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crofty82 Jan 31st 2021 5:48 pm

Living in Canada but being paid in GBP
 
We live in Canada and wife is self-employed, being paid mostly by UK clients in GBP and I have two questions:

1. When filing a Canadian tax return and declaring the self-employed income, she will presumably have to convert the GBP earned to CAD. Should she do the conversion of each payment separately using the exchange rate on the date she was paid, or lump it all together and use the rate on the day she files the return?

2. She is required to charge HST to Canadian clients if she earns over $30,000 in the previous year, and the GBP earned counts towards this figure. Again, to decide whether she's over or under $30,000, should she convert the GBP to CAD for each payment separately using the rate on the date of payment, or as a lump sum on the date of working it out?

Twitcher1958 Jan 31st 2021 6:54 pm

Re: Living in Canada but being paid in GBP
 
We don’t have self employed income to deal with, but do have rental income etc through the year. We use Bank of Canada annual average exchange rate throughout - we do it automatically now but can’t remember where we initially got that advice - Turbotax?

Siouxie Jan 31st 2021 7:24 pm

Re: Living in Canada but being paid in GBP
 

Originally Posted by crofty82 (Post 12966511)
We live in Canada and wife is self-employed, being paid mostly by UK clients in GBP and I have two questions:

1. When filing a Canadian tax return and declaring the self-employed income, she will presumably have to convert the GBP earned to CAD. Should she do the conversion of each payment separately using the exchange rate on the date she was paid, or lump it all together and use the rate on the day she files the return?

2. She is required to charge HST to Canadian clients if she earns over $30,000 in the previous year, and the GBP earned counts towards this figure. Again, to decide whether she's over or under $30,000, should she convert the GBP to CAD for each payment separately using the rate on the date of payment, or as a lump sum on the date of working it out?

1) I would convert to CAD on the date it was received - not the date it was 'earned' or bulk over the year - https://www.taxtips.ca/filing/foreignamounts.htm - exchange rate changes daily/hourly (it can work to your advantage on days when the exchange rate drops). Use the official site to obtain the exchange rate for that day.. https://www.bankofcanada.ca/rates/ex...xchange-rates/

2) She is required to charge HST to Canadian Clients - if her clients are outside of Canada she should Invoice them at a rate of 0% for services provided to overseas clients.

3) She needs to invoice her clients if she is self employed (I can give you links to free accounting software) - and keep track of her 'use of home office' expenses :) (suggest using Studio Tax (approved program) or similar for her tax return)
https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-age...ed-income.html
https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-age...ietorship.html
4) She will also have to pay CPP on her earnings (as well as taxes) - EI is optional.

If she isn't using her own name for the business she may need to register: https://settlement.org/ontario/emplo...ss-in-ontario/
Business guide for newcomers to Canada | FedDev Ontario Small Business Services
https://sbs-spe.feddevontario.canada.ca/en

crofty82 Feb 11th 2021 1:04 pm

Re: Living in Canada but being paid in GBP
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12966545)
1) I would convert to CAD on the date it was received - not the date it was 'earned' or bulk over the year - https://www.taxtips.ca/filing/foreignamounts.htm - exchange rate changes daily/hourly (it can work to your advantage on days when the exchange rate drops). Use the official site to obtain the exchange rate for that day.. https://www.bankofcanada.ca/rates/ex...xchange-rates/

2) She is required to charge HST to Canadian Clients - if her clients are outside of Canada she should Invoice them at a rate of 0% for services provided to overseas clients.

3) She needs to invoice her clients if she is self employed (I can give you links to free accounting software) - and keep track of her 'use of home office' expenses :) (suggest using Studio Tax (approved program) or similar for her tax return)
https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-age...ed-income.html
https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-age...ietorship.html
4) She will also have to pay CPP on her earnings (as well as taxes) - EI is optional.

If she isn't using her own name for the business she may need to register: https://settlement.org/ontario/emplo...ss-in-ontario/
Business guide for newcomers to Canada | FedDev Ontario Small Business Services
https://sbs-spe.feddevontario.canada.ca/en

Thanks again Siouxie.

BristolUK Feb 11th 2021 2:08 pm

Re: Living in Canada but being paid in GBP
 

Originally Posted by Twitcher1958 (Post 12966530)
We don’t have self employed income to deal with, but do have rental income etc through the year. We use Bank of Canada annual average exchange rate throughout - we do it automatically now but can’t remember where we initially got that advice - Turbotax?

It was certainly suggested on one of those sites. Turbo or Studio maybe.


Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12966545)
1) I would convert to CAD on the date it was received - not the date it was 'earned' or bulk over the year - https://www.taxtips.ca/filing/foreignamounts.htm - exchange rate changes daily/hourly (it can work to your advantage on days when the exchange rate drops). Use the official site to obtain the exchange rate for that day.. https://www.bankofcanada.ca/rates/ex...xchange-rates/

I actually do both :lol:

Long ago I set up a spread sheet for my rental income - albeit that was Canada - and I did the same for my monthly UK superan.
I use the exchange rate 'on the day' so I have an annual total in £ and an annual total in $.

But then I also use the bank of canada annual average. Since both are acceptable, I'm ready to use the one most favourable to me. But there's little difference. For example, the difference between the two figures for 2020 is $5.05. Obviously with higher amounts than my apparently gold plated pension, the difference will be higher.

But you never know...when it comes to things like a drug plan a couple of $$ extra taxable income per year can put you in a different income band and can double your premiums and co-pays :ohmy:





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