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Old May 31st 2005, 3:22 pm
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Just wandered if anyone had gone down the Journeyman job route. I know that most craftsmen have to be Journeyman certified and/or have interprovisional certification. My other half is currently a powerlineman in UK (with 20 yrs experience) and as we understand it he will have to either complete a part apprenticeship or sit an exam in order to gain this journeyman cert.

Our application was submitted two weeks ago although we still await AOR. As with most of us here it would be nice to have a job to go to once we land. Although our application (skilled worker) has gone we have been told that we could in the meantime try to get him a position. Has anyone been there and done it?

Any Powerlineman / Leccies on forum?

We are hoping to settle in Red Deer, Alberta. We have various company contacts. Seems impracticle to contact at present without doing what he needs to do.

Where do we go from here? Would HRDC help?

Any advice/experience would be much appreciated, please!!
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Old Jun 2nd 2005, 10:51 am
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Hi Alison, I work for National Grid Transco in the UK and have a ex colleague who has managed to get his red seal qualification in Canada as a Power Electrician journeyman.
The web site you require for Alberta for a Powerline Journeymanis:- http://www.tradesecrets.org/index.ht...cupations.html.

The major Companies that hire in this field are:-

http://www.altalink.ca/
http://www.enmax.com/Corporation/Careers/default.htm
http://www.bchydro.com/
West Kootenay Power

Your husband will need to get his red seal certificate to practice as it is a licensed trade.

There are always lots of vacancies in this profession due to a lot of Powerlinesman going to the States to earn better money to repair all of the storm damage.

Let me know how he gets on as I have applied for many jobs with them but they just wont talk, even though I have 26 yours experience in High Voltage Transmission systems and are registered with the appropriate professional association!
We landed in Calgary, September last year and have our SIN and PR cards but are very unsure of employment prospects so we are continuing to carry out more research from the UK.

Be very interested if I can find someone who has actually got in as an immigrant. He may have to go contracting instead like my colleague who lives in Okatoks, Alberta.

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I am an industrial Electrician/ C & I Tech, Although I applied for PR in Jan05, I have a job offer (pending HRDC approval), but it was only viable as the company have hired me a specialist. Once I land I will want to get my journeyman certificate.
If it wasn't for the job offer I would have fully anticipated starting on an apprentice rate, whilst studying for my Journeyman licence. I dont think it is the type of thing you can just sit and pass as the Electrical industry differs vastly from the UK.

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Hi

Just wandered if anyone had gone down the Journeyman job route. I know that most craftsmen have to be Journeyman certified and/or have interprovisional certification. My other half is currently a powerlineman in UK (with 20 yrs experience) and as we understand it he will have to either complete a part apprenticeship or sit an exam in order to gain this journeyman cert.

Our application was submitted two weeks ago although we still await AOR. As with most of us here it would be nice to have a job to go to once we land. Although our application (skilled worker) has gone we have been told that we could in the meantime try to get him a position. Has anyone been there and done it?

Any Powerlineman / Leccies on forum?

We are hoping to settle in Red Deer, Alberta. We have various company contacts. Seems impracticle to contact at present without doing what he needs to do.

Where do we go from here? Would HRDC help?

Any advice/experience would be much appreciated, please!!
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Hi Alison, I work for National Grid Transco in the UK and have a ex colleague who has managed to get his red seal qualification in Canada as a Power Electrician journeyman.
The web site you require for Alberta for a Powerline Journeymanis:- http://www.tradesecrets.org/index.ht...cupations.html.

The major Companies that hire in this field are:-

http://www.altalink.ca/
http://www.enmax.com/Corporation/Careers/default.htm
http://www.bchydro.com/
West Kootenay Power

Your husband will need to get his red seal certificate to practice as it is a licensed trade.

There are always lots of vacancies in this profession due to a lot of Powerlinesman going to the States to earn better money to repair all of the storm damage.

Let me know how he gets on as I have applied for many jobs with them but they just wont talk, even though I have 26 yours experience in High Voltage Transmission systems and are registered with the appropriate professional association!
We landed in Calgary, September last year and have our SIN and PR cards but are very unsure of employment prospects so we are continuing to carry out more research from the UK.

Be very interested if I can find someone who has actually got in as an immigrant. He may have to go contracting instead like my colleague who lives in Okatoks, Alberta.

Paul
Hi Paul

Thanks for the reply. Started to think that maybe we were on our own on this one. I'm not sure how your job spec differs from Matt's and as he's out working cannot ask him at the moment. I beleive that he works on stuff between 11kv and 33kv maint and repair and rubber glove working. Matt has made calls to a few companies and although they have been fairly helpful until we land there doesn't seem much we can do. They don't seem to want to talk to much too you unless your in a position to work. We plan to settle in Red Deer, Alberta but are still going through the waiting process. We'll keep you updated on any progress we make becuase although our application is in we still plan to try and get jobs before we arrive (if possible!!). Thanks for the info.

