If you could do it all over again....
Dec 7th 2011, 1:23 am
#76
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Re: If you could do it all over again....
I quite like where I live. But I have to say it's despite the local culture (such that it is), not because of it. Anyway, I counted up how many cradles I know - I think it's 2, or maybe 3.
Dec 7th 2011, 1:35 am
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Re: If you could do it all over again....
In my Research Centre among the faculty there is one Canadian (whose parents are Scottish), a NZ guy, a German, one from Northern Ireland, a Yank and myself.
Very few (perhaps 5%) of the students I teach have names which sound even vaguely Anglo or French.
Universities are better than the wilderness as a place to hide from Canadians.
Dec 7th 2011, 2:52 am
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Re: If you could do it all over again....
There is a lot to be said for this. I don't think very many cradles (or any other nationalities for that matter) are big on incessant whining and complaining over often mundane and irrelevant things. This is part of a culture and you can see a pattern emerge even from a website. Not from everyone, but certainly not a few either. In another thread about what some posters have observed from a recent visit to the UK, "miserable people" was brought up by more than one poster. If you fall into this category then you likely will not enjoy this continent, or perhaps anywhere. If you have a go getter and a can do attitude, you will likely enjoy life on this continent and most other places. In short, if there is something wrong with everything where you are now, there will be something wrong with everything where ever you end up moving to. The only place a perfect world exists is between your ears.
Dec 7th 2011, 6:44 am
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Re: If you could do it all over again....
Hi Guys!!
Hope you are all ready for Christmas and are looking forward to it
It seems that a lot of people suggest to us newcomers that we should move elsewhere in the UK instead of Canada.
Just wondering if you could do it all over again after knowing what you do now, would you have still moved to Canada or somewhere else in the UK?
Hope you all have a great Christmas!!
Hope you are all ready for Christmas and are looking forward to it
It seems that a lot of people suggest to us newcomers that we should move elsewhere in the UK instead of Canada.
Just wondering if you could do it all over again after knowing what you do now, would you have still moved to Canada or somewhere else in the UK?
Hope you all have a great Christmas!!
T
Dec 7th 2011, 9:06 am
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Re: If you could do it all over again....
I find that a very difficult question, mainly because the move has been much better for my husband than for me.
Neither of us like living in Alberta, but he enjoys his job, and since he is a Canadian, he's enjoyed having more contact with his family in BC and Ottawa than he had from the UK. I've spent most of the last five years being bored, homesick, and sometimes a bit frightened.
However, I also recognise there have been some advantages in being here. We've had better health care than we had in the UK, although that seems to have been due to chance. I've also enjoyed the library system in Alberta. I've made friends and being here has widened my horizons a little.
Most importantly, we will enjoy a better retirement in the UK as a result of spending a few years here, because we will be financially better off. But meanwhile 8 years of my life has gone by, and when we return, we will have to set up a new home yet again, and re-forge relationships in our community.
Neither of us like living in Alberta, but he enjoys his job, and since he is a Canadian, he's enjoyed having more contact with his family in BC and Ottawa than he had from the UK. I've spent most of the last five years being bored, homesick, and sometimes a bit frightened.
However, I also recognise there have been some advantages in being here. We've had better health care than we had in the UK, although that seems to have been due to chance. I've also enjoyed the library system in Alberta. I've made friends and being here has widened my horizons a little.
Most importantly, we will enjoy a better retirement in the UK as a result of spending a few years here, because we will be financially better off. But meanwhile 8 years of my life has gone by, and when we return, we will have to set up a new home yet again, and re-forge relationships in our community.
Where do you think you will return to in the UK when you retire? Hopefully the remaining time will go quickly for you
Dec 7th 2011, 9:08 am
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Dec 7th 2011, 10:00 am
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Re: If you could do it all over again....
No I wouldn't do it again knowing what I know now
despite wanting something different , having good. Jobs a lovely house and good friends here I'd stay home
despite wanting something different , having good. Jobs a lovely house and good friends here I'd stay home
Dec 7th 2011, 10:51 am
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Re: If you could do it all over again....
