Its official Alberta Health is Closed
#17
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However, the Federal Government cut back on training places for doctors. There is no hope of Canada producing enough doctors in the next 20 years. Politically they are not prepared to import enough to bring the service up to snuff as it would cost a fortune.
One of the problems of living in such a huge country with so few folk in it.
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I'm surprised at that letter.
If you search the Alberta Health Services jobs, there are in fact 307 registered nurses jobs posted, and if you further exclude those that are only open to internal candidates (), there are still 69 posts, likely those which they've advertised and not filled previously.
Check it out http://ahs.healthjobs.ab.ca/SearchResults.aspx
Now most of these are casual or part-time, but if you land one of these that immediately puts you into the realm of "internal candidate" and opens up all the others.
If you are determined to come to Alberta, I'm sure there is a way, ..........
If you search the Alberta Health Services jobs, there are in fact 307 registered nurses jobs posted, and if you further exclude those that are only open to internal candidates (), there are still 69 posts, likely those which they've advertised and not filled previously.
Check it out http://ahs.healthjobs.ab.ca/SearchResults.aspx
Now most of these are casual or part-time, but if you land one of these that immediately puts you into the realm of "internal candidate" and opens up all the others.
If you are determined to come to Alberta, I'm sure there is a way, ..........
Last edited by Alberta_Rose; May 22nd 2010 at 3:49 am.
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Alberta Health aren't renewing LMOs for those with existing TWPs who's visas are up, or granting LMOs for any new TFWs. Canadian jobs for Canadian workers.
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Ah, I see. That's not quite the same thing as saying Alberta Health is closed.
Eventually they will see the light and start hiring again. They'll have to. It's just such a shame they are driving away good people right now.
By the time they do (another) U-turn many people who they've shunned will have moved on with their lives and gone elsewhere.
It's not unusual though, and not confined to Canada. When I was in the NHS I was helping to shortlist applicants and was told to put anybody who wasn't already licensed and resident in the UK straight in the rejects pile.
At that time new physio grads in the UK were unable to find jobs. There were over a hundred applicants for most jobs posted, and I know some decided to go abroad, and some left the profession completely, having wasted all that time training and not even able to get started once graduated.
It's a horrible situation. Both nurses and "Allied Health Professionals" now have masters level entry, so at least 6 years to qualify, and then not to be able to find work at the end of it?.....
Eventually they will see the light and start hiring again. They'll have to. It's just such a shame they are driving away good people right now.
By the time they do (another) U-turn many people who they've shunned will have moved on with their lives and gone elsewhere.
It's not unusual though, and not confined to Canada. When I was in the NHS I was helping to shortlist applicants and was told to put anybody who wasn't already licensed and resident in the UK straight in the rejects pile.
At that time new physio grads in the UK were unable to find jobs. There were over a hundred applicants for most jobs posted, and I know some decided to go abroad, and some left the profession completely, having wasted all that time training and not even able to get started once graduated.
It's a horrible situation. Both nurses and "Allied Health Professionals" now have masters level entry, so at least 6 years to qualify, and then not to be able to find work at the end of it?.....
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I am a Canadian nurse currently in the UK with my husband. For the past 3 years we had been planning on moving to Calgary (we met in Banff 4 years ago) and now that our move is looming this summer, we are gutted that we won't be able to go! There are no jobs in Calgary at all, the external candidate jobs are pretty much all in remote areas and are casual/part-time.
We have been saying since September 'oh it will change by the time we get there' but it became clear a month ago that it won't be happening for us. We are now going to Vancouver, and I am even more excited about Van than Calgary!
There are lots of options in other provinces ladies, and it may only be temporary and then you can get to Alberta when jobs open up again!
Good luck to all applying!
We have been saying since September 'oh it will change by the time we get there' but it became clear a month ago that it won't be happening for us. We are now going to Vancouver, and I am even more excited about Van than Calgary!
There are lots of options in other provinces ladies, and it may only be temporary and then you can get to Alberta when jobs open up again!
Good luck to all applying!
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I am a Canadian nurse currently in the UK with my husband. For the past 3 years we had been planning on moving to Calgary (we met in Banff 4 years ago) and now that our move is looming this summer, we are gutted that we won't be able to go! There are no jobs in Calgary at all, the external candidate jobs are pretty much all in remote areas and are casual/part-time.
We have been saying since September 'oh it will change by the time we get there' but it became clear a month ago that it won't be happening for us. We are now going to Vancouver, and I am even more excited about Van than Calgary!
There are lots of options in other provinces ladies, and it may only be temporary and then you can get to Alberta when jobs open up again!
Good luck to all applying!
We have been saying since September 'oh it will change by the time we get there' but it became clear a month ago that it won't be happening for us. We are now going to Vancouver, and I am even more excited about Van than Calgary!
There are lots of options in other provinces ladies, and it may only be temporary and then you can get to Alberta when jobs open up again!