Best of luck with yours. Let us know how you get on.

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Hi Alison, I am currently a manager for National Grid and have 26 years of experience in High Voltage Substations and Overhead Power Lines to 400kV. To practice in Canada I would have to enter at Technologist level which I think is where the problem lies. You need to get in at journeyan level and work up as they tend to promote by seniorority, not skill or experience.
We have PR and SIN numbers and can work in Canada but have not had much success, but we will keep on investigating.

My colleague who completed the Power Electrical Journeyman red seal said that he only had to provide evidence of his experience and write the red seal exam, otherwise its a 4 year apprenticeship to qualify.

One company I forgot to mention was Altek Power, they were recruiting heavily at all levels last time I was in Canada and popped in to see them to drop my resume off. They are based in Calgary but have lots of contracts with all of the Power Companies in Alberta and BC.

http://www.altekpower.com/home.asp

Good luck its Sunday and time for a few

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Good luck its Sunday and time for a few
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Hi Paul,

Glad someone can have a few beers, better have a few for us!

I guess from what you say that your mainly office based?? Matt is classed as a Technician which is more senior to that of a powerlinesman. He will sometimes start at the job organisation stage, routing etc., planning, liasing with farmers, landowners etc through to the maintenance/construct, switching right through to completion. He has about 20 years experience and has stood in as Team Manager (due to his having a nervous breakdown) . He was also part of the first Uk team to be trained by the Canadians in the UK at Rubber Glove work (Dave Yeoman Assoc.). As well as being a technician he is also standby manager and rubber glove supervisor. He was offered a management position but it seems his manager earns less then him being salaried. Not only that, but he enjoys spending time in the field.

He's a bit of a workaholic and tends to be out most weekends and on call more often than not. (Good for us at the moment as were saving pennies).
We thought from what he had heard that he may have to complete a part-apprenticeship. But if this is not the case then he should (cross fingers) sail the red seal exam.

Getting work is our main concern as I guess is yours. Matt has only ever been a linesman and would like to continue doing that but I suppose he'll consider anything to start with to support me and the boys (two aged 9 & 11).

Where abouts is Gillingham? We currently live about 40 mins away from Bristol which is covered by Western Power (ex. SWEB).

Nice chatting to you.

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Hi Alison, the people in this industry emigrating to Canada seem to be few and far between and has been very difficult to find anyone to network with.
Give you an update when we get back from Hols. Off to sunny Cyprus to chill out for a couple of weeks and going to have few more of these followed by
Keep geeting loads of job offers from my Canadian Monster account, many name you price - shame they are all in Britain :scared: !

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Hope you have a good hol. Think of us slaving away. Weathers gotta be better there than were having at mo. Speak to you soon. PM me if you like on your return.

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Originally Posted by Alison33
Hi

Just wandered if anyone had gone down the Journeyman job route. I know that most craftsmen have to be Journeyman certified and/or have interprovisional certification. My other half is currently a powerlineman in UK (with 20 yrs experience) and as we understand it he will have to either complete a part apprenticeship or sit an exam in order to gain this journeyman cert.

Our application was submitted two weeks ago although we still await AOR. As with most of us here it would be nice to have a job to go to once we land. Although our application (skilled worker) has gone we have been told that we could in the meantime try to get him a position. Has anyone been there and done it?

Any Powerlineman / Leccies on forum?

We are hoping to settle in Red Deer, Alberta. We have various company contacts. Seems impracticle to contact at present without doing what he needs to do.

Where do we go from here? Would HRDC help?

Any advice/experience would be much appreciated, please!!

Hi Alison
Would love to know if you have found any houses for sale in Red Deer. There seems to be a shortage of houses for sale in that area as in the "GROWTH AREAS" of Edmonton. I work in the oil industry in the UK and from the info i have found you don't always have to pass the trade exams sometimes the employer will merit you on your skills. You can download the exam papers from WWWtradesecrets.org just scroll down to the relevant section.My wife and i chose Red Deer seems like a pioneering town between two established Cities :scared: :scared: Still need somewhere to live if we get a job!!!!!!!
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Just stumbled upon you post, im wanting to get a apprenticeship in Canada as an electrician i have completed my first two years of my electrical qualification in the Uk, and i have the 3rd year to do which i will be doing long distance in Canada which should be fun.

Is this career hard to get into in Canada i have looked about on the web but nothing really helps apart from tell me that i need to do an apprenticship which i know is the best way to learn anyhow, im only 25 though.

