Rich_007

No just rusty old Ladas and you knows it is mush. All the big houses in Chelsea have been bought by Russian Mafia types, place has gone to the dogs, next thing Madonna will be moving in.

Rich.

buzz365

Sorry i have to tell you im laughing my socks off. What rubbish.

kt0157

Nah. Madonna lives near Marble Arch.

K.

Rich_007

OK so I'm a dumb liar and the police and intelligence sources are liars too.....

http://www.mcrkba.org/Letters/38.html
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...05/ai_n9499572
http://members.madasafish.com/~opus/...er.061202.html



Rich.

buzz365

For a start i never take much stock in what the media say as they only report the fashion of the moment, and yes your always going to find certain element within a community who are going to break the law but this is only a small percentage. As usual a certain type of person will use snippets of news and sound bites to over exaggerate situations. As for the police and intelligence sources all i see is loads of arrests, but very little in making convictions. This leads me to believe that far too many of the people they label as criminals are in fact innocent.

dbd33

It might help if we had a working definition of a credible source; the BBC, the Grauniad, the Torygraph, the NYT, the Globe and Mail, the CBC, AFP, Reuter's are generally thought credible sources. Articles from those sources still have to be taken with a pinch of salt but the facts claimed generally are more or less true. Croatiafocus.com is not a credible source. Quoting fringe groups tends to weaken one's argument.

dingbat

Believed by many would be immigrants:


"I am emigrating to Canada for a better life/education for my children...."

There you go...a case in point.

Calgal

Begin rant:

Absolutely bang on, Rich!! Isn't this the real problem? It's nothing to do with skin colour or Country of origin - it's the welfare system that's at fault and in need of major reformation!

My brother's family are a perfect example. His wife's Father has 'had a bad back' ever since I was unfortunate enough to make his aquaintance some 20 odd years ago. So bad in fact; that he has been 'unable' to work a single day in all that time and god knows how long before that! He has always lived off of disability and whatever other benefits he can get his hands on (as do most other members of the family). I was stunned when he came to my house when I left England to help my brother relieve me of a few pieces of heavy furniture that I couldn't sell at such short notice; this included lifting and loading into a van, and driving back home, and unloading at the other end. Obviously not 'that' bad!

Now, before I get jumped on; the only 'proof' of this I can offer is what I've witnessed myself and that which my brother and his wife tells me (he has the misfortune to live with them)..

He (my bro) works ridiculously long hours at a manual job - sees little or nothing of his wages, whilst his wife (also too 'ill' to work - not), stays home and claims some sort of benefits/dole. Her mother is also (and always has been) at home claiming benefits, and their other adult children do the same. Even my brothers children are learning to emulate their elders - the youngest daughter, now 21, has never had a job, because she has 'kidney trouble' and her mother claims benefits for her; yet somehow her problems don't seem to prevent her from doing everything other normal 21 year olds do (including smoking heavily and drinking) EXCEPT working for a living! Her mother told me herself she gets over 800 quid a month in disability benefit just for her and another of their four 'kids' alone (all grown up though ), and more for her herself. Her parents own a house in Mitcham, Surrey (albeit modest) and also own a large static mobile home by the sea, which they visit regularly every summer for holidays. They also recently purchased a mini-van (which neither of them can even even drive).

My parents were good, honest, hard working people all their lives (my Mum is seventy and still working), rented a small coucil house and never once took any form of handout (except child allowance), and we never had holidays, only a few day trips. They could never afford such luxuries as a caravan by the sea! My dad could barely afford to repair his old dilapidated vehicles which he needed for his work. Something is very definitely wrong with this picture!

The above typifies what is really wrong with the (Y)UK IMO. Who can blame employers for giving work to willing eastern Europeans when many people in the UK wouldn't understand the concept of "a fair days work for a days pay" if it bit them in the arse??

End rant.

Calgal

I can't speak for others - but in our experience, it was/is fact! Well; except maybe the education part

(Apparently "Wording" is NOT a word!)

AnnetteM

Awww Steve, congratulations from me.... and thanks for giving me such a laugh through this stupid thread!!!!

Has anyone noticed how many times KT uses the word "bigot"? Seems to apply to anyone, in any topic to which he/she has differing opinion.

Guess what, KT - it's really true about the cars for immigrants.

dingbat

Tee hee...you too..I had the same war about wording, the misuse and application of accept and except and of course loose to mean lose. I'm told I am too fussy...that "this stuff doesn't matter these days" and yet if someone needs a letter written that will likely get ministerial attention, guess who gets asked to write it?

Calgal

I continue to be amazed at the crap that comes back from school! I'm far form perfect, or an expert - but it's a bit much when one's fourteen year old daughter seems better qualified than the bloody English Teacher!

Have you not seen the "Shocked" thread in the Maple Leaf?

steve666

Didn't read the rest of your stuff, saw you moved, never heard of the other place but I guess you're happier there.

Lately we've rethought the Oakville experience and have decided to land in the Northwest Territories, Yellowknife to be precise, because we want to be away from immigrants and I want to be a diamond prospector.

steve666

How far advanced are you in your training? What colour is your light sabre? Do you get a black one when you complete your training like in Judo?

'Immigrant' is the wrong term to use when speaking of our Eastern European cousins, in fact they're in the E.U. which means they generally have the rights of us citizens, they can sign on, get jobs etc. without having to go through the immigration route. So stop calling them immigrants.

Hotels are brilliant over here now, almost all the hotel staff (except management, so far) I've met during my travels around this country are from eastern Europe, trying to explain the other day that my morning tea was weak and could I have another tea bag, please (I'm always polite) he returned with a larger empty cup. I decided not to take it any further and thanked him. Speaking on the phone is also a struggle, after booking into a hotel by phone and having a surreal conversation with the guy at the other end I arrive the next afternoon to find he had booked me into an expensive 2 bedroom suite instead of a single room. The person at the desk who I was trying to explain it to was also eastern European and eventually had to call an English person to get the situation sorted. I find it great fun and a distraction but there are others who get very wound up.

And there are also the French... But I suppose I can put up with their kin in Canada.

steve666

12 pages now... a record surely must be in the offing...