Dec 7th 2011, 12:53 pm
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Re: If you could do it all over again....
I don't think you're listening. I'm not bored with what I do, or with my friends, with my family, or with my house.
I'm bored with Canada (and North America in general). It's just bloody boring. How do you suggest I fix it? I tried voting and a bit of activism here and there, but it's like screaming in a gagged straight jacket.
I'm bored with Canada (and North America in general). It's just bloody boring. How do you suggest I fix it? I tried voting and a bit of activism here and there, but it's like screaming in a gagged straight jacket.
Agreed!
Dec 7th 2011, 12:53 pm
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Re: If you could do it all over again....
YES, I would do it over... my family in UK are always saying never come back.... its a better standard of living here, a beautiful place. Dont get me wrong you will get home sick but that decreases as time goes on.. Obviously it depends on your reasons for moving, but personally I am glad my children are being raised here
T
T
Dec 7th 2011, 1:37 pm
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Re: If you could do it all over again....
The voice emanating from my tin foil hat and the light sockets is telling to post the following
For those who like it here in Canada well carry on and make the best of it.
For those of you who are undecided then you might need a bit more time before choosing the above suggestion or the below
For those of you that dislike or hate it here there are several well equipped International airports here in Canada that fly daily to the UK.
Dont give us that crap about I cant afford to move back, but my kids are in school, Ive no job to go back to etc etc
What made you move away from the UK in the 1st place if its so much better to begin with?
The vast majority of you applied to come here Canada didnt ask you to come.
If Ive offended anyone well tough luck its not all about YOU.
If Canada is that bad then DO something about it or go home.
I am sick of the well its my right, Im entitled, the Govt owes me type of attitutude from this generation in all countries. Exactly what does the Govt owe you or what are you entitled to?
Anyway rant over we will now resume normal programming
For those who like it here in Canada well carry on and make the best of it.
For those of you who are undecided then you might need a bit more time before choosing the above suggestion or the below
For those of you that dislike or hate it here there are several well equipped International airports here in Canada that fly daily to the UK.
Dont give us that crap about I cant afford to move back, but my kids are in school, Ive no job to go back to etc etc
What made you move away from the UK in the 1st place if its so much better to begin with?
The vast majority of you applied to come here Canada didnt ask you to come.
If Ive offended anyone well tough luck its not all about YOU.
If Canada is that bad then DO something about it or go home.
I am sick of the well its my right, Im entitled, the Govt owes me type of attitutude from this generation in all countries. Exactly what does the Govt owe you or what are you entitled to?
Anyway rant over we will now resume normal programming
Dec 7th 2011, 1:42 pm
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Re: If you could do it all over again....
What does the one have to do with the other?
Dec 7th 2011, 1:46 pm
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Re: If you could do it all over again....
For those of you that dislike or hate it here there are several well equipped International airports here in Canada that fly daily to the UK.
Dont give us that crap about I cant afford to move back, but my kids are in school, Ive no job to go back to etc etc
What made you move away from the UK in the 1st place if its so much better to begin with?
The vast majority of you applied to come here Canada didnt ask you to come.
If Ive offended anyone well tough luck its not all about YOU.
If Canada is that bad then DO something about it or go home.
I am sick of the well its my right, Im entitled, the Govt owes me type of attitutude from this generation in all countries. Exactly what does the Govt owe you or what are you entitled to?
Anyway rant over we will now resume normal programming
Dont give us that crap about I cant afford to move back, but my kids are in school, Ive no job to go back to etc etc
What made you move away from the UK in the 1st place if its so much better to begin with?
The vast majority of you applied to come here Canada didnt ask you to come.
If Ive offended anyone well tough luck its not all about YOU.
If Canada is that bad then DO something about it or go home.
I am sick of the well its my right, Im entitled, the Govt owes me type of attitutude from this generation in all countries. Exactly what does the Govt owe you or what are you entitled to?
Anyway rant over we will now resume normal programming
It's not always as easy as you seem to think it is. Many have adult children/grandchildren and are torn between wanting to return to the UK and not wanting to leave them behind, many spent their life savings on moving to whichever country they are living in and now cannot afford the tens of thousands of moving back, many are married to a Canadian (or Australian, or American, or.......etc) and their spouse would be equally unhappy in the UK, so they just deal with it as best they can knowing that the only other option is divorce.
