Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9183280)

I said nothing about meth. The consumption of crystal meth is no more a desirable trait in an immigrant than is autism. Both will cost the country money. Habits that contribute to tax revenues are however highly desirable characteristics.

Originally Posted by mancunian.com (Post 9182220)

Perhaps when you return, Britain will be seen through fresh eyes. You may reconsider your views on the shortcomings of Canada. I remember reading the stats of returning 10 pound migrants from Australia in the sixties. When they arrived home and compared what they had in Aussie with their "new vision" of Britain 80% wanted to return to Aussie.

I have not read of your historical dissapointments and they are possibly justified. But ones memory of "great" Britain is a little sentimental. I understand you have an autistic son like us. That is a massive problem anywhere and can depend where he is on the spectrum As for teachers not knowing about Aspergers etc! I am a retired teacher from England and my 5th son, eight years old now, (third marriage) is autistic. I had heard vaguely about autism and never heard about Aspergers -just like your Canadian teacher. If you had your child at the grammar school where I taught I would similarly have seemed dim. So why give that as acharacteristic of Canadian teachers. What did you know about ASD before your son was diagnosed?

I think I can say that if one feels homesick one sees things differently. I migrated to NZ and Aussie and returned to the UK. 30 years ago I came back to the sunshine and had a changed attitude.

I constantly am amazed at the way England has stuck to the class system.The two leaders of the coalition born with silver spoons and have private, elite educations. Here in Aussie our Prime Ministere was born in the Welsh valleys and migrated here with her coal miner dad. Worked hard at school and became a lawyer. Joined the Labour party and worked her way up the political ladder. I attended Cameron's university so I'm not talking envy.

I am eighty, married with three young kids. We live in a modern house on our 50 acre property, have all the consumer toys and have a duplex in the city. All owned! We have 2 near-new cars. And yet I qualify for a full age pension and can afford holidays abroad. If I lived in England I would be in poverty street. The UK wealth is concentrated in the hands of the few. It used to be that 10% owned 90% and I doubt that has changed much. I love most people in the UK - even the aristos who, personally, are usually very nice. But the system, contrary to some popular belief, is stuck in pomposity, titles, ceremony and mostly covert class consciousness.

Maybe that will be more obvious when you return. If you go to Surrey I can introduce you to a friend with a school dedicated to ASD. She has an autistic son too. When she discovered that the local education system was inadequate she formed a group to better things. Could not you have done this in Canada?

Mancunian.

Originally Posted by zRichi (Post 9183276)

I hope, god forbid, you or someone you love isn't struck with a perceived flaw that is the uglier side of social darwinism. It would probably give you some perspective though.
Then some mean-spirited, spurious person on the internet can then liken you/your loved one to a chain smoking meth head.

Originally Posted by zRichi (Post 9183299)

Great :)
You're education in the humanities is excellent. Why not put them in big chambers filled with cyanide gas, their weight on the tax revenues is far too much.

I won't bother to point out the jobs that are created because of autism, which are funded by taxes, which then get spent back into the economy as doctors/nurses get the money and spend it on cars, books etc. ...but then why would i? You obviously failed your education in the Humanities, why would you pass economics?

I shan't discuss anything further with you however. I just clicked on your profile and read all your latest posts and it reads like a bitter Victor Mildrews valley of where dreams go to die. Good luck with that :thumbsup:

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9183214)

I don't see why. Countries generally pick and choose immigrants based on their potential benefit to the country. The presence of an autistic person cannot be of benefit and will be a financial drain. Even in Canada, where support for people with autism in minimal, the drain on the public purse will still be in the order of $1,000 a month for the duration of that person's life. It'd be better to choose chain smoking alcoholics as immigrants.

Originally Posted by brizzle (Post 9183303)

When was the last time you lived in the UK? 1950's ? A lot has changed since then. Do you not think that 10% of the people own 90% of the wealth in North America too?

BTW, are you really eighty and have 3 young kids :ohmy:

Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 9183311)

It worked then - now just to see how long before the ace comes out

Originally Posted by brizzle (Post 9183319)

Lovely comment. Generally, the principal immigrant is the one granted residency based on their potential benefit to the country, but having the right to bring your family with you is a more fundamental human right.

If Canada is so damn picky, the why do they have one of the highest rates of immigration in the western world. Why are they one of the few countries that allow the wholesale immigration of the wider family unit (i.e. grandparents). Your telling me that the immigration of ten's of thousands of eldferly parents of immigrants isn't a drain on healthcare??

Originally Posted by zRichi (Post 9183351)

Sorry to disappoint but last one of the night: off to gym, reggae restaurant then a nightclub. Real life calling and all that.

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 9183377)

Are they changing that now?? I read something recently but can't remember the details apart from a quote about getting a coffin sooner than PR.

Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 9183383)

I wish I were that narcassistic that I needed to tell people i'm off to a reggae club AND a nightclub <sighs whistfully>. some people are sooo lucky

Originally Posted by brizzle (Post 9183319)

Lovely comment. Generally, the principal immigrant is the one granted residency based on their potential benefit to the country, but having the right to bring your family with you is a more fundamental human right.

Originally Posted by brizzle (Post 9183319)

If Canada is so damn picky, the why do they have one of the highest rates of immigration in the western world. Why are they one of the few countries that allow the wholesale immigration of the wider family unit (i.e. grandparents). Your telling me that the immigration of ten's of thousands of eldferly parents of immigrants isn't a drain on healthcare??

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9183423)

Damn, wandered off, missed my chance.

I was at the spa, doncha know, being manicured while listening to something agonisingly fashionable.

Originally Posted by eyeoftheocean (Post 9183287)

If I were you before you leave , I would go to the papers ! make a right stink before you leave, 4 family members who have become vicitims of CIC's ignorance towards Autism makes me so angry ...Im sure the media will be interested in your story !

Yet its OK to keep an immigrant in prison for many years who has committed serious crimes ..who draws the line here as to where the tax payers money would be better spent ...ok I have to sign off Im getting angry .xx

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 9183441)

Yodelling groundhogs perhaps?