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Wags18uk Mar 22nd 2010 2:19 pm

Mortgages
 
Hi Everyone,

Don't know if this is the correct forum to post this, but has anyone recently arrived in Canada had any problems getting a mortgage? and if they can shed any light on their experiences (good or bad) I would appreciate it.

Many thanks

MR79 Mar 22nd 2010 2:23 pm

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I was told unless i have a job, i would need to put down a deposit of 35% of the value of the property........

MR79

Merry Mar 22nd 2010 3:26 pm

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We were pleasantly surprised how easy we found it to get a mortgage when we arrived in January. From reading the forum we had expected to be asked for 35% down so I nearly fell off the chair when the first bank we approached asked for only 15%! Another was able to do it for 10% but at 15% we got a really good interest rate which we wouldn't have got for 10%. Where are you moving to?

MR79 Mar 22nd 2010 3:31 pm

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Originally Posted by Merry (Post 8438950)
We were pleasantly surprised how easy we found it to get a mortgage when we arrived in January. From reading the forum we had expected to be asked for 35% down so I nearly fell off the chair when the first bank we approached asked for only 15%! Another was able to do it for 10% but at 15% we got a really good interest rate which we wouldn't have got for 10%. Where are you moving to?

Was you offered this without a job?

If so please can you PM me the details....I am moving to Vancouver...

Thanks,

MR79

Caitilin Mar 22nd 2010 6:28 pm

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I have a job, past probation, etc. Had a credit card for 10 months and cleared the balance monthly, no outstanding. Been in Canada slightly shy of 1 year (this weekend in fact...)

Was told last month I needed 10% as i didn't have enough history, and no, foreign histories didn't count despite having credit reports.

Almost Canadian Mar 22nd 2010 6:58 pm

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Originally Posted by Caitilin (Post 8439357)
I have a job, past probation, etc. Had a credit card for 10 months and cleared the balance monthly, no outstanding. Been in Canada slightly shy of 1 year (this weekend in fact...)

Was told last month I needed 10% as i didn't have enough history, and no, foreign histories didn't count despite having credit reports.

You need to try another bank as they are speaking with forked tongues:p

Alan2005 Mar 22nd 2010 8:02 pm

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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 8439429)
You need to try another bank as they are speaking with forked tongues:p

Didn't they change the rules recently about down payments and being able to afford the repayments for five years at some fixed rate? Not sure of the details.

lmartin999 Mar 22nd 2010 8:13 pm

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8439574)
Didn't they change the rules recently about down payments and being able to afford the repayments for five years at some fixed rate? Not sure of the details.

Yes. It's to avoid people taking on overly large mortgages at the kinds of variable rates presently around (can get 1.75% or perhaps lower). I believe you have to qualify at the 5 year fixed rate - and it may be the published rather than any discounted rate.

In my experience the level of expertise around mortgages is not always that high, certainly in banks. I have been given quite a lot of incorrect information, partly as there is a tendency not to listen and partly from ignorance (and an absolute refusal to admit doubt or uncertainty). 'Financial specialists' seem to have to ask others an awful lot. A print out of their own web page usually helps the situation.

Alan2005 Mar 22nd 2010 8:17 pm

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Originally Posted by lmartin999 (Post 8439601)
Yes. It's to avoid people taking on overly large mortgages at the kinds of variable rates presently around (can get 1.75% or perhaps lower). I believe you have to qualify at the 5 year fixed rate - and it may be the published rather than any discounted rate.

So how can anyone qualify for a mortgage without an income without committing some kind of fraud?

Almost Canadian Mar 22nd 2010 8:25 pm

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8439574)
Didn't they change the rules recently about down payments and being able to afford the repayments for five years at some fixed rate? Not sure of the details.


I am sure that the qualifying criteria have become stricter, it was the issue of foreign credit checks that I objected to. Mine were accepted with no issue at all.

Alan2005 Mar 22nd 2010 8:28 pm

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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 8439630)
I am sure that the qualifying criteria have become stricter, it was the issue of foreign credit checks that I objected to. Mine were accepted with no issue at all.

I don't doubt it - though I expect it is hard work getting them accepted in some places depending on who you talk to and how ignorant or not they are of their own companies policies.

Alanandson Mar 23rd 2010 1:51 pm

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My Wife and I obtained a mortgage with BMO. They accepted a UK credit history report from Equifax. We both have jobs, but had only been in Canada for 4 months.

MB-Realtor Mar 23rd 2010 2:08 pm

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Different people have different experiences, and thats a lot to do with the way banks operate, its a combination of what they think of you as a risk and what you own.

Depending on who you speak to (their seniority) and the way you interact with them, plus what assets you have with you, will have an effect on what the Bank offers you.

JonboyE Mar 23rd 2010 6:41 pm

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8439605)
So how can anyone qualify for a mortgage without an income without committing some kind of fraud?

You tell the bank you don't have an income. Then it isn't fraud.

Alan2005 Mar 23rd 2010 7:31 pm

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Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 8442341)
You tell the bank you don't have an income. Then it isn't fraud.

But that is contradicts the requirement to be able to afford the repayments for five years. How can you demonstrate your ability to do this without an income?


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