Cheers
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Hi,
It's best to be realistic about what you can expect in the way of a job when you arrive in Canada. There is a very strong "buddy" network, which there is everywhere in the world, of course, in the UK too, but you will not be part of it in Canada initially. You will not therefore be considered for most jobs.

We emigrated in 1992. My husband is in the hotel business. He is a Mechanical Engineer (professional) and was at the very top of his career, a Director of Engineering in a 5 star hotel. We went without a job to go to. He got a job straight away.

As a shift engineer, paying $7.50 an hour. The very bottom of his career, where he had started in 1975. He had to go back to college and take Boiler Operators Certificates, basic qualifications he had long risen above. But without them he would have gone no-where, even with his degree and experience.

It took 7 years for him to work his way back up to where he had been.

And that only began to happen once he was able to "prove" himself to the people he worked for, and got recommendations for jobs from those on the inside. That's how it works.

Best to be realistic,
Good luck
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Hi Alison
Would love to know if you have found any houses for sale in Red Deer. There seems to be a shortage of houses for sale in that area as in the "GROWTH AREAS" of Edmonton. I work in the oil industry in the UK and from the info i have found you don't always have to pass the trade exams sometimes the employer will merit you on your skills. You can download the exam papers from WWWtradesecrets.org just scroll down to the relevant section.My wife and i chose Red Deer seems like a pioneering town between two established Cities :scared: :scared: Still need somewhere to live if we get a job!!!!!!!
Hi,
I have a friend that lives in Red Deer and apparently there are lots of new housing developments going up at the moment. I haven't really looked at houses there just yet as I feel it would be a bit premature. BTW My friend's husband also works in the oil industry. So if you need to pick someones brains I'll pass any messages on. He was just recently thinking of coming here to work on a rigg off Aberdeen as the money is much better and so is the working week.
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Just stumbled upon you post, im wanting to get a apprenticeship in Canada as an electrician i have completed my first two years of my electrical qualification in the Uk, and i have the 3rd year to do which i will be doing long distance in Canada which should be fun.

Is this career hard to get into in Canada i have looked about on the web but nothing really helps apart from tell me that i need to do an apprenticship which i know is the best way to learn anyhow, im only 25 though.

Cheers
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Sorry, as I'm also still in the UK I am unsure how hard it would be. It's a bit of a lottery for us too. Maybe seeing as your still studying and thinking about going to Canada you should look at completing your studies there. You only have a year left and the canadian experience may help you. Good Luck.
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Sorry, as I'm also still in the UK I am unsure how hard it would be. It's a bit of a lottery for us too. Maybe seeing as your still studying and thinking about going to Canada you should look at completing your studies there. You only have a year left and the canadian experience may help you. Good Luck.

Thanks for the reply Alison, do you mean finishing my studies in Canada. I was thinking of doing this as i have spoke to a tutor who offer the course long distance and says that it would be a good idea, at least if canada doenst work out for me that i can return with my qualifications.

My girlfriends dad knows a few electricians and he works for the city of ottawa so he might be able to help me find some work, i do think that staying in england and finishing my course would be a waste of a year if im thinking of Canada as i know i will have to finish some sort of training in Canada which is only natural. But i think if i can get some experience in Canada it would be better than my english qual according to most posts i read on here.

What do people think is my best option, i am 25 would this be too old of apprenticship or is it unlike the uk.

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Thanks for the reply Alison, do you mean finishing my studies in Canada. I was thinking of doing this as i have spoke to a tutor who offer the course long distance and says that it would be a good idea, at least if canada doenst work out for me that i can return with my qualifications.

My girlfriends dad knows a few electricians and he works for the city of ottawa so he might be able to help me find some work, i do think that staying in england and finishing my course would be a waste of a year if im thinking of Canada as i know i will have to finish some sort of training in Canada which is only natural. But i think if i can get some experience in Canada it would be better than my english qual according to most posts i read on here.

What do people think is my best option, i am 25 would this be too old of apprenticship or is it unlike the uk.

cheers
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Hi Ian
I think that at your time of life (25) it would be an ideal time for you to consider getting some quals and experience in Canada if that is what you want for the longterm. My partner and I on the otherhand are in are mid to late 30's and my partner especially has spent the last 20 years building up his qualifications and experience in the UK. We do hope that these count for something but are expecting him to have to put in some hard work and possibly regain canadian quals as well as experience. You could have the best of both worlds. We wish we had done this a long time ago but due kiddies coming along had to slightly postpone are plans. My eledst is due to start secondary school in Sept and my youngest isn't that far of this either so for us now is a good time. Friends and family have tried to talk us out of it for fear of us risking all that we have built up over the years. But hey, I believe that it's worth the risk and you get one life so why not? I intend to have new experiences and broaden mine and my childrens horizens. For better or worse! I would say go for it! Ask yourself what have you got to lose? You could always come back as you say. Best of Luck.
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