Leaving Family & Friends
#31
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Re: Leaving Family & Friends
Very true. For a normal family to move from a grim northern town to a family home in the sort of crime free areas with good schools that do exist in the UK is almost impossible. The difference in property prices makes it so.
A move to Canada might actually be the cheaper option. Plus, you get the blank canvas to build your new life.
A move to Canada might actually be the cheaper option. Plus, you get the blank canvas to build your new life.
#32
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Still, i do personally find it odd that people can remove their children from their family, friends, and support network, and move across the world "for their own good".
Maybe when i have kids i'll understand.
Last edited by el_richo; Apr 9th 2010 at 9:34 pm.
#33
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Plus such a family, i would assume, would have limited earning potential in the same way they do in the UK unless they retrain, progress, or influence their career choice. That said, they can also do the latter in the UK.
Again, all assumptions on my side.
I do find these decisions interesting.
#34
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Not sure about that one. I would have thought a family living in a grim northern town, who cannot afford to move a few miles down the road to a nicer area, would struggle to afford to uproot themselves, cover the moving expense, and live a more affluent life in Canada. Mainly due to grim northern house prices probably being not much different to lower end Canadian areas.
Plus such a family, i would assume, would have limited earning potential in the same way they do in the UK unless they retrain, progress, or influence their career choice. That said, they can also do the latter in the UK.
Again, all assumptions on my side.
I do find these decisions interesting.
Plus such a family, i would assume, would have limited earning potential in the same way they do in the UK unless they retrain, progress, or influence their career choice. That said, they can also do the latter in the UK.
Again, all assumptions on my side.
I do find these decisions interesting.
#35
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Re: Leaving Family & Friends
You could easily move from a grim northern town Ā£100k two up terrace house to a nice Quinte $150k 3 bed large lot detached house, even at the current crap exchange rate. The same thing in a Posh footballer populated bit of the NW would be well out of range Just a hypothetical example...
#37
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Most kids who grow up in the UK do ok though as do most kids who emigrate with their parents. In fact most kids do turn out ok and it's about the parents rather than the location. Hasn't Oink produced stats (hopefully rae won't read this) that indicate that the majority of child achievement is based on the parents rather than the school or something like that. I think this is agreeing with your last sentence anyway.
#38
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Assumptions based upon the family living close to family and friends in the UK within reasonable commuting distance of at least one large city, at least one area of open countryside, and access to public amenities such as swimming, parks, play areas, etc.
I still think people tend to confuse their wants with their childrens needs with regards to this topic..
Last edited by el_richo; Apr 9th 2010 at 11:05 pm.
#39
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Re: Leaving Family & Friends
I am not, for a moment, suggesting all of the UK is like this, or that it cannot happen in Canada, but it is a reality for some people. They do have a fear of letting their children play unattended, and fear of the influence of the "bad lads" as they grow up. The fear may be unfounded but it is real.
#40
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That said, perception is important. Do we need to remove our children from their support network, friends, family, influential folk in their lives, and move them across the world to make their lives better? Probably not.
Last edited by el_richo; Apr 9th 2010 at 11:37 pm.
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#42
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I don't disagree. If people feel more comfortable about letting their kids outside here then it's a good thing however unfounded the original fear is.
There have been a couple of murders of teenage girls in BC recently as you probably know. Despite this, the actual risk of this happening is very low, and probably not that much different in either place. By which I mean the average brit doesn't seem to be any more or less psychotic than the average canadian
There have been a couple of murders of teenage girls in BC recently as you probably know. Despite this, the actual risk of this happening is very low, and probably not that much different in either place. By which I mean the average brit doesn't seem to be any more or less psychotic than the average canadian
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Re: Leaving Family & Friends
Agreed. Sometimes you just need to scratch that itch but i'm amazed at how many people look so far afield, and at such an emotional and potentially financial expense to do this, as a first choice.
Still, i do personally find it odd that people can remove their children from their family, friends, and support network, and move across the world "for their own good".
Maybe when i have kids i'll understand.
Still, i do personally find it odd that people can remove their children from their family, friends, and support network, and move across the world "for their own good".
Maybe when i have kids i'll understand.
#44
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Its not always people looking far afield, sometimes (as in our case) the opportunity comes looking for you. Life is very short and for me, you only live once, opportunities come along very rarely so when they arrive they should be grabbed! My husband got offered an excellent position, we have children and although it was really hard to take them away from their friends and family we also wanted to offer them something different, give them another viewpoint in life. Friends and family will always be there, just a little further afield and with skype and e-mail we can keep in touch, I know its not quite the same and it is hard for all of us, probably more for me than anyone. We didn't do it 'for their own good' we did it for - the life experience, the opportunity to see life in a different way and because we were offered the opportunity. Who knows whether its been the right thing to do or not, only time will tell but at least we can regret something we HAVE done not something we HAVEN'T.
In the next few years, interaction with people left behind in other countries will be much simpler and more effective through the likes of Telepresence technologies so the distance will become psychologically and emotionally more acceptable, in my opinion.
I personally think allowing children more experience in the world is a good thing but parents need to be careful and more honest in their reasoning for uprooting to another country (as you appear to be).
Last edited by el_richo; Apr 10th 2010 at 10:40 am.
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Re: Leaving Family & Friends
You're right, however the basis of my posts are around those seeking a move "for the kids".
In the next few years, interaction with people left behind in other countries will be much simpler and more effective through the likes of Telepresence technologies so the distance will become psychologically and emotionally more acceptable, in my opinion.
I personally think allowing children more experience in the world is a good thing but parents need to be careful and more honest in their reasoning for uprooting to another country (as you appear to be).
In the next few years, interaction with people left behind in other countries will be much simpler and more effective through the likes of Telepresence technologies so the distance will become psychologically and emotionally more acceptable, in my opinion.
I personally think allowing children more experience in the world is a good thing but parents need to be careful and more honest in their reasoning for uprooting to another country (as you appear to be).