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ExKiwilass Dec 29th 2009 1:05 pm

Re: It's been a few months...
 

Originally Posted by ann m (Post 8204303)
I would echo this sentiment - I have just started a job at a location where I temped.

And I was told several times to try this route over the past year or so, but timing for me at home with kids was never quite right. But once I got that foot in the door, actually getting a job was, dare I say it, quite easy !

Very good luck.

I agree with this.

After years at home looking after kid and doing non-adminny things like writing, I wasn't getting any response to my resumes. Surprise, surprise. I signed up with an agency (thanks Adele!) and got an assignment in 3 days, which was almost certainly just because of good timing. It's going really well so far and I've had someone from another firm, that works with ours, ask for my resume. :fingerscrossed: Temping really is the best way to get the foot in the door here, there's no way I would have met the people I've met without it as it's a completely different industry to the one OH is in.

Deva Dec 30th 2009 6:18 am

Re: It's been a few months...
 

Originally Posted by Grendel (Post 8201143)
Our only real (major) hurdle is finding jobs - I'm a writer/editor/designer, my better half is in administration/office work. We've taken lots of advice on producing top-notch resumes, applied for 20+ positions in the last few months, told practically everybody we meet that we're looking for work, and basically done all we can to find something.

And so far: one employer that put me through five (!) interviews, a questionnaire, writing a 16-page essay and other work only to tell me I wasn't experienced enough compared to the other candidate left from 1,000 who applied, and another interview that just didn't work out. My wife has had some temp work, but other than that, nothing.

Yes, we know bilingualism is key to many Ottawa jobs (particularly in her line of work), but given the difficulty and probable expense of learning Quebec French, rather than schoolbook French, we are focusing our efforts outside the city if at all possible.

Our savings have tided us over so far, but if worst comes to worse we'll have to move somewhere that we could find work - Toronto would be best for my work, but we didn't like the city much when we went on a research trip a few years ago. We love where we are, and don't want to go unless we really have to.

We're absolutely 100% determined not to return to the UK - we already consider ourselves proud Canadians, and will do anything we can to succeed here. It took us four years to get visas, and we WILL make this work.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. We think we're doing all the networking, etc, we can, and we're open to practically any computer-based work, rather than sticking to our chosen careers. But does anybody have any tips on how expats can get that first opportunity? We're exhausted from sending out what everybody (jobcentres, temp agencies) says are good resumes into a great black hole.

I wouldn't give up on sending out resumes but perhaps you could focus on smaller companies where the owner/CEO is more likely to be personally reviewing the applicants. They are more likely to see the potential for someone with a "different" career history than some drone in HR. I applied for 50-60 jobs and only landed interviews where this was the procedure. Like you my background is not best suited to the Ottawa market.

Networking also resulted in some interviews for me. Have you had a look at Meetup.com for networking opportunities? There may be some groups that fit your career background or your personal interests.

http://www.meetup.com/

TrishP Dec 31st 2009 1:41 am

Re: It's been a few months...
 

Originally Posted by Grendel (Post 8201143)
I've been away from BE while we've been settling into life as new Canadians, and just want to update our situation.

My wife and I landed in July and since then we've bought a house just west of Carleton Place, about an hour outside Ottawa, and begun settling into the community. My wife's joined the local brass band, we're looking at other organisations to join or other ways of making friends, and we're loving life as new Canadians.

All the positive things about life in Canada that we imagined/researched have proved to be true: the people are friendly, the scenery is terrific, the weather is, erm, varied, and there is simply a more positive feeling to the country than we generally found back home (South Wales).

Our only real (major) hurdle is finding jobs - I'm a writer/editor/designer, my better half is in administration/office work. We've taken lots of advice on producing top-notch resumes, applied for 20+ positions in the last few months, told practically everybody we meet that we're looking for work, and basically done all we can to find something.

And so far: one employer that put me through five (!) interviews, a questionnaire, writing a 16-page essay and other work only to tell me I wasn't experienced enough compared to the other candidate left from 1,000 who applied, and another interview that just didn't work out. My wife has had some temp work, but other than that, nothing.

Yes, we know bilingualism is key to many Ottawa jobs (particularly in her line of work), but given the difficulty and probable expense of learning Quebec French, rather than schoolbook French, we are focusing our efforts outside the city if at all possible.

Our savings have tided us over so far, but if worst comes to worse we'll have to move somewhere that we could find work - Toronto would be best for my work, but we didn't like the city much when we went on a research trip a few years ago. We love where we are, and don't want to go unless we really have to.

We're absolutely 100% determined not to return to the UK - we already consider ourselves proud Canadians, and will do anything we can to succeed here. It took us four years to get visas, and we WILL make this work.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. We think we're doing all the networking, etc, we can, and we're open to practically any computer-based work, rather than sticking to our chosen careers. But does anybody have any tips on how expats can get that first opportunity? We're exhausted from sending out what everybody (jobcentres, temp agencies) says are good resumes into a great black hole.

Hi Grendel
Firstly, let me welcome you guys to the Ottawa Valley. Carleton Place is nice and is very much an up and coming area - house prices will likely rocket up there once the new highway is finished! Yes, the weather here is incredibly varied - just arrived back last night to Ottawa to a lovely thick layer of ice on the car leftover from the freezing rain last week!

