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Old Dec 12th 2020, 8:37 am
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Question Mental Health Nurse (RMN, BSc) working in British Columbia

Hi All,

I have viewed many threads on here but can't seem to find an answer to my question. Forgive me if this isn't the case and feel free to move or delete or point me in the right direction.

My Wife is a Registered Mental Health Nurse (RMN, BSc) and qualified in 2014. We are tentatively looking to move (permanently) to Vancouver, BC. I have done my research on the process of getting qualifications assessed with the NNAS and then subsequent application to the BCCNM. As I understand it, RMN's (Psychiatric Nurses) are viewed as distinct nurses in their own right in the Western provinces. Does this mean that there is a separate degree for those wanting to work as Psychiatric Nurses in BC? If so, does that mean that my Wife's qualifications will be similar to those trained in Canada, meaning she may not have to sit modules/complete the bridging programme? I know this is the case for general nurses as they complete training in midwifery/mental health etc. and that isn't done in the UK. Does anyone have experience of this?

Any help would be very much welcomed :-)

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Greetings and welcome to BE!

Hopefully you have found this -
https://www.healthmatchbc.org/Health...hiatric-Nurses
Provisional registration allows applicants to practise as nurses in British Columbia while they wait to write the Registered Psychiatric Nurses of Canada Examination (RPNCE) or in order to meet a practice requirement of the regulatory body.
These will be of help to you ..
This pdf (no download, opens in new tab) may be of use to ascertain what knowledge a Canada trained RPN would need to register - http://www.rpnc.ca/sites/default/fil...Nov6-14%29.pdf
from this page: RPN Education | RPNC

and the pdf in the quote box below - opens in new tab - "Guidelines for Assisting Applicants in Determining If Their Education Meets the Entry Level Requirements of a Registered Psychiatric Nurse in Canada"
(from this page: Publications and Resources | RPNC )

The purpose of this document is to assist internationally educated psychiatric nursing applicants to assess their eligibility to apply for registration as a Registered Psychiatric Nurse (RPN) in Canada. The guidelines below allow you to compare your educational preparation to the expectations of a Canadian educatedRegistered Psychiatric Nurse at entry to practice.
http://www.rpnc.ca/sites/default/fil...quirements.pdf
and this - http://www.rpnc.ca/sites/default/fil...Chart_2015.pdf
https://www.healthmatchbc.org/Health...hiatric-Nurses

Something to keep you going until someone with experience of the process pops along

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Many thanks for your reply, Siouxie.

I’ll have a good look through the info you have linked to. I suspect the only way we’ll get some certainty is to make an application to the NNAS and subsequently the BCCNM. I have only admiration for nurses that have made it over. The visa process is daunting enough without the difficulty of proving your competency in something you’ve put so much effort in to doing over here. I’d love to hear from someone that has recently gone through the process as an RMN.
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Question Mental Health Nurse (RMN, BSc) working in British Columbia

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Hi All,

I have recently opened a new thread on this subject but it probably makes sense to continue on this one as there is a goldmine of knowledge and experience here. Siouxie was incredibly helpful on the other thread :-)

Is there anyone from an RMN background who has recently gone through the arduous process of getting registered in Canada? As I understand it, RMN's or RPN's a they're known in Canada are only regulated and distinct in their own right in the western provinces. We have been looking at BC and it is a little overwhelming. I think it's the uncertainty of it all that frightens us. Having to fork out so much time and money without knowing what you may be asked to do next. I think I have a pretty good understanding of the route, however:

1. Application to NNAS
2. Once we have the report from NNAS, we make an application to the BCCNM
3. Referred to NCAS to sit the Competency Assessment (CBA part in UK, SLA part in BC)
4. Depending on the outcome of the NCAS Competency Assessment, can either register with BCCNM and sit the RPNCE exam within a couple of years, or, more likely, be asked to complete a number of modules to cover gaps in knowledge before being able to register with BCCNM. As RPN's are seen as distinct in their own right and have separate competencies from RN's, I would hope that there shouldn't be many modules to make up gaps?

Based on those who have done this route, is my understanding correct? If so, can the majority of this be done from the UK? Ideally, we would only want to move over to Canada with a job offer and this can only be done once my Wife is registered with the BCCNM. I'm sure I read somewhere that a nurse did her modules from the UK and only went to over to complete the practical element of the modules. The college were very accommodating and let her do all of her assessments over the space of 2-3 days. This is something we think we could do but again, we would need certainty that this could be arranged.

I would love to hear from any RMN's that have recently made the move. I'm particularly keen to hear from aja424 who posted some time ago. It doesn't appear they have been active on the site for some time though.

Best Wishes,

Michael
Many Happy Returns :-)

Re the above, in terms of a visa application, it appears we will only have 380-ish points for Express Entry. With this in mind, we will probably require a job offer and nomination. I've read that job offers from outside the country are rare but with my Wife being a Nurse and these roles being in-demand in BC, we should be ok (fingers crossed). In what order should we be doing things? To get a job offer, I assume my Wife will have to be registered with the BCCNM, so the above plan still stands. Would we apply for the Express Entry Visa at the outset and get entered in to the pool and then once the formalities of getting my Wife registered as a nurse in BC, we then apply for the PNP? I understand that consultants aren't necessarily needed to apply for a visa but with the complexity of having to apply through the PNP route, would people advise paying a consultant?

