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Re: John & Alison Here and feeling depressed!!!
So sorry to hear that things are not working out as per plan. I do hope that life will improve for you, and you do have our sympathy.
That said, you have to now start from where you are at present, if you are to go on. Wbexpat's advice is the best I can think of. What has happened (be it ever so bloody) has happened, and now you need a positive outlook and plan as to what you will make of the situation as it stands. Would have, could have, should haves are unhelpful in the extreme. All you can do is sit down calmly, assess the situation and go from here. There may be more helpful advice to come, but it's up to you to the largest extent, what happens next! Good Luck! :thumbup: On the subject of advice from officialdom, we too found that people will often say what they think might be right, and be totally wrong, but give it as gospel. We came across that more than once when sorting ourselves out over here .... with stuff like driving licences etc. It is maddening! |
Re: John & Alison Here and feeling depressed!!!
Hi
I have just joined the site, I live in Winnipeg. Been here for 2yrs with wife. If you want to talk, please get in contact. I know a few people in Immigration I could see if they could help. Lets say there are many things I miss and it is the green grass of home. Sometimes the grass is not greener. Chris |
Re: John & Alison Here and feeling depressed!!!
Firstly *HUGS* :)
I thought we had it bad. We've weathered the downturn in the UK housing market and had near financial ruin in the UK since we moved. It's horrible and almost soul destroying - especially when all you want is to pat yourself on the back for being so brave for moving and for considering all the acomplishments you've made! We've lost all our savings and whilst we enjoy day-to-day living in Canada we've certainly had our seriously "down days". Going from having equity and security to being back at square one (with no savings or house deposit!! Yikes!!) is both scarey but also exciting. Almost a - "can we do it again!!?" kynda thing. But chin up - eh!? This is a land of opportunity!! I'm still struggling after 7 months to get my UK business off the ground in Canada with additional legal pressures, different - sometimes challenging business ethics and Government fees left, right and centre! Conflicting advice from accountants and solicitors etc. I still don't know which way to turn on some things.
Originally Posted by chris gipp
(Post 5989976)
Hi
Lets say there are many things I miss and it is the green grass of home. Sometimes the grass is not greener. Anyways... well done for making the move you guys - don't underestimate what you've achieved. And here's hoping it's all up from here on in!! Take care J&H :) |
Re: John & Alison Here and feeling depressed!!!
Hi J&A, looks like you have been well burned. Lessons learned and shared will always save someone else, hopefully! In the past, I too have learned a few expensive lessons when dealing with officialdom. Nowadays, I ALWAYS ask,"who am I speaking to?". Ask a question IN WRITING and get a response in WRITING.
As noted above, you need to go at it from a positive angle, and if you don't find what you need in Manitoba, look at another province. Maybe, JUDY, it may be worth while mentioning the "get it in writing" advice, in the WIKI? Good luck you guys! |
Re: John & Alison Here and feeling depressed!!!
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Not sure but assume you are PR, why sell the house for a massive loss? Hindsight is a wonderful thing but perhaps you should of rented it out if you risked loosing a load of money. We are on WP/PNP/PR process which conditions you to adapt both at a working level (your credentials & experience are assessed and must meet the required level to gain employment in the Canadian job market) and social integration. Don't get me wrong we tried in 2001 and got burned returned to the UK after loosing $60k's. There are no safety nets for TFW, if you are PR there are ways to turn the situation around but you've really gotta want it. Thomas |
Re: John & Alison Here and feeling depressed!!!
Originally Posted by roanin
(Post 5996814)
Maybe, JUDY, it may be worth while mentioning the "get it in writing" advice, in the WIKI?
I just want to add that anyone and everyone is free to edit Wiki articles. x |
Re: John & Alison Here and feeling depressed!!!
When things go sour it is pretty demoralizing, hard to see a way forward. Things do move on though, if you look forward they can and often do get better, look back they often stay the same.
I have always tried to look things philosophically (mostly because I thought it was a cool word, no idea what it meant) when they go south , if I can fix it I'll be concerned about it enough to deal with it, if there is naff all I can do about it, then it's done, gone, behind me, not forgotten, but a lesson learned. Now saying that I have to remind myself every now and then to stay on this path, otherwise it's a slippery slope down. |
Re: John & Alison Here and feeling depressed!!!
Originally Posted by J-A-UK
(Post 5969926)
Hi folks - Came across this site in desperation.... Trying to find if it is in fact legal for the Manitoba Government to actually retain the deposit or not.
