Re: manual or auto
Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey
(Post 9563293)
Exactly..i loathe automatics..no control as to when you change gear...no low end ummpff when tearing away from the lights or overtaking..you control the car with a manual..its the one thing i miss here is the lack of manual cars to choose from..so im stuck with an automatic:frown:
But it's not been the case for many years that you can't control when an autobox changes gear - up or down. My Honday Odyssey (over two tons of minivan) kicks down entirely predictably when overtaking and I can anticipate upchanges with only the slightest of throttle lift. It also kicks down on overrun when approaching junctions so there's plenty of grunt when the light turns green before you get there. |
Re: manual or auto
Originally Posted by Oakvillian
(Post 9565402)
I much prefer a manual for "spirited" driving (I enjoy the heel-and-toe, double-declutching necessity of an old motor with dodgy synchromesh cones...). Even my little Hyundai Accent can offer a surprising amount of fun on back roads, and provoke some raised eyebrows amongst the cart-sprung live-axle truck owners.
But it's not been the case for many years that you can't control when an autobox changes gear - up or down. My Honday Odyssey (over two tons of minivan) kicks down entirely predictably when overtaking and I can anticipate upchanges with only the slightest of throttle lift. It also kicks down on overrun when approaching junctions so there's plenty of grunt when the light turns green before you get there. Also yes i could get a manual but they are much less readily available than Autos so choice is less. |
Re: manual or auto
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 9562855)
Easier to rock a manual out of a snow bank, should the need arise. Sometimes clutch control can be a blessing too when there is limited traction, but then again, the vast majority of cars in Canada have autos and they get by. The tiptronic type DSG is undoubtedly a great bit of engineering, but I would still miss the whole zen thing of heel and toe brakeing, blipping the throttle on downshifts into a sharp corner and all that, its part of the fun of driving for me. Less so getting an achy left leg sitting in traffic on the 401. Horses for courses I guess.
But as far as the original question go it makes no difference, get what you prefer based on your budget and driving preferences. |
Re: manual or auto
I agree with the previous comment: “found my automatic easier in the winter”. When it’s cold, say less than 15C, manuals become notchy/obstructive and a real pain to use. Furthermore, you don’t have your typical British country back-roads here in which to enjoy powering through bends.
I see no point in having an automatic in N. America. |
Re: manual or auto
Originally Posted by winespill
(Post 9566031)
I agree with the previous comment: “found my automatic easier in the winter”. When it’s cold, say less than 15C, manuals become notchy/obstructive and a real pain to use. Furthermore, you don’t have your typical British country back-roads here in which to enjoy powering through bends.
I see no point in having an automatic in N. America. This doesn't occur if you start your car a few minutes before using it to warm things up and get the fluids flowing;) |
Re: manual or auto
Originally Posted by Piff Poff
(Post 9566114)
This doesn't occur if you start your car a few minutes before using it to warm things up and get the fluids flowing;)
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Re: manual or auto
I prefer manual, but I have an auto. The auto is a boring drive, but as it's on boring straight roads with frequent stop signs or traffic lights it doesn't really matter. In summary, driving here is boring and having a manual probably won't make it interesting.
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Re: manual or auto
Originally Posted by big ron
(Post 9562528)
Hi All
When I get my licence changed when I finally move to Ontario will it allow me to drive a manual,and if so is it cheaper to buy and insure a manual .Thanks. |
Re: manual or auto
Originally Posted by Steve_P
(Post 9566126)
Letting the engine warm up does nothing for the transmission. The only way to warm that up is to drive the vehicle but not aggressively for the first few miles.
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Re: manual or auto
I know my auto tranny subaru kicks like a mule going from 1st to 2nd when its good and cold, presumably to do with transmission fluid viscosity.
Id never noticed any drop off in performance with the manual Honda or the old Jeep, but the knob gets cold:) As I said earlier, there isnt one right choice, pick what you prefer for the kind of driving you are likely to do. |
Re: manual or auto
Originally Posted by Oakvillian
(Post 9565402)
I much prefer a manual for "spirited" driving (I enjoy the heel-and-toe, double-declutching necessity of an old motor with dodgy synchromesh cones...). Even my little Hyundai Accent can offer a surprising amount of fun on back roads, and provoke some raised eyebrows amongst the cart-sprung live-axle truck owners.
But it's not been the case for many years that you can't control when an autobox changes gear - up or down. My Honday Odyssey (over two tons of minivan) kicks down entirely predictably when overtaking and I can anticipate upchanges with only the slightest of throttle lift. It also kicks down on overrun when approaching junctions so there's plenty of grunt when the light turns green before you get there. |
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