Thanks in advance,

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Question Mental Health Nurse (RMN, BSc) working in British Columbia

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Re the above, in terms of a visa application, it appears we will only have 380-ish points for Express Entry. With this in mind, we will probably require a job offer and nomination. I've read that job offers from outside the country are rare but with my Wife being a Nurse and these roles being in-demand in BC, we should be ok (fingers crossed). In what order should we be doing things? To get a job offer, I assume my Wife will have to be registered with the BCCNM, so the above plan still stands. Would we apply for the Express Entry Visa at the outset and get entered in to the pool and then once the formalities of getting my Wife registered as a nurse in BC, we then apply for the PNP? I understand that consultants aren't necessarily needed to apply for a visa but with the complexity of having to apply through the PNP route, would people advise paying a consultant?

Thanks in advance,

Michael
So this is the PNP route for nurses to look at - https://www.welcomebc.ca/Immigrate-t...e-Professional

Definitely no consultant needed, it's not really any more complex with having to go through the PNP. Have you checked your FSW points to see if you'd be eligible to enter the EE pool? As that has to be the first step anyway, then you try and get a job offer and nomination.

BTW, I've moved your posts to your own thread, it's just easier to keep it all in one place and not confuse the main nursing thread with specific visa questions. :-)

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So this is the PNP route for nurses to look at

Definitely no consultant needed, it's not really any more complex with having to go through the PNP. Have you checked your FSW points to see if you'd be eligible to enter the EE pool? As that has to be the first step anyway, then you try and get a job offer and nomination.

BTW, I've moved your posts to your own thread, it's just easier to keep it all in one place and not confuse the main nursing thread with specific visa questions. :-)
Thanks for your reply and for moving the post - I'm new to all of this :-)

Yes, FSW score is 74 and EE score is 405 (didn't calculate it correctly first time). So from what I gather, I initially make an EE application through the FSW pathway. I'm then entered into the pool and given a profile number and job seeker validation code. I then seek a job offer and make a PNP application through the EEBC Healthcare Profession pathway? Question is; how long can I sit in the EE pool for? is it open-ended? My Wife will have to sort quals and registration with the BCCNM before seeking work. This could take 18-24m. Should we do this first before making any visa applications or should we do the EE application initially, then sort quals/registration and then seek work? Or does it not make any difference really?

Many thanks for all your kind advice!
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So this is the PNP route for nurses to look at - https://www.welcomebc.ca/Immigrate-t...e-Professional
Thinking about this, Christmasoompa; if my Wife requires a job offer for the above PNP but she has to be in the country to study additional modules to register with the BCCNM (regulator), how can we go down this route? I can't imagine employers offering a job when the applicant may have to study for 12 months first, surely? And if the majority of nurses have to complete some level of further study, how can this be viable? I initially wondered if we could complete the additional training from the UK and then apply but that isn't the case. If there are any nurses out there who could offer some advice, that would be most welcome
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Hello Michael,

I am an RMN who qualified in 2016 and I am looking into moving over to BC! I have been absolutely scouring the internet to try and gain more information on this exhausting process and came across your thread. Unknowingly to you this has been very helpful so thank you.

I have just received my report back from the NNAS and it has come back as 'Comparable'. I have now submitted an application for registration to the BCCNM so I am awaiting the likely news that I will have to complete the NCAS .

I haven't event contemplated the VISA process as of yet but I am leaning towards the PNP

How are things going for you and your wife? Are you any further along in the process? I am shamelessly trying to see if you have any more information on how to prepare for the NCAS haha

Hope this message finds you both well.

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Hello Michael,

I am an RMN who qualified in 2016 and I am looking into moving over to BC! I have been absolutely scouring the internet to try and gain more information on this exhausting process and came across your thread. Unknowingly to you this has been very helpful so thank you.

I have just received my report back from the NNAS and it has come back as 'Comparable'. I have now submitted an application for registration to the BCCNM so I am awaiting the likely news that I will have to complete the NCAS .

I haven't event contemplated the VISA process as of yet but I am leaning towards the PNP

How are things going for you and your wife? Are you any further along in the process? I am shamelessly trying to see if you have any more information on how to prepare for the NCAS haha

Hope this message finds you both well.

Emily
Hi Emily,

Sorry it’s taken me a while to get back to you.

I’m so happy that you’ve decided to do this, it’ll be a great adventure for you!

It’s still a dream for us and we haven’t gotten any further yet. The pandemic has taken all of our time and energy, as we both work in the NHS and have seen our caseloads fit to bursting! We’ve also had a couple of other issues which have meant putting things on the back-burner for now.

Re the ‘comparable’ result from NNAS; that’s a positive at least! I do suspect you’re right though, in that you’ll still be asked to complete the NCAS. Hopefully, you’ll smash that and not have to do much else. Like you, we’ve not had the opportunity to speak to/read of other RMN’s making the move and I think it’ll be a different journey to that of other nurses.

We will 100% be making the move, or at least doing everything we can to make it possible. For now though, we’ll watch your journey with anticipation and look forward to any updates and info that you can share with us.

Good Luck,

Michael 😊
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I'm not sure if you have had a chance to read through the (quite long) thread for nursing? There's a few RMN posts within it that might be of use to you.
https://britishexpats.com/forum/cana.../#post12371016

Some other threads that may be of interest:

https://britishexpats.com/forum/cana...-go-bc-872004/
https://britishexpats.com/forum/immi...canada-897398/
https://britishexpats.com/forum/nurs...ccupations-72/
https://britishexpats.com/forum/cana...-nurse-869345/
https://britishexpats.com/forum/cana...canada-884077/
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