Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 9775651)

Charming. I'd suggest you read the Moving Back to the UK forum to see why people get stuck and are genuinely unable to move back from whichever country they are in, despite desperately wanting to in many cases.

It's not always as easy as you seem to think it is. Many have adult children/grandchildren and are torn between wanting to return to the UK and not wanting to leave them behind, many spent their life savings on moving to whichever country they are living in and now cannot afford the tens of thousands of moving back, many are married to a Canadian (or Australian, or American, or.......etc) and their spouse would be equally unhappy in the UK, so they just deal with it as best they can knowing that the only other option is divorce.

If you really think it's as easy as you make out, then your lack of empathy astounds me.

Originally Posted by MarylandNed (Post 9775965)

Right but many don't "deal with it as best they can". We have people here who have already admitted to being "bored" yet they don't want to get up and do anything about it. When I gave suggestions for things that people could do to aleviate boredom (e.g. take up a sport, hobby, other activity; further their education; volunteer in their community; etc) I was attacked and insulted. You, of course, said absolutely nothing yet you jumped all over me recently for something much less. Seems to me you only pipe up to enforce etiquette on people you don't agree with while others can say what they like. Isn't that the definition of a hypocrite? And if you have a problem with me saying that, why didn't you have a problem with Alan using that same word to describe someone else on this very thread?

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 9775726)

I just tire of the attitude of what are you going to do for me. Sure I realise that people have had some tough breaks in life not all of their doing etc.
Some people need to accept that there are responsibilities in being a citizen of the world and that they face consequences and need to accept this.
I have more respect for a criminal who owns up to their crimes rather than the person who lies about it or tries to blame others and its not their fault etc.

Originally Posted by Tangram (Post 9776155)

Take it to PM. See site rule 15.

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9776202)

I assume that christmas was posting her opinion there rather than moderating.

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9776185)

I've met more people in Canada than anywhere else that scam 'the system' by working a bit in the summer then claiming EI while going off surfing, fishing and the like. All are perfectly fit and healthy but have this attitude that what they're doing this is their right. Plus, countless people claiming disability, while working manual labour. Its astounding that their attitude is absolutely blazon that they have the right to do this and see nothing wrong in it. In the UK these cheats would go to prison, but here it seems totally acceptable.

Originally Posted by Keelif (Post 9776230)

We have the same problem here with people claiming disability and being perfectly healthy. :frown:

Originally Posted by Keelif (Post 9776230)

You would be very unlucky to go prison in the UK for it either. If you are caught then it seems to a fine or a suspended sentence. We have the same problem here with people claiming disability and being perfectly healthy. :frown:

Our prisons are practically full at the moment, which is why there have been a lot of early releases :thumbdown: Apparantly they are saving space for the rioters though...who knows :unsure:

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9776245)

There isn't the tradition of seasonal industries though. When fishing and forestry were the major employers it made a kind of sense to work in the summer and claim benefits in the winter. When the fish were caught and the trees cut down people switched to working away for a few weeks to qualify for benefits and not working the rest of the year. I think it's a viable way to run a society so long as there are lots of immigrants to pay taxes and keep it going; being born a Newfie provides a birthright though not such a good one as being born a native of Lichenstein.

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9776264)

There's one person who claims disability but works and get his pay-check paid to his girlfriend and then he goes off and plays ice hockey which he's extremely proud of. It just seem to be a pervasive attitude over here that they can get something for nothing. Their friends and colleagues also don't see anything wrong with it. I'd say something but I don't want to be accused of being an interfering and moaning foreigner, although it is my taxes that contribute to this wanton benefit fraud. :frown:

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9776264)

There's one person who claims disability but works and get his pay-check paid to his girlfriend and then he goes off and plays ice hockey which he's extremely proud of. It just seem to be a pervasive attitude over here that they can get something for nothing. Their friends and colleagues also don't see anything wrong with it. I'd say something but I don't want to be accused of being an interfering and moaning foreigner, although it is my taxes that contribute to this wanton benefit fraud. :frown:

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9776273)

Thank you for clearing that up a bit. That's why they or anyone else seem to have no shame about it. It's a tradition of cheating that's hard-wired into their cultural DNA.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9776245)

...being born a Newfie provides a birthright though not such a good one as being born a native of Lichenstein.

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9776362)

I've only met one newfie. He seems to not fit this stereotype at all and has a very successful career begging for drug money outside the Vancouver convention centre. You see, you can make generalizations like this, but not everyone from there wants a life of relying on state handouts.

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 9775857)

Ive been here since March 1988 and yes Im older and crankier :lol:

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 9775857)

Ive been here since March 1988 and yes Im older and crankier :lol: