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chinook Oct 15th 2007 4:32 am

Military Reserves
 
Has anybody out there joined the Canadian Forces reserve (their version of the TA)? If so what are you in and what do you think of it?

Souvenir Oct 15th 2007 4:35 am

Re: Military Reserves
 

Originally Posted by chinook (Post 5427699)
Has anybody out there joined the Canadian Forces reserve (their version of the TA)? If so what are you in and what do you think of it?

What do you want to know? The reserves are full of people not born in Canada (although it's harder to get in these days if you're not).

chinook Oct 15th 2007 7:35 am

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I am moving across after 22 years in the UK forces. Just wondered if anybody else had done the same, for the usual reasons, ie missing the job, boys, fun etc. If so what do they think or what advice do they have.

Rete Oct 15th 2007 7:38 am

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Originally Posted by chinook (Post 5428436)
I am moving across after 22 years in the UK forces. Just wondered if anybody else had done the same, for the usual reasons, ie missing the job, boys, fun etc. If so what do they think or what advice do they have.


Hubby is still a member of the reserves in Canada although not active. He is active in the New York Guard for the same reasons you cited. He retired after 36 years in the RCAF and missed the military life and could not conform to civilian life.

smiges33 Oct 15th 2007 8:58 am

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has any one left the regular uk forces and joined the regular canadian forces?

MB-Realtor Oct 15th 2007 9:12 am

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My son (17 years old) was told you have to be a Canadian Citizen to join both the Reserves and the Regulars.

smiges33 Oct 15th 2007 9:16 am

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just wondered as if you have served in uk forces you can transfer directly into both austrailain forces and nz forces. yes i seen a reply on here somewehre that you couldnt join rcmp unless you was a citizen. just wondered if canada was taking brits like down under.

MB-Realtor Oct 15th 2007 9:37 am

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Don't know about a transfer, my son had a phone number of the department that dealt with foreign nationals, he phoned them as he had a question about dual-citizenship (its no problem by the way). I'll ask him when he gets home if he still has the number, and post it here.

smiges33 Oct 15th 2007 9:39 am

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thanks. always useful to have

Steve_P Oct 15th 2007 10:31 am

Re: Military Reserves
 
Canadian Military Reserves.

Enrollment Eligibility.

BATUSVirgin Oct 15th 2007 10:55 am

Re: Military Reserves
 

Originally Posted by smiges33 (Post 5429014)
just wondered as if you have served in uk forces you can transfer directly into both austrailain forces and nz forces. yes i seen a reply on here somewehre that you couldnt join rcmp unless you was a citizen. just wondered if canada was taking brits like down under.

I've heard that you can, but there are a few differences between joining the Canadian Army as opposed to the Australian or NZ. From what I understand you can apply to the Aussies/Kiwis whilst still serving with the British Army and you can get a fair way down the application process before you even have to tell the British Army.

With the Canadian Army I don't think you can join direct. I think you have to have left the British Forces and then apply to join the Canadian forces. From there, I would imagine that you would then have to apply to immigrate into Canada, apply for citizenship and then go ahead with the application to join the Canadian Forces. That said I'm not sure if they fast track your application on the basis that you'll be joining the forces. :confused:

So basically its a complete pain in the arse with no guarantees that you'll be accepted. The biggest gamble is having to leave the British Army before applying to the Canadians and then run the risk of geting knocked back.

Bit of a bugger really, that said I'm considering going down this route myself if certain things don't pan out and being in Canada already must count for something! Who knows. If you're interested PM me.

Steve_P Oct 15th 2007 11:02 am

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Originally Posted by BATUSVirgin (Post 5429377)
I've heard that you can, but there are a few differences between joining the Canadian Army as opposed to the Australian or NZ. From what I understand you can apply to the Aussies/Kiwis whilst still serving with the British Army and you can get a fair way down the application process before you even have to tell the British Army.

With the Canadian Army I don't think you can join direct. I think you have to have left the British Forces and then apply to join the Canadian forces. From there, I would imagine that you would then have to apply to immigrate into Canada, apply for citizenship and then go ahead with the application to join the Canadian Forces. That said I'm not sure if they fast track your application on the basis that you'll be joining the forces. :confused:

So basically its a complete pain in the arse with no guarantees that you'll be accepted. The biggest gamble is having to leave the British Army before applying to the Canadians and then run the risk of geting knocked back.

Bit of a bugger really, that said I'm considering going down this route myself if certain things don't pan out and being in Canada already must count for something! Who knows. If you're interested PM me.

Canadian Armed Forces website.

How to join page.

From the site:

To be eligible for consideration for the Canadian Forces, you must meet the following minimal conditions:
  • be a Canadian citizen;
    • Citizens of another country who have landed immigrant (Permanent Resident) status in Canada may also be considered for enrolment when the CF has need of their skill, when the position cannot be filled by a Canadian citizen, and if the national interest would not be prejudiced. However, only under exceptional circumstances will authority be granted to enrol a citizen of another country.
  • be 17 years of age (with parental/guardian consent) or older;
    • junior level Military College applicants must be 16 years of age;
    • you may be enrolled in the Reserves providing you are 16 years of age;
  • meet the minimum education requirements for your entry plan and/or occupation;
    • this can vary from Grade 10 (Sec III in Quebec) for combat arms occupations to a university degree for the Direct Entry Officer entry plan.

Cheers
Steve

airbornesapper Oct 15th 2007 11:09 am

Re: Military Reserves
 

Originally Posted by smiges33 (Post 5428923)
has any one left the regular uk forces and joined the regular canadian forces?

Yep...did 9 years in the REs, left in 1987 to join the CF (Canadian Forces)...still in, and still with the Regular Force...

The CF sent me back though to the UK on exchange from 2002 through 2006.

Its a strange world.

All the best...Kev

Souvenir Oct 18th 2007 12:37 am

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What Steve_P posted about eligibility is true. Note, though, the phrase "exceptional circumstances". Souvette, who knows about this stuff, has told me that people from the UK forces are most welcome. It's not official policy, it just is. There are obviously some branches you can't get into without Canadian citizenship because of the need for security clearances but otherwise it's pretty easy.

kazbob Oct 18th 2007 3:10 am

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It sounds as if there may be a route in there, but has anyone any idea how it would affect those who haven't done their 22. I've got 4 years left so would it be better to wait, get the Immediate Pension, then try or is the pension transferable. Also are there upper age limits and minimum returns of service?

Any info gratefully received :thumbup:


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