Indian immigrants soon to outnumber Chinese
#31
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Re: Indian immigrants soon to outnumber Chinese
Originally Posted by AnnetteM
And were treated very badly by Canada, yet they were happy to integrate, as were as all the other nationals that came to Canada, looking for a better life and wanting to become "Canadian" - as opposed to coming here for a better life and insisting that Canada adapt to their ways, culture, language and refusing to communicate in either of the official languages. Rather than sharing their culture and wanting to learn about others.
My goodness, we need some lightening up on here, and evidently few people understand the meaning of "ironic". I make no apologies for my posting, and I certainly do not consider myself a "disgrace". I've loved this country and contributed to it fully and wholeheartedly.
My goodness, we need some lightening up on here, and evidently few people understand the meaning of "ironic". I make no apologies for my posting, and I certainly do not consider myself a "disgrace". I've loved this country and contributed to it fully and wholeheartedly.
If communication is the issue (which I doubt) why dont you learn Cantonese or another Chinese dialect and share your culture with them?
The variety of "culture" from Asia out there is vast, thats if you are bothered to access it.
I'd be interested where you were from in UK that you were driven out by hoards of non-English speaking foreigners in 1975? I suspect you are talking about West Indians who incidently for the most part speak English.
Face it, you are just a plain and simple old school racist who is looking for some white, English speaking haven.
There are plenty of Rednecks of similar disposition in the Valley so good luck.
Maybe you need to head further East down the Valley.
#32
Re: Indian immigrants soon to outnumber Chinese
Originally Posted by ray1968
Learning a language does not come overnight and many people want to converse with others in their native tongues, not a big deal.
I agree. The polish side of my family didnt know english when they moved here. In fact my grandparents didnt learn english until my dad and his brother started school and learned english and then taught them. They were far more comfortable speaking polish and living in a polish community. In fact until my grandparents died my dad would speak a combo of english/polish to them on the phone and in person.
#33
Re: Indian immigrants soon to outnumber Chinese
Originally Posted by willmore
I agree. The polish side of my family didnt know english when they moved here.
#34
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Re: Indian immigrants soon to outnumber Chinese
Originally Posted by ray1968
Ok you may not agree with her but lets keep out the personal attack and argue the message...please or mr lock will be forced to intervene
I find it quite remarkable that racists are not shut down on this forum.
Time and time again, I have seen racist posts.
It is very offensive.
#35
Re: Indian immigrants soon to outnumber Chinese
Originally Posted by AnnetteM
Ironic. Exactly why I left the UK in '75 - and now I live in an area where we are officially the "minority" - Vancouver, otherwise known as Hongcouver! The face of Vancouver is now stastically Chinese, female, under-25. Ride the transit system here and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who speaks English. Serves me right, I guess!
#36
Re: Indian immigrants soon to outnumber Chinese
Have you ever reported a racist post? Or do you leave it to others to do?
Originally Posted by London7
I find it quite remarkable that racists are not shut down on this forum.
Time and time again, I have seen racist posts.
It is very offensive.
Time and time again, I have seen racist posts.
It is very offensive.
#37
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Re: Indian immigrants soon to outnumber Chinese
Originally Posted by AnnetteM
as opposed to coming here for a better life and insisting that Canada adapt to their ways, culture, language and refusing to communicate in either of the official languages. .
Or does it just bother you that you can't eavestrough on their convos on the train? I'm hard of hearing and I can't, even in English-speaking countries.... bugs the crap out of me.
#38
Re: Indian immigrants soon to outnumber Chinese
Originally Posted by ray1968
Ok you may not agree with her but lets keep out the personal attack and argue the message...please or mr lock will be forced to intervene
One does wonder if she speaks anything but English.
#39
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Re: Indian immigrants soon to outnumber Chinese
Originally Posted by London7
I dont blame certain races for keeping to their own, with attitudes like yours.
Think you need to head south and look for large white pointy hats.
Think you need to head south and look for large white pointy hats.
#40
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Re: Indian immigrants soon to outnumber Chinese
Originally Posted by NewWorldMan
And this is why we will never have a sensible rational debate about immigration. It is no longer possible to suggest that immigrants (I'm 2nd-gen Polish, BTW) should try their utmost to integrate into their new country without being accused of some heinous crime.
K.
#41
Re: Indian immigrants soon to outnumber Chinese
Originally Posted by London7
I find it quite remarkable that racists are not shut down on this forum.
Time and time again, I have seen racist posts.
It is very offensive.
Time and time again, I have seen racist posts.
It is very offensive.
#42
Joined: Apr 2005
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Re: Indian immigrants soon to outnumber Chinese
Originally Posted by kt0157
On the contrary. I think we're just reaching this tipping point in the UK. If New Labour ministers, the high priests of political correctness, feel they can say these things, then you can be sure that the sociological philosophy dominant since the 1970s is about to go into the dustbin.
K.
K.
#43
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Re: Indian immigrants soon to outnumber Chinese
http://www.pch.gc.ca/progs/multi/inclusive_e.cfm
For those that are interested.
as a Canadian it is something I knew, they teach it in school.
For those that are interested.
as a Canadian it is something I knew, they teach it in school.
Last edited by MrsWillow; Oct 20th 2006 at 1:41 pm.
#44
Re: Indian immigrants soon to outnumber Chinese
Originally Posted by MrsWillow
http://www.pch.gc.ca/progs/multi/inclusive_e.cfm
For those that are interested.
as a Canadian it is something I knew, they teach it in school.
For those that are interested.
as a Canadian it is something I knew, they teach it in school.
#45
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Re: Indian immigrants soon to outnumber Chinese
Originally Posted by dbd33
There certainly are racist posts but I don't think anything on this thread is particularly so. Even if we read AnnetteM's original post unironically it can be interpreted as a lament for the lack of a common language rather than simple hate for people of a specific background. At the risk of being racist myself I'd say Indian immigrants might be more desirable than Chinese ones because they come from a place where English is used as a common second language; they're more likely to be used to falling back on speaking a form of English than immigrants from China. They also drive better.
No it's not a lament for a common language. I've been accused of racism and bigotry, and if that's the way my posting is perceived, so be it. It's far from who I am but you're going to believe what you choose to. My lament is more for the smothering of any other culture (and I embrace multiculturalsm, by the way) by one race while not contributing anything meaningful. And yes, I do mean the Chinese in my area. While there are exceptions, this is the general trend. To emigrate is also to integrate, not be exclusive and refuse to communicate with anyone outside of your race. My opinion is based on my own experience both personal and through my work. The original posting pointed out the increase in Indian immigrants, the decrease in Chinese, and I think that's a positive thing. But so far I've been accused of being anti-any other race than white English-speaking, and told where I should go to live. And that's not bigotry??