Unfortunately you are right in that bilingualism will most definitely be the key to your wife finding work in admin - I'm needing an admin assistant at the moment, but it is bilingual essential.
However, this week is an excellent time to sign up for free (for immigrants) French classes through the French Catholic School Board on St Laurent in Ottawa, you will only have to pay the $25 registration fee for the term.

I'm hoping to organise a wee get together for those of us in Ottawa sometime over the next few weeks, so it may be a good chance to network a bit.However, in the meantime, I've PM-ed you my number if you need a hand with anything.

Trish

brizzle Dec 31st 2009 7:14 am

Re: It's been a few months...
 

Originally Posted by Grendel (Post 8201143)
I've been away from BE while we've been settling into life as new Canadians, and just want to update our situation.

My wife and I landed in July and since then we've bought a house just west of Carleton Place, about an hour outside Ottawa, and begun settling into the community. My wife's joined the local brass band, we're looking at other organisations to join or other ways of making friends, and we're loving life as new Canadians.

All the positive things about life in Canada that we imagined/researched have proved to be true: the people are friendly, the scenery is terrific, the weather is, erm, varied, and there is simply a more positive feeling to the country than we generally found back home (South Wales).

Our only real (major) hurdle is finding jobs - I'm a writer/editor/designer, my better half is in administration/office work. We've taken lots of advice on producing top-notch resumes, applied for 20+ positions in the last few months, told practically everybody we meet that we're looking for work, and basically done all we can to find something.

And so far: one employer that put me through five (!) interviews, a questionnaire, writing a 16-page essay and other work only to tell me I wasn't experienced enough compared to the other candidate left from 1,000 who applied, and another interview that just didn't work out. My wife has had some temp work, but other than that, nothing.

Yes, we know bilingualism is key to many Ottawa jobs (particularly in her line of work), but given the difficulty and probable expense of learning Quebec French, rather than schoolbook French, we are focusing our efforts outside the city if at all possible.

Our savings have tided us over so far, but if worst comes to worse we'll have to move somewhere that we could find work - Toronto would be best for my work, but we didn't like the city much when we went on a research trip a few years ago. We love where we are, and don't want to go unless we really have to.

We're absolutely 100% determined not to return to the UK - we already consider ourselves proud Canadians, and will do anything we can to succeed here. It took us four years to get visas, and we WILL make this work.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. We think we're doing all the networking, etc, we can, and we're open to practically any computer-based work, rather than sticking to our chosen careers. But does anybody have any tips on how expats can get that first opportunity? We're exhausted from sending out what everybody (jobcentres, temp agencies) says are good resumes into a great black hole.

Good luck !! The Canadian job market is a tough nut to crack, but you seem to be doing all the right things. Stick with it :thumbup:

I'm stuck in a job, I don't like, but at least I have one. Unfortunately, I fear that we'll see more posts like this from Newbies next year. If I was a family emigrating here next year, I'd send the main breadwinner out first to gain employment, before uprooting and selling everything.

dboy Dec 31st 2009 9:22 am

Re: It's been a few months...
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8204329)
And don't count your chickens before they roost.
Remember you are one in a million.
If you can make here, you can make it anywhere.
It takes 20 muscles to frown but only one to smile.
Today, expect the best.
Love the world and the world will love you.
There's always someone who thinks you're awesome.

Hope these help.

and...... at least you've got you health.... that's my old man's answer for everything.

dboy Dec 31st 2009 9:27 am

Re: It's been a few months...
 

Originally Posted by trouncer (Post 8204349)
Just wanted to add to Grendel and Paul_Shepherds comments that there experience and outlook is EXACTLY what we're experiencing too. We've been here almost 3 months and after applying for approx. 40 jobs so far, and tried to network too but not a single result except a speculative interview with someone about a job (not even in my field of work) who hasn't been back to me. The rest have been meetings with recruitment agencies who 'big' you up then never get in touch with anything solid (I'm in IT btw). Application feedback is non-existent (but that's been discussed in other threads already).

I agree so much with Paul's attitude that it's 'timing' and that any other time our efforts would have produced at least more than we've had so far. If we can manage to last out a full year financially, but find we are no further in jobs, then, like Paul, I think we need to assess our situation, but I don't really want to go back to the UK having worked so hard to get here (over 3 years to get the PR's). We also sold the house in autumn (after over a year of no offers) in a bad market having reduced it drastically, and to make things worse the exchange rates are crap which made our money go even less. But all this is has been out of our control and it's just bad timing ! But we got to keep going.

I'm hoping to do some Vanoc work which is about 2 months worth of work. It's cheap labour but it will help finances stretch a little further and hopefully buy us more time, give us some 'Canadian experience' and perhaps an opportunity to network ? (BTW, I think they're still looking for paid help for the Vanoc for those interested. PM me if you want to know where I went to enquire).

We want to see and do so much more in Canada but held back by the strains of our financial limitations so we can't experience the full potential of Vancouver as we'd like. As you say, fingers crossed that we have hit the lowest point (which seems to be taking ages to get through !) and that it WILL get better in the new year. :fingerscrossed:

Did you consider the casino industry? It may tide you over till things improve and give you some breathing space it. Iin my previous lfe I managed a casino in Vancouver. Pay is not bad and they train you. As long as you can be flexible with work hours (plus working evenings would give you the day to look around for other work), it might be worth a shot.

main companies here are Great Canadian and Gateway there is also a casino at the plaza of nations.

PM me if you have any questions. Good luck

http://www.greatcanadiancasinos.com/careers/

http://gatewaycasinos.com/careers.html


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