filled in they could possibly explain why. But they gave up instead. sorry no link so must be unbelievable |
Re: Motivations for emigration
Originally Posted by jempee
(Post 4749101)
give me a break. do you honestly believe that statistics etc are true? that politicians speak the truth etc.
how about when my parents were trying to get help to claim for benefits after years working due to them both becoming ill in quick succession of each other. My mum calls a local benefit office asking for help filling in the forms as she did not understand how she could answer some questions. They gave her a number, she called it. The rather rude lady there told her she should not have been given the number as it was only there to help those of ethnic minorites that were newly claiming/ had trouble speaking/writing english etc. Parents ended up not claiming all they were entitled to as no one was willing to help them at the offices. Oh and before you ask they were questions even we could not work out how to answer. Did tell them to send the forms in and when they called and asked why some questions not filled in they could possibly explain why. But they gave up instead. sorry no link so must be unbelievable |
Re: Motivations for emigration
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 4749109)
Baffling rather than unbelievable.
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Re: Motivations for emigration
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 4749111)
Perfectly believable. But what's your point?
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Re: Motivations for emigration
Originally Posted by jempee
(Post 4749115)
in what way? that im lying
I didn't think you were lying but it's a confused story about a confused person being confounded by bureaucracy while trying to get a hand out. I don't see what it has to do with anything. |
Re: Motivations for emigration
Originally Posted by jempee
(Post 4749120)
whats my point? do you think its widely known that there are lines just to help them and not others? you can say link it till the cows come home, i just feel sorry for you if you think its not real life.
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Re: Motivations for emigration
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 4749135)
I didn't think you were lying but it's a confused story about a confused person being confounded by bureaucracy while trying to get a hand out. I don't see what it has to do with anything.
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Re: Motivations for emigration
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 4749141)
Whether it's widely known or not I couldn't say. Certainly I didn't know, but now that you've told me I think its a very good idea to have a helpline especially for folk whose English is a bit wanting. You'll find similar services in most Canadian cities too.
Dam good idea if you cant speak english really. But alas my parents speak perfect english so no help for them was avaliable. |
Re: Motivations for emigration
Originally Posted by jempee
(Post 4749152)
do they have ones that help those that can speak english but dont understand?
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