If you really think it's as easy as you make out, then your lack of empathy astounds me.
Dec 7th 2011, 1:51 pm
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Re: If you could do it all over again....
The voice emanating from my tin foil hat and the light sockets is telling to post the following
For those who like it here in Canada well carry on and make the best of it.
For those of you who are undecided then you might need a bit more time before choosing the above suggestion or the below
For those of you that dislike or hate it here there are several well equipped International airports here in Canada that fly daily to the UK.
Dont give us that crap about I cant afford to move back, but my kids are in school, Ive no job to go back to etc etc
What made you move away from the UK in the 1st place if its so much better to begin with?
The vast majority of you applied to come here Canada didnt ask you to come.
If Ive offended anyone well tough luck its not all about YOU.
If Canada is that bad then DO something about it or go home.
I am sick of the well its my right, Im entitled, the Govt owes me type of attitutude from this generation in all countries. Exactly what does the Govt owe you or what are you entitled to?
Anyway rant over we will now resume normal programming
For those who like it here in Canada well carry on and make the best of it.
For those of you who are undecided then you might need a bit more time before choosing the above suggestion or the below
For those of you that dislike or hate it here there are several well equipped International airports here in Canada that fly daily to the UK.
Dont give us that crap about I cant afford to move back, but my kids are in school, Ive no job to go back to etc etc
What made you move away from the UK in the 1st place if its so much better to begin with?
The vast majority of you applied to come here Canada didnt ask you to come.
If Ive offended anyone well tough luck its not all about YOU.
If Canada is that bad then DO something about it or go home.
I am sick of the well its my right, Im entitled, the Govt owes me type of attitutude from this generation in all countries. Exactly what does the Govt owe you or what are you entitled to?
Anyway rant over we will now resume normal programming
You have no idea what people are going through or know nothing of their lives so...
Dec 7th 2011, 2:10 pm
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Re: If you could do it all over again....
Charming. I'd suggest you read the Moving Back to the UK forum to see why people get stuck and are genuinely unable to move back from whichever country they are in, despite desperately wanting to in many cases.
It's not always as easy as you seem to think it is. Many have adult children/grandchildren and are torn between wanting to return to the UK and not wanting to leave them behind, many spent their life savings on moving to whichever country they are living in and now cannot afford the tens of thousands of moving back, many are married to a Canadian (or Australian, or American, or.......etc) and their spouse would be equally unhappy in the UK, so they just deal with it as best they can knowing that the only other option is divorce.
If you really think it's as easy as you make out, then your lack of empathy astounds me.
It's not always as easy as you seem to think it is. Many have adult children/grandchildren and are torn between wanting to return to the UK and not wanting to leave them behind, many spent their life savings on moving to whichever country they are living in and now cannot afford the tens of thousands of moving back, many are married to a Canadian (or Australian, or American, or.......etc) and their spouse would be equally unhappy in the UK, so they just deal with it as best they can knowing that the only other option is divorce.
If you really think it's as easy as you make out, then your lack of empathy astounds me.
Sorry where did I say it was easy?
Torn yes I agree but they made the decision so was it all about them?
I said the vast majority not all, thats why I left out the married situations.
Isnt the divorce rate/marriage rate about 50/50 these days
Lack of empathy? really and you assume this how?
I see on a daily basis refugees picked and sponsored by the Canadian Govt who arrive here from war torn countries or have faced inhumane treatment and have been forced to flee their own country.
I see people moving to Canada from all over the world via the various routes PNP, spousal sponsorship etc etc who are grateful to have been given that chance to come here and are excited.
Maybe I might come across to some as the hard assed BSO with no empathy, no common sense, by the rule type of guy etc etc but I will challenge you to do my job for 22 years and see if your attitude and outlook might change and might conflict with others on sites like this.
I have my opinion you have yours Im not saying Im right Im not saying you are wrong just a difference of opinion between 2 internet profiles.