Good luck to all applying!
As for other provinces Ontario's health care is suffering too. Job freezes, nurses being laid off. The Ontario govt has banned pay rises for non union hospital employees for 3 years.
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Yes I do realize that as I am originally from Ontario and all my friends still work in Ontario and one just found out she is being laid off, but there are many more provinces and territories than Alberta and Ontario (8 provinces minus AB and ON and 3 territories)! We are feeling the pinch here in the UK as well, some days we have 8 gaps on my ward alone, yet no new jobs are being advertised. It is expected to be covered by our own staff working extra shifts and bank staff.
All I am trying to say is there are loads of jobs available in other provinces than Alberta, you just have to be flexible and may need to temporarily move to another province until Alberta opens up positions again.
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I wasn't trying to be sexist, there are obviously male nurses applying. I work with loads of them and did in Canada as well. I don't understand why people have to be so picky on these forums????
Yes I do realize that as I am originally from Ontario and all my friends still work in Ontario and one just found out she is being laid off, but there are many more provinces and territories than Alberta and Ontario (8 provinces minus AB and ON and 3 territories)! We are feeling the pinch here in the UK as well, some days we have 8 gaps on my ward alone, yet no new jobs are being advertised. It is expected to be covered by our own staff working extra shifts and bank staff.
All I am trying to say is there are loads of jobs available in other provinces than Alberta, you just have to be flexible and may need to temporarily move to another province until Alberta opens up positions again.
Yes I do realize that as I am originally from Ontario and all my friends still work in Ontario and one just found out she is being laid off, but there are many more provinces and territories than Alberta and Ontario (8 provinces minus AB and ON and 3 territories)! We are feeling the pinch here in the UK as well, some days we have 8 gaps on my ward alone, yet no new jobs are being advertised. It is expected to be covered by our own staff working extra shifts and bank staff.
All I am trying to say is there are loads of jobs available in other provinces than Alberta, you just have to be flexible and may need to temporarily move to another province until Alberta opens up positions again.
As for moving to once province and then on to another? People have done it I know but considering the stress and $$$ involved in moving homes I doubt that many would do it out of choice. Might be fun if you were single and living in rented accommodation but the costs of buying and selling houses, furniture removals, uprooting kids, your spouse finding another job, making new friends etc.- doing all that twice??
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I am a Uk nurse who has recently moved to Calgary. CARNA have been most unhelpful and have discouraged me from getting registered here. Reading between the lines.. my 12 years experience would provide them with a lot of work to do all the checks and getting my training verified. They have said that I can of course apply but will not be looked at until at least 2011.. as they are only processing new grads!
I am of course pleased that new grads will at last get their job, but why dont they think ahead and see that they will need experienced nurses too!
Anyhow.. like others have said.. I am going to have to retrain or find another job.. or move elsewhere in Canada.
Or back to the UK
Anyone thinking of coming to Calgary at the moment without jobs... A SERIOUS WARNING... There are jobs, but you will have to take a serious pay drop in order to survive and get known. Im talking from experience here which is why I can only comment on Calgary. Hubby has a job, which we are thankful for but it doesnt cover our outgoings.. so our standard of living is much diminished... but we live somewhere that is lovely.. so thats the trade off!!
If I could work as a nurse we would be ok!
Please noone bite my head off.. its my opinion and definately a reality here!!
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I am of course pleased that new grads will at last get their job, but why dont they think ahead and see that they will need experienced nurses too!
Anyhow.. like others have said.. I am going to have to retrain or find another job.. or move elsewhere in Canada.
Or back to the UK
Anyone thinking of coming to Calgary at the moment without jobs... A SERIOUS WARNING... There are jobs, but you will have to take a serious pay drop in order to survive and get known. Im talking from experience here which is why I can only comment on Calgary. Hubby has a job, which we are thankful for but it doesnt cover our outgoings.. so our standard of living is much diminished... but we live somewhere that is lovely.. so thats the trade off!!
If I could work as a nurse we would be ok!
Please noone bite my head off.. its my opinion and definately a reality here!!
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NO biting here.
Have people considered the territories? Nunavut, Yukon, etc.
Have people considered the territories? Nunavut, Yukon, etc.
#28
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Yup AHS has completely messed up & this dreadful experiment of having one huge super board here has backfired big time & cost shed loads of unaffordable dollars &, as usual, the citizens & front line workers are copping the flack & bearing the brunt while the politicians & board members give themselves good pensions & great pay rises!
It will go full circle at some point I'm sure - especially with Gulf oil leak leading the Americans back to those oilsands (hehehe.) However, how long that will be I don't know!
It will go full circle at some point I'm sure - especially with Gulf oil leak leading the Americans back to those oilsands (hehehe.) However, how long that will be I don't know!
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On yer bike!
I set up my own counselling practice and have not nursed since.
You have my sympathies trying to deal with that kind of mindset.
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