We have been screwed!! Having taken 3 and a half years being processed on the PNP we eventually had to "sell" our house in the UK - But in real terms we gave it away, along with most of our posessions. We had 8 months from the day our visas arrived to the day they would expire. In that 8 months we lost in the region of $190,000 on the house price and exchange rate. We eventually had to fly to Canada before our visas expired and without having sold the house. We then watched the computer every morning as the exchange rate dropped - We lost a further $60,000 just on the exchange rate alone in 2 months. And what a friggin nightmare it is to sort out the most basic requirements like a car when as far as Autopac is concerned... We don't exist! Eventually we got it all sorted. But boy did we receive daily conflicting advise. But hey = Look on the bright side, the house is now sold, we have a house and a car here. We've got a credit card too (now we've bought one!!!!!!!) We had to pay for a credit card even tho the government have $75,0000 of our money and they've already had it for 2 years. Why - because we simply don't exist. We cannot get jobs, our experience and qualifications account for sweet FA. Our deposit agreement says we will open a child care facility within 2 years..... Yeah right to get the relavent ECE documents required I have to go full time to college for 2 years to learn what I have been doing for 13 years. But hey, that's ok John has been a class 1 driver for 15 years has the hazadous license too for everything from Explosives, gas, flammables the lot!!! Oh no he hasn't - he hasn't even got a truck license under Manitoba regulations and we have also found that even if he re took his license here the chances of being offered work is remote as the employers "who are screaming out for truckers" wont take him on without at least 1 and in most cases 2 years Canadian / US experience. Last Friday, having been here for 2 months we were ready to drive to the airport, park the car and fly back to the UK...... What the f88k have we done???? We are at the end of the line with this but desperate to make it work..... HOW IS IT DONE?? hope it all gets sorted, patience and perseverance for the lifestyle you went out for. sarah |
Re: John & Alison Here and feeling depressed!!!
Originally Posted by J-A-UK
(Post 5971628)
Yup - Sounds harsh!! The situation we find ourselves in is a set of consequences..... It has nothing to do with us not researching, we were here in 2003 and 2005 doing just that. We were told by our PNP guy, and we are still being told by some departments that my child care qualifcations are transferable. But they are not. We have had soooo much conflicting advise it's unreal.
My thread is a "warning" to those who are contemplating this massive step - It aint all plain sailing. You appear to have had 3 1/2 years to sell your house while you were waiting for a visa but you delayed, probably because house prices were rising. Then moan that when the market turns and you have place yourselves in a buyer paradise by having to sell quickly. Most people won't raise $190000 canadian from house sale and you are moaning about that loss. God only knows what your house was worth. You moved half way round the globe without knowing if your qualifications were acceptable. Are there no childcare organisation or associations you could have checked with? I don't have a class 1 HGV licience but I know the English one is no good in any of the provinces of Canada. Research is about a little more than house hunting on MLS!!!! Yes, your situation is unfortunate and I am sure very stressfull but it is mainly of your own making. As for a warning to others you are dead right. The warning is Research eveything and then research it again. Never take advice as gospel CHECK IT for yourself. Spend the time waiting for your visa on research not sitting on your butts with your brain in neutral. It is you who wants to emmigrate and only you who can make it happen. Plenty of peolple have posted positive advice for you so I hope you take it and are alright. Good Luck it was a very hard lesson to learn:( Winston |
Re: John & Alison Here and feeling depressed!!!
Am I wrong, in that you could have landed and then come back to Scotland to sort out your house situation, rather than rushing it through.
If you came across a Canadian couple desperate to sell their house to move, you wouldn't think I'll give them top dollar to see them on their way, you would make an offer, particularly in a deteriorating market. I've said it before, the value of a house is "what a willing buyer accepts from a willing seller", not what it might have sold to a fictional buyer 6 months before.... Anyway, I see the Trucking guys have given you positive info so onward and upward. |
Re: John & Alison Here and feeling depressed!!!
Manitoba government apparently, now offer a $5000:00 grant to assist immigrant workers to settle into an occupation which requires refresher training or similar re-qualification. You may want to check this out. This is about the cost of getting your 1a here.
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Re: John & Alison Here and feeling depressed!!!
Originally Posted by roanin
(Post 6011305)
Manitoba government apparently, now offer a $5000:00 grant to assist immigrant workers to settle into an occupation which requires refresher training or similar re-qualification. You may want to check this out. This is about the cost of getting your 1a here.
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Re: John & Alison Here and feeling depressed!!!
Na! the best province is the next one to the west! But I am truly biased.
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Re: John & Alison Here and feeling depressed!!!
Originally Posted by roanin
(Post 6011835)
Na! the best province is the next one to the west! But I am truly biased.
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Re: John & Alison Here and feeling depressed!!!
Originally Posted by Coffeepot
(Post 6011821)
Thats really interesting as they were promoting Manitoba big time yesterday at the show but no one mentioned that :blink: i thought it looked beautiful and was ready to pack my bags there and then :thumbsup: they were the friendliest bunch of people